invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[auntiemaryscanary]

  On 09/08/2023 at 21:04, chancer said:

You ok if i send this screenshot to the local constabulary?

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You'd be doing all of us a favour.

[JJ0063]

  On 09/08/2023 at 14:39, brummiejon said:

Simon and I are still having trouble registering RDE 346

no evidence, no registration 

im using Flo anyway, I know it’s illegal but I don’t care, lock me up and throw away the key….  My main concern is that I can’t get insurance which is not fair on the third parties….. I drive carefully and slowly 

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Guarantee you’d have something to say if a local youth bought something they couldn’t insure and said they’re just going to drive it anyway because they drive slowly and carefully. 
 

Also guarantee you’d have something to say if you or your family were hit by someone driving any type of vehicle and they had no insurance. 

[JJ0063]

  On 09/08/2023 at 19:22, red5 said:

You're joking of course...?

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Would appear not looking at the last page of this thread

[chancer]

  On 09/08/2023 at 00:23, LightBulbFun said:

Ok now the DVLA have made it personal!

at least it gives me a properly valid reason to call them about this issue now...

I just hope I can get through to someone sensiable about it, the DVLA does not exactly have an IT department hot line sadly, (I dont think?)

 

compared to before, which is how it should be

 

of of all the manufacturers coded into the DVLA computer why is it Invacar they have to fuck up... (after also originally fucking up AC into AC (ELECTRIC) back in the late 80s)

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Sounds like it would be easier just to accept its an Invacare now. Better brand with superior build quality. If the DVLA done similar with my Dacia and renamed it a Bentley Duster i'd be delighted

[RoverFolkUs]

  On 09/08/2023 at 14:39, brummiejon said:

Simon and I are still having trouble registering RDE 346

no evidence, no registration 

im using Flo anyway, I know it’s illegal but I don’t care, lock me up and throw away the key….  My main concern is that I can’t get insurance which is not fair on the third parties….. I drive carefully and slowly 

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🤔

Driving an unregistered vehicle without the tax/MOT exemptions in place, without 3rd party cover, dare I wonder if you even have a license 😬

[chancer]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:22, brummiejon said:

Ooof @LightBulbFungood luck with this lot

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The boy is fine. He cant drive his while its still in having work done. You, on the other hand, think you are above the law. If you cant see how this causes annoyance then you must be as thick as pigs shit. Only takes a toddler to run out in front of that death trap, and the helmet in a helmet cant see them....and theres you without insurance. Engage yer brain, if ye have one

[chancer]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:29, brummiejon said:

No, RDE 346 was first registered in 1953 by Florence (Flo) Day MBE…. The DVLA is trying to erase history and I’m fighting them all the way… Meanwhile, I refuse to be housebound.

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Please let me know the date and time you expect to say that in court. I'll be there to witness the laughter....

Can i suggest if you are able to drive and steer that thing......

[JJ0063]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:29, brummiejon said:

 Meanwhile, I refuse to be housebound.

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Are you genuinely trying to pull that one as your excuse?

Blaming DVLA for the fact you have no choice but to drive a vehicle with no tax, not registered as MOT exempt, no insurance and not displaying registration plates? 
 

I don’t think even LBF will take your side on this one..

[JJ0063]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:36, brummiejon said:

it’s a carnival float with Marshall’s everywhere….. These roads are closed off to traffic….

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So you had PLI then? What would you have done if your float* front wheel clipped the legs of the people you were following because your vision was impaired because of your helmet*?
 

 

[chancer]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:36, brummiejon said:

Hilarious…. Engage yours, the brakes work perfectly, it’s max speed is about 10miles per hour and in case you hadn’t noticed, it’s a carnival float with Marshall’s everywhere….. These roads are closed off to traffic….
I’m so glad you’re riled by me… you want to be mindful of  your blood pressure….

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10mph can kill a child. Your posts suggest that if the DVLA wont register it you will use it nonetheless. My blood pressure is just fine thanks. I was awaiting your response before considering mine. I suggest you consider carefully what you post on a public forum from now on

[warren t claim]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:42, chancer said:

10mph can kill a child. Your posts suggest that if the DVLA wont register it you will use it nonetheless. My blood pressure is just fine thanks. I was awaiting your response before considering mine. I suggest you consider carefully what you post on a public forum from now on

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Seven thousand three hundred pound a year are my annual insurance costs.

Why do I bother?

[petermcpete]

I've seen some dumb shit on here but boasting about breaking the law, posting pictorial evidence to prove it and then continually providing more details in an attempt to justify it is a new low.

Nice one @brummiejon🤣🤣🤣

[Christine]

I see a backlash from dvla coming soon ....?

[warren t claim]

  On 09/08/2023 at 23:34, petermcpete said:

I've seen some dumb shit on here but boasting about breaking the law, posting pictorial evidence to prove it and then continually providing more details in an attempt to justify it is a new low.

Nice one @brummiejon🤣🤣🤣

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It's not as if classic and specialist vehicles are expensive to insure either!

[chancer]

Lots of 'evidence' going missing here...... @brummiejon i took the privilege of some screenshots

[Mrcento]

  On 09/08/2023 at 22:21, RoverFolkUs said:

🤔

Driving an unregistered vehicle without the tax/MOT exemptions in place, without 3rd party cover, dare I wonder if you even have a license 😬

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I mean, when you're that deep in a hole of being completely fucked if you get caught, He's pretty much at the point where even if he did have a license, He wouldn't for long, especially if they look over the 'unroadworthy' vehicle and start finding any issues to accumulate bonus points.

[somewhatfoolish]

Notwithstanding that boasting about it is foolhardy, he's not exactly the first or worst offender at self incrimination here or on other forums. There but for the grace of FSM go I.

[petermcpete]

  On 10/08/2023 at 05:27, somewhatfoolish said:

Notwithstanding that boasting about it is foolhardy, he's not exactly the first or worst offender at self incrimination here or on other forums. There but for the grace of FSM go I.

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The John o'Groats to Lands End run in less than 10 hours that that fella posted about about on Pistonheads was a pretty interesting case

https://www.itv.com/news/westcountry/2020-12-04/man-who-boasted-of-record-breaking-journey-from-john-ogroats-to-lands-end-is-cleared-of-dangerous-driving

 

[timolloyd]

Now that would be something, in an Invacare!

[High Jetter]

I can appreciate your frustration, @brummiejon, at not being able to get 'Flo' registered and so risking driving her, albeit carefully, on the public roads. However, I'd also be concerned about the fact that if the rozzers do get wind you have no insurance whilst driving, 'Flo' can be seized and crushed. Is that really worth the risk, nevermind anything else?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see her out and about, but legally.

[brummiejon]

  On 10/08/2023 at 08:31, High Jetter said:

I can appreciate your frustration, @brummiejon, at not being able to get 'Flo' registered and so risking driving her, albeit carefully, on the public roads. However, I'd also be concerned about the fact that if the rozzers do get wind you have no insurance whilst driving, 'Flo' can be seized and crushed. Is that really worth the risk, nevermind anything else?

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see her out and about, but legally.

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I’ve decided to take everybody’s views and go back to riding my electric bicycle that will do 30miles per hour, has woefully inadequate brakes and frighteningly quick acceleration but doesn’t need tax, mot or insurance and is just as much capable of “killing a child” but it’s legal and will keep you all happy… 

[M'coli]

An unregistered electric bike that can do 30mph by electric power alone is also illegal, you ignorant cunt.

[brummiejon]

  On 10/08/2023 at 09:07, M'coli said:

An unregistered electric bike that can do 30mph by electric power alone is also illegal, you ignorant cunt.

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I’ll mention that to the shop I bought it from and the manufacturer. Thanks for the Trolling 

[somewhatfoolish]

"Aaand the Gerald Ratner award for self-inflicted wounds goes to brummiejon."

[Sham]

https://www.gov.uk/electric-bike-rules

 

If the electric motor is more than 250w, or it can be powered electrically at more than 15.5mph, or it can be propelled without pedalling (a throttle control of some kind), then what you have there is a motorcycle and it must be registered as such, and taxed/Mot'd/Insured as such, and you must have the appropriate license for it to use it on the road. Its probably a moped, legally speaking - but might be an A1 motorcycle.

Like electric scooters, the shop can sell it perfectly legally but you ,absolutely, cannot ride it legally on the road without all of the above being in place.

 

Obey the law, like everyone else has to. Arsehole.

[JJ0063]

  On 10/08/2023 at 08:52, brummiejon said:

I’ve decided to take everybody’s views and go back to riding my electric bicycle that will do 30miles per hour, has woefully inadequate brakes and frighteningly quick acceleration but doesn’t need tax, mot or insurance and is just as much capable of “killing a child” but it’s legal and will keep you all happy… 

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Why? Not 24hrs ago you didn’t care and said lock you up and throw away the key? 
 

Own it, you thought people would back you up but it flopped so you deleted your posts.

[Agila]

  On 10/08/2023 at 08:52, brummiejon said:

I’ve decided to take everybody’s views and go back to riding my electric bicycle that will do 30miles per hour, has woefully inadequate brakes and frighteningly quick acceleration but doesn’t need tax, mot or insurance and is just as much capable of “killing a child” but it’s legal and will keep you all happy… 

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  On 10/08/2023 at 09:16, brummiejon said:

I’ll mention that to the shop I bought it from and the manufacturer. Thanks for the Trolling 

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Nothing to add.

[petermcpete]

Which number is higher, BrummieJon's IQ or the Invacar's HP?

[3VOM]

I'm getting BarryBoys deja-vu.

[Dave_Q]

While I agree with the consensus here, I reckon LBF could do without another shitstorm on his thread.

Vaguely related, just back from the Netherlands and saw quite a few ebikes and scooters that were registered as mopeds.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/666204465273539/

As the Dutch have this concept of a Light Moped (<50cc, <25kmh) already it looks like some (far from all) of these electro deathtraps we see on UK streets are registered on a blue moped plate. (Lots of them probably exceed 25kmh but that's the case for the petrol ones too)

I even saw a Trek pedal assist push iron with a yellow ped plate (heavy moped, 45kmh) presumably this is to be legit with a pedal assist speed greater than 25kmh or it has a throttle or something.

The Dutch fuzz do check moped speeds and prohibit pisstakers until their speed limiter is rectified.

We don't have such provisions over here but it just shows it is possible to give a route to register these new types of electric personal transport.