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[Skizzer]

A friend at work has a 2008-ish Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel of some sort that she uses to tow a horse around. It is very reluctant to start if it's any kind of chilly of a morning, and she and her local backstreet garage are struggling to work out why.

 

I thought battery, but they've tested that and reported it healthy. Someone suggested blocked EGR valve, but that's a post-1986 thing I don't know about. Any ideas? I don't understand diesels so I'm not much help.

[Skizzer]

(And before you ask, no, I don't have any pictures of her.)

[Guest Hooli]

Glowplugs would be were I'd start

[bub2006]

(And before you ask, no, I don't have any pictures of her.)

Do you take us for a bunch of pervs?

[Guest Hooli]

You mean you lot aren't pervs?

[bub2006]

No comment

[Skizzer]

Do you take us for a bunch of pervs?

Yup. Not entirely excluding myself from that, mind.

[cort16]

If she's into horses maybe her plugs are foaled.

[bub2006]

You are one of us squire. We all have our vices. Mine is shonky vans and hairy women

[Skizzer]

Glow plugs a good suggestion but Anna says...

 

Glow plugs (already replaced)

Battery (already replaced)

Fuel injectors (already reconditioned)

Fuel pump (already replaced)

Head gasket (absolutely no appetite to persist if this goes)

 

She's reduced to looking at disposable Freelander 1s on Autotrader, poor lass.

 

Glow plug relay maybe? Is that a thing?

[Honey Badger]

Glow plugs a good suggestion but Anna says...

 

 

She's reduced to looking at disposable Freelander 1s on Autotrader, poor lass.

 

Glow plug relay maybe? Is that a thing?

 

Could it be the Fuel filter, cold mornings would increase the viscosity of the diesel and all the crud inside the filter, might be worth a punt.

[DeeJay]

Every fault normally ends up being a dodgy Earth.

[scaryoldcortina]

^ or an air leak into the diesel feed....

[fraser.innes.3]

No, they're just fucktards. HTH.

 

It IS however a serious pain in the arse to change headlight bulbs on them!

Got it down to a fine art. 5 minutes offside, 10 minutes nearside😊

 

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[DeeJay]

Got it down to a fine art. 5 minutes offside, 10 minutes nearside

 

 

You don't work for Halfords AICMFP.

[KruJoe]

Blimey, Anna has sploshed some dosh on this already!

 

Glow plug relay maybe? Is that a thing?

 

Deffo a thing.

And the rest of the glow plug circuit wants checking while she's at it.

It'll be worth pulling the "new" glow plugs and checking them again. From experience, cheap ones can fail within hours of fitting, even if there's no other fault in the system (though a bad relay can kill 'em).

[twosmoke300]

On a di diesel poor starting is more likely to be a fuel problem than glow plugs . They don't rely on them very much at all .

Egr stuck open and cam sensor faults also possible .

[Skizzer]

Thanks a lot for the suggestions gents, I shall pass them on.

 

Blimey, Anna has sploshed some dosh on this already!

She has rather, and is pretty fed up with it now. Could have bought a working Disco 300TDI with what she's spent on this over the last year or so, not counting depreciation. All modernz etc...

[dave21478]

Were the injectors fully reconditioned? They do like to fail on the Santa Fe.

I second the thought above that its less likely glow plugs and more likely fuel problems. these engines should start in the cold even without glowplugs at all.

Is the electric fuel pump working ok and priming the system when the ignition goes on?

[Rave]

Do you take us for a bunch of pervs?

 

Congratulations, you win the stupid questions thread!

[scdan4]

Have managed to narrow the search down to a citroen belingo multispace or peugeot partner combi. (i think they are exactly the same)

 

I know a little about these: Avoid the 1.6hdi like the plague, 2 litre hdi good. 1.9 worthy but slow?

 

How are the petrols? What else do i need to look for? Rear beam on someones has featured on these pages recently - how do i check that?

 

There seems to be plenty of choice for about 1200 quid tho and they all look suitable enough for reliable practical distressed damselmobile

[hairnet]

Liverpool airport:

 

seeing as the car park places cant tell the difference between 2 wheels and four

 

can i skip the barrier at the multistorey and ride in

 

how pissed off will they get if i chain the bike to a lampost across from the terminal

[scaryoldcortina]

What happened to the thread title?

 

I wouldn't normally ask, but it is the stupid question thread....

[Cavcraft]

Back to normal now!

[xtriple]

Why do I panic about the health and welfare of my cars in the garage when I haven't seen them for a few days? Even though they are covered, dry, batteries off and as cared for as I can manage, I still imagine them to be festering piles of rust within a few days of my last visit. Drives me crazy!

 

Also, why have various threads suddenly started taking me back to the first page instead of page 400 or whatever?

[KruJoe]

why have various threads started taking me back to the first page

 ...instead of the first un-read post?

 

Me too, only noticed this thread doing it.

[Richard]

It happened on this thread because it had a brief change of name yesterday I think.

[Asimo]

Liverpool airport:

 

how pissed off will they get if i chain the bike to a lampost across from the terminal

Don't do that.

"Security" would treat it as a suspicious package and they're always looking for an excuse for some excitement of the "destroyed in a controlled explosion" sort......

[Cavcraft]

What happened to the thread title?

 

I wouldn't normally ask, but it is the stupid question thread....

 

It's because to try and tidy things up, I added 'new thread' questions to this thread. Then have to 'merge' threads and re-use the old title sometimes, bit  of a ball ache and doesn't always work. Ditto the eBay tat thread.

 

 

 

 

 

 

My question:

 

How good (or otherwise) are these

 

 

 

...and these....

 

 

?

 

 

Obvs the battery powered one would be too dodgy to use with petrol though. My real questions relates to whether I could get the hose into thee tank on modern cars as I assume they have anti-syphon devices? Appreciate I could get to an underseat tank fairly easily but I'm lazy and would rather drain from the fuel filler neck.

[oldcars]

A friend at work has a 2008-ish Hyundai Santa Fe Diesel of some sort that she uses to tow a horse around. It is very reluctant to start if it's any kind of chilly of a morning, and she and her local backstreet garage are struggling to work out why.

 

I thought battery, but they've tested that and reported it healthy. Someone suggested blocked EGR valve, but that's a post-1986 thing I don't know about. Any ideas? I don't understand diesels so I'm not much help.

I had a 54 plate one that went boom. Sounds like glowplugs, was the rearmost one on mine that then snapped in the head. Lucky me, that motor was a money pit.