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Posted
8 hours ago, High Jetter said:

That's wrong.  A coupe maybe, not a 2dr saloon, surely?

Not a coupe.  Wheelbase and height are the same for 2 and 4 door so the 2 door is not cut-down in any way.

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5 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Not a coupe.  Wheelbase and height are the same for 2 and 4 door so the 2 door is not cut-down in any way.

Amen. When i’m President my first decree shall be that anyone (including marketing people at car companies) referring to a two-door saloon as a coupe will be placed on a register and forced to wear a metre tall, luminous yellow dunce cone on their stupid fucking head whenever they are in public. They will be barred from taking paid employment and / or receiving any form of state or charitable aid. 
 

Similar sanctions will be placed upon anyone referring to an estate car as a shooting brake or a longroof. In the latter case, they will also be required to shave their hair off and have the word CUNT tattooed on their stupid fucking head in case their dunce hat falls off. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, Rod/b said:

Amen. When i’m President my first decree shall be that anyone (including marketing people at car companies) referring to a two-door saloon as a coupe will be placed on a register and forced to wear a metre tall, luminous yellow dunce cone on their stupid fucking head whenever they are in public. They will be barred from taking paid employment and / or receiving any form of state or charitable aid. 
 

Similar sanctions will be placed upon anyone referring to an estate car as a shooting brake or a longroof. In the latter case, they will also be required to shave their hair off and have the word CUNT tattooed on their stupid fucking head in case their dunce hat falls off. 

Ah, and what will we do with the people who come up with four-door suv "coupes"?

Posted
1 hour ago, Rod/b said:

Similar sanctions will be placed upon anyone referring to an estate car as a shooting brake or a longroof. In the latter case, they will also be required to shave their hair off and have the word CUNT tattooed on their stupid fucking head in case their dunce hat falls off. 

Surely calling it an estate car is just as disingenuous?

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2 hours ago, Rod/b said:

Amen. When i’m President my first decree shall be that anyone (including marketing people at car companies) referring to a two-door saloon as a coupe will be placed on a register and forced to wear a metre tall, luminous yellow dunce cone on their stupid fucking head whenever they are in public. They will be barred from taking paid employment and / or receiving any form of state or charitable aid. 
 

Similar sanctions will be placed upon anyone referring to an estate car as a shooting brake or a longroof. In the latter case, they will also be required to shave their hair off and have the word CUNT tattooed on their stupid fucking head in case their dunce hat falls off. 

Whilst I agree with your comments on calling a 2 door a Coupe and worse still an estate a longroof,  I take issue with your comment on shooting brakes.  Especially as I have one in my custody. Cortina’s, Granada’s, Volvo’s and Mercedes are all estates, no question in my view but old coach built vehicles were marketed as shooting brakes so that is what they are. This does lead into a grey area where poncey manufacturers have started giving their cars silly names such a ‘Touring’  and worse still ‘Sports Wagon’ but in general I believe that the original sales brochure is the Bible in these matters, A 5 series BMW Touring though is still an estate to me 😀

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1 hour ago, Shite Ron said:

Whilst I agree with your comments on calling a 2 door a Coupe and worse still an estate a longroof,  I take issue with your comment on shooting brakes.  Especially as I have one in my custody. Cortina’s, Granada’s, Volvo’s and Mercedes are all estates, no question in my view but old coach built vehicles were marketed as shooting brakes so that is what they are. This does lead into a grey area where poncey manufacturers have started giving their cars silly names such a ‘Touring’  and worse still ‘Sports Wagon’ but in general I believe that the original sales brochure is the Bible in these matters, A 5 series BMW Touring though is still an estate to me 😀

Totally agree with this, apart from the Touring bit. We've got one 😉.  To be fair, BMW have called them Touring for years so it's not just to appeal to the large earring and tattoo brigade. 

Where the hell did 'longroof' come from though? 

Posted
42 minutes ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Where the hell did 'longroof' come from though? 

VW estates were Longroofs in the 60s, but I think only in America. I'm sure you can join the dots from 'VW' to 'Overused, annoying, unsophisticated' etc

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Posted
4 minutes ago, barrett said:

VW estates were Longroofs in the 60s, but I think only in America. I'm sure you can join the dots from 'VW' to 'Overused, annoying, unsophisticated' etc

I’m absolutely with you on the second part of that, but the VW estate in the ‘60s was called the Station Wagon, or Wagon.  The others were Fastback and Squareback, sometimes Notchback.

In the UK they were called the Variant, in case I can delude myself into believing you were interested 😀

Posted
3 minutes ago, garethj said:

I’m absolutely with you on the second part of that, but the VW estate in the ‘60s was called the Station Wagon, or Wagon.  The others were Fastback and Squareback, sometimes Notchback.

In the UK they were called the Variant, in case I can delude myself into believing you were interested 😀

oh yeah, I was thinking of Squareback. Squareback was the wagon, Notchback was the saloon. Did they really sell it as a 'Wagon' as well or is that just colloquial?

Dunno wtf I'm talking about Longroof then, that's just a general American colloquial word for station wagon. Please feel free to ignore anything else I say in future, I'm clearly just talking shit most of the time. (apart from the bit about Squareback being the estate)

Posted
1 minute ago, barrett said:

oh yeah, I was thinking of Squareback. Squareback was the wagon, Notchback was the saloon. Did they really sell it as a 'Wagon' as well or is that just colloquial?

I’m sure it’s called Wagon in some of the advertising but their advertising agency, Doyle Dane Bernbach, had a pretty relaxed style.

Posted
5 hours ago, Rod/b said:

Similar sanctions will be placed upon anyone referring to an estate car as a shooting brake or a longroof

Is the term ”wagon" permissable 🤔...

On a Datsun 100a !!!!

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I'd love to see that wing repaired , thin air welding ltd should be able to get it done 

The ad says imagine this rolling out of the workshop in 2023 full restored ,2033 more like 

1966 Fiat 

It's on eBay for £4750 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, mitsisigma01 said:

Is the term ”wagon" permissable 🤔...

On a Datsun 100a !!!!

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That 100a should be fully entitled to be called whatever it likes. Just look at it! 😎

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Posted

My old Škoda brochures call the Favorit and Felicia estates a Combi. That's never seemed to catch on over here.  We get lots of Americanisms but very few Europeanisms. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Yoss said:

My old skoda brochures call the Favorit and Felicia estates a Combi.  That's never seemed to catch on over here.  We get lots of Americanisms but very few Europeanisms. 

The Mk1 Fabia (and I believe others too) were called the Combi in the 05 Brochure I have. The Fabia saloon (oh what a charming in an ugly sort of way thing that was) was referred to as the 'sedan'. The latter being something I'd associate as an 'Americanism'. :)

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