eBay tat volume 3.

[SiC]

52 minutes ago, SteersWithThrottle said:

Aside from the fact that (as usual) it's still registered as a 1.1, afaik it's not legal to drive a twin engine car on public roads, unless they connect to a common transmission or somesuch.

The Volvo XC90 that is currently for sale would be illegal if that's true:

"Volvo's Twin Engine combines an internal combustion engine that drives the front wheels with an electric motor that drives the rear wheels."

"Depending on the driver-selected drive mode and available electric energy, the two drive systems can be used either individually or in parallel."

https://www.volvocars.com/lb/support/manuals/xc90-twin-engine/2018w46/hybrid-information/hybrid-information/drive-systems

[AlsoMike]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164582229344

 

[lesapandre]

18 minutes ago, AlsoMike said:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164582229344

 

A Lincoln continental. 

[Surface Rust]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/The-Growler-Talbot-express-Camper-van-1985-spare-or-repair-Barn-find-/264976955228?_trksid=p2349624.m46890.l49292

Too many jokes.....

 

[willswitchengage]

14 hours ago, somewhatfoolish said:

Malaysia's finest tintop. 500 BINs, Batley.

 

I tried to buy that a few years ago from its previous owner, mainly because of its sick bodykit. IIRC it was actually in excellent condition then.

[scdan4]

Terribly photographed Reno 25 

Car looks good bar the wheels. Possible  whiff of scam, spider senses tingling

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/284115841450

[SteersWithThrottle]

4 hours ago, spartacus said:

Really, what law covers that?

Serious question. As noted above there were one or two magazine feature cars with twin engines.

It's a difficult question as well as a serious one. If you want to try and wade through the Construction and Use Regulations 2017, be my guest. Prepare lots of coffee, and take lots of notes...

The condensed version is, any vehicle like this will have to pass SVA to be legally used on the road. The V5 will have to reflect this. With this done, you can then get valid insurance.

The vehicle shown is registered as a 1.1 and therefore has not been through the SVA process, and cannot be legally driven on public roads, as apart from anything else the insurance wouldn't be valid.

 

4 hours ago, SiC said:

The Volvo XC90 that is currently for sale would be illegal if that's true:

"Volvo's Twin Engine combines an internal combustion engine that drives the front wheels with an electric motor that drives the rear wheels."

"Depending on the driver-selected drive mode and available electric energy, the two drive systems can be used either individually or in parallel."

https://www.volvocars.com/lb/support/manuals/xc90-twin-engine/2018w46/hybrid-information/hybrid-information/drive-systems

Yes, proving the regs are indeed complex. I imagine the type approval regime that Ford/Volvo had to go through to get this rubber stamped is somewhat more rigorous than an SVA inspection.

If your XC90 goes all skynet and kills you/third parties then Ford/Volvo will ultimately be liable, if it's a system failure.

If your home-made and unapproved Franken-Citroen decides that one engine needs to be in first gear and the other in reverse, ripping the car in half and killing/injuring/embarrassing you/third parties, you'll be the one residing at Her Majesty's pleasure. Assuming you survive.

[SiC]

Yes, proving the regs are indeed complex. I imagine the type approval regime that Ford/Volvo had to go through to get this rubber stamped is somewhat more rigorous than an SVA inspection.
If your XC90 goes all skynet and kills you/third parties then Ford/Volvo will ultimately be liable, if it's a system failure.
If your home-made and unapproved Franken-Citroen decides that one engine needs to be in first gear and the other in reverse, ripping the car in half and killing/injuring/embarrassing you/third parties, you'll be the one residing at Her Majesty's pleasure. Assuming you survive.

None of what you have said backs up your point that a twin engined vehicle driving different axles is illegal and/or against C&U Regs? All you've said is read the regs...

If you're going to make a statement as fact, you have to back it up. Otherwise it's pure speculation.

[egg]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/316804802855213

[bezzabsa]

3 minutes ago, egg said:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/316804802855213

OOF.....this is why i need a garage.....and money, lots of money!!

[eddyramrod]

You and me both!  But not that one.  It claims to be a 1961 but only the front half fits that.  The fins, lights and bumper at the back are all 57-60.  Also, that LPG tank sits where the petrol tank should, so where is the petrol tank now?

[SteersWithThrottle]

34 minutes ago, SiC said:

None of what you have said backs up your point that a twin engined vehicle driving different axles is illegal and/or against C&U Regs? All you've said is read the regs...

If you're going to make a statement as fact, you have to back it up. Otherwise it's pure speculation.

I'm saying that particular vehicle isn't road legal.

[SiC]

22 minutes ago, SteersWithThrottle said:

I'm saying that particular vehicle isn't road legal.

No you didn't. You said...

6 hours ago, SteersWithThrottle said:

afaik it's not legal to drive a twin engine car on public roads, unless they connect to a common transmission or somesuch.

I've just read through the latest IVA manual and C&U Regs 1986 with subsequent revisions right to 2020. I see zero mention on twin engine, multiple power sources and/or which axles can or can not be powered. Also I see nothing that would even be close to a twin engine vehicle being a problem.

Feel to prove me wrong with hard evidence either with the regs or any court decisions. 

[Mr_Bo11ox]

There's nothing intrinsically illegal about having 2 engines. Obviously the law might have something to say about a badly built dangerous car or one whose insurance is not valid, but those are different problems from simply having 2 separate engines.

[Cavcraft]

Nissan Prairie | eBay

[Cavcraft]

Hats off to anyone who builds a twin engined car and sees it through to the end. Most of the twin or rear engine 'conversions' seem to consist of an advert saying 'all the hard work has been done.' The 'hard work' consisting of borrowing an engine hoist and literally dropping some rusty old boat anchor into the hole.

[spartacus]

11 minutes ago, Cavcraft said:

Hats off to anyone who builds a twin engined car and sees it through to the end. Most of the twin or rear engine 'conversions' seem to consist of and advert saying 'all the hard work has been done.' The 'hard work' consisting of borrowing an engine hoist and literally dropping some rusty old boat anchor into the hole.

To be fair, there was a lot of that bitd.

I can see the point re. the SVA or whatever it is these days with regards to that particular vehicle but I'm quite sure that there's a way in which you could build a car with two engines and gearboxes and drive it on UK roads legally.

ETA, what a pleasure to have a 'pub' type discussion with fellow enthusiasts without it turning into a slagging match. That's why I like this place.

 

[Cavcraft]

These never seem to fetch much money, they seem to have all the appeal of one of those Golden Crumpet Badger Illustrious Teaspoon 125cc scooters that are rusting away in your neighbour's garden.

 

 

Velocette LE Mk3 1961 200cc vintage British classic | eBay

 

*Watch lists.

[egg]

Like Rover R8's, I wonder if we will ever run out of K11 Micras?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/837750010391691

[Mr Laurence]

Just now, egg said:

Like Rover R8's, I wonder if we will ever run out of K11 Micras?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/837750010391691

I hope we never run out of either! A 1.0 auto can’t be very fast though

[egg]

On 14/12/2020 at 09:28, Yoss said:

So approach with caution but it still seems a pretty good price. Good ones are going around the £6k mark at the moment. Pre face-lift too so it has the better interior. The seats aren't real leather but after 55 years that's not a bad thing, they're nice seats. And it has the white dials so another plus. Strange paint effect around the front arches suggests work there so study carefully (the front arches are double skinned so you can't get to the back of them). Would still consider that if I was looking for another one. Especially when things like this are going on:

Couple more pics added of the one in  Margate, it is one colour...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/870697967048230/

[egg]

Very 90's looking Chevette.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1101840163583694/?ref=search&referral_code=undefined

[sheffcortinacentre]

Far as I know at one time it was often said only one engine could be running  ( but I don't think there's an actual law your breaking having both powering a vehicle simultaneously) ergo  what about the several twini mokes & minis built by BMC?

[DSdriver]

1 hour ago, sheffcortinacentre said:

Far as I know at one time it was often said only one engine could be running  ( but I don't think there's an actual law your breaking having both powering a vehicle simultaneously) ergo  what about the several twini mokes & minis built by BMC?

Citroen made a 2CV with 2 engines, they can be identified by the fuel filler half way along the nearside as the fuel tank was under the front seats. Just don't drop your Gauloises whilst driving!

Somebody more knowledgeable than I will be along shortly to tell us what they were called.

[loserone]

@task's mate just bought one, and he should really sign up here!

[Mr Laurence]

15 minutes ago, DSdriver said:

Citroen made a 2CV with 2 engines, they can be identified by the fuel filler half way along the nearside as the fuel tank was under the front seats. Just don't drop your Gauloises whilst driving!

Somebody more knowledgeable than I will be along shortly to tell us what they were called.

The Sahara?

[petermcpete]

29 minutes ago, Mr Laurence said:

The Sahara?

That's the one, bloody expensive now though!

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-4379810/Twin-engine-Citroen-2CV-Sahara-sells-68-000.html

 

[17-Coffees]

I'm in love*...

Low mileage slush box, epic colour and interior is just oh so 'offt'. Add in the price of just £690. 
Mhmmm Yes please!

https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/10913329?cId=10846677&cId=10957912&cId=10683950&cId=10158394&cId=10995524&cId=11053772&cId=11086908&cId=10690040&cId=11039490&cId=10931277&cId=11070691&cId=10977640&cId=11046874&cId=11103554&cId=11039918&cId=11064436&cId=10913329&cId=10762098&cId=11071844&cId=10596769

[wuvvum]

This plonker is still going, selling cheap chod, must be on about his 17th account by now.  Still as racist as ever and his feedback is a sight to behold - I'm tempted to bid on one of his cars and then not turn up, just to see if I can get him to call me a "tossar".

[Jamie]

1 minute ago, wuvvum said:

This plonker is still going, selling cheap chod, must be on about his 17th account by now.  Still as racist as ever and his feedback is a sight to behold - I'm tempted to bid on one of his cars and then not turn up, just to see if I can get him to call me a "tossar".

 

or a dossar