invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[loserone]

My grey Ferguson was £38 a year to insure.  Fucking terrifying at full tilt but the back tyres were square so that's probably not that surprising.  

 

I would probably get the kids one when they're 16, but I'd rather have them in an Ami.

[Eyersey1234]

11 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

ya get a tractor entitlement (along with a couple other ones) when you pass your main car driving test/get a full B licence

 

so for example I can hop into a Grey Fergie and terrorize the mean streets of Hackney right now if I wanted to LOL (if I had a Grey Fergie that is)

If I had the money and the space I'd have a grey Fergie as part of my fleet,  I've no need of it just think it would be cool, though my OH thinks I'm bonkers for wanting one 🤣

[martc]

18 hours ago, egg said:

I've just checked this, but driving tests were paused during WW2, and I think some people who learned to drive in the services never passed an actual civilian driving test as they had it converted to a normal licence after the war. But sources for this are sketchy, so happy to be corrected. This will have no doubt included injured veterans (who were big users of invalid carriages - which makes the nicknames for the vehicles even more insulting to those who lost mobility on active service).

My Grandad drove first a lorry, then an ambulance in the first world war (in Ireland, not on the continent, not his choice, the 'luck' of the draw). He couldn't drive, but was told he was a 'Driver' and consequently must drive. Fortunately his companion knew how to drive, but wasn't an appointed 'Driver' and therefore, being The Army, he wasn't allowed to drive. The person who knew how to drive had to tell my Grandad how to drive from the passenger seat. When he was demobbed they handed him a civilian licence along with the other paperwork. He never drove again.

Driving licences were issued from 1903, but tests were not compulsory until  1/6/1935, with people who took out a licence after 1/4/34 (and this includes us) having to take a test. As you say the requirements for a test were dropped during the second world war but also during the Suez Crisis.

[SiC]

2 hours ago, Eyersey1234 said:

If I had the money and the space I'd have a grey Fergie as part of my fleet,  I've no need of it just think it would be cool, though my OH thinks I'm bonkers for wanting one 🤣

I keep pondering about getting one but I think I'd need a field to have any fun. All well and good being a mobile roadblock on the roads but they're going to be no fun unless playing around in a field with implements! So it'd just end up being a garden ornament.

I suppose you could go green laneing? 😂

[loserone]

I'm glad I had one for a while, and it being the first engine I got running after a decade slumber was satisfying.

I did fairly quickly establish that I have absolutely no use for a tractor. Yes I could get a splitter and a link box etc but I can do everything safer with an axe / french van / etc.

[Jerzy Woking]

I have one, would not be without it now. Saves me hours, as the other option is to keep tye weeds in check is to cut them with a petrol strimmer. Sod doing that ever again.

[LightBulbFun]

2 hours ago, Eyersey1234 said:

If I had the money and the space I'd have a grey Fergie as part of my fleet,  I've no need of it just think it would be cool, though my OH thinks I'm bonkers for wanting one 🤣

16 minutes ago, SiC said:

I keep pondering about getting one but I think I'd need a field to have any fun. All well and good being a mobile roadblock on the roads but they're going to be no fun unless playing around in a field with implements! So it'd just end up being a garden ornament.

I suppose you could go green laneing? 😂

when @loserone had his for sale, I had some very silly thoughts of buying it just for the summer, just for the sheer giggles of having a Tractor parked in the dead end, and pootling around central London in it

I mean its all exempt from the everything, and given most fergies have a top speed measured in the teens, and are the sort of vehicle where you just put it in the gear for the speed you want, rather then attempt to change gear on the fly (correct me if I am wrong there!)

then it would be gr8* for Central London just put it in top gear and pootle away LOL and the thought of that amuses me, here is this country as fuck vehicle, deep in the heart of a major city  

 

like an Autoshite version of those tourist pictures where they pose by all the major land marks and what have you

so that, but with am old Tractor "here I am clagging up the houses of parliament!"  

 

I mean to be fair I plan on doing something like that with REV anyhow  (well with less clag, hopefully!) 

 

[timolloyd]

On 8/14/2023 at 7:17 AM, Mrs6C said:

A post in this thread has been hidden, pending Moderator review.

@Mrs6Cwhat’s happening about this please?

[Eyersey1234]

@LightBulbFun how many different types of blue invalid carriages were issued? Apologies if this has been covered somewhere in the thread before.

[LightBulbFun]

6 minutes ago, Eyersey1234 said:

@LightBulbFun how many different types of blue invalid carriages were issued? Apologies if this has been covered somewhere in the thread before.

thats a bid oddly specific! so am I to specifically exclude stuff like the Barrett Midget and the Vernon invalid cars or Electric Harpers and so forth?

what about ones that where multiple colours, blue and white like some Harpers and Invacars? 

[Remspoor]

@LightBulbFun Not a single person called you to this

4th image down

[LightBulbFun]

23 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

@LightBulbFun Not a single person called you to this

4th image down

yall are slacking!

 

on a more serious note, very cool to see, sadly I am unable to make out a mark

I dug up the original or at least the facebook post the image is from, and its not any better sadly in terms of resolution/clarity

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1530265223670940

[Eyersey1234]

3 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

thats a bid oddly specific! so am I to specifically exclude stuff like the Barrett Midget and the Vernon invalid cars or Electric Harpers and so forth?

what about ones that where multiple colours, blue and white like some Harpers and Invacars? 

Apologies I was under the impression they were all blue,  I'll rephrase the question then. How many different types of vehicle  were used as invalid carriages including the ones you mentioned above?

[AdgeCutler]

Is LBF now compiling a list of some 60 plus vehicles? There were a lot.

[LightBulbFun]

29 minutes ago, Eyersey1234 said:

Apologies I was under the impression they were all blue,  I'll rephrase the question then. How many different types of vehicle  were used as invalid carriages including the ones you mentioned above?

No problems! and apologies if my own response came across a bit blunt, but I meant in good hearted fashion/genuinely not in a provocative way, as I had a feeling that you did not mean to be so specific so thought I would double check its only after posting it did I realise the phraseology of it is often what people use when they want to be provocative, so again apologies on that, if you read my post with a tone of genuine confusion then hopefully it comes across a bit better!  

there were many different invalid vehicles produced!

pictured in the quote below is a list from what just the ministry themselves used, there where also a whole bunch that remained products of the private market, for example Carters and Hardings as well as Solocars, never got ministry contracts (although theres rumour the Ministry did have a couple solocars), and of course the lots of models had different revisions and trim levels, and I do still wonder about the missing numbers, what happened to Model 68 for example! 

On 25/10/2019 at 18:32, LightBulbFun said:

nah I think it was more or less just issued in sequence  

heres a handy guide from the back of stuarts small book

(there are some gaps in the numberings I do wonder what "happened" to those exactly)

a couple additional notes/corrections

the "Electric AC Acedes" is actually just "AC Model 64", it was never officially called an Acedes AFAIK, but it is common to call them such

this book was written before Stuart had seen the Chassis plate of a Model 64

and there was also an AC Acedes Mk14A  (and it turns out  no reference to anything older than an AC Acedes Mk4 has been found, its currently thought that Mk1-3 where versions of the AC All weather Tricycle, but sadly mentioned details on this sort of thing are thin on the ground)

(as an side "how many different types of vehicles where used as invalid carriages" is bit of a contradiction in terms, the very definition of an invalid carriage is a mechanically propelled vehicle built from the ground for use by a disabled person and not just an adapted vehicle, so something is either an invalid carriage, or it is not one if that makes sense)

[Eyersey1234]

17 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

No problems! and apologies if my own response came across a bit blunt, but I meant in good hearted fashion/genuinely not in a provocative way, as I had a feeling that you did not mean to be so specific so thought I would double check its only after posting it did I realise the phraseology of it is often what people use when they want to be provocative, so again apologies on that, if you read my post with a tone of genuine confusion then hopefully it comes across a bit better!  

there were many different invalid vehicles produced!

pictured in the quote below is a list from what just the ministry themselves used, there where also a whole bunch that remained products of the private market, for example Carters and Hardings as well as Solocars, never got ministry contracts (although theres rumour the Ministry did have a couple solocars), and of course the lots of models had different revisions and trim levels, and I do still wonder about the missing numbers, what happened to Model 68 for example! 

(as an side "how many different types of vehicles where used as invalid carriages" is bit of a contradiction in terms, the very definition of an invalid carriage is a mechanically propelled vehicle built from the ground for use by a disabled person and not just an adapted vehicle, so something is either an invalid carriage, or it is not one if that makes sense)

Thanks LBF, not a problem about your response. I hadn't realised there were that many to be honest. 

[sdkrc]

28 minutes ago, AdgeCutler said:

some 60 plus

Now there's a magazine I've not read in a while

[chancer]

8 hours ago, timolloyd said:

@Mrs6Cwhat’s happening about this please?

The square root of fuck all by the looks of it. She is quite the ignorant type it seems. Change of moderation needed in these quarters, and fast, before every decent bit of content dries up. Actually, the damage is already done. Congratulations 👏 

[High Jetter]

1 hour ago, chancer said:

The square root of fuck all by the looks of it. She is quite the ignorant type it seems. Change of moderation needed in these quarters, and fast, before every decent bit of content dries up. Actually, the damage is already done. Congratulations 👏 

Rude

[chancer]

3 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

Rude

Yes, i agree. The lack of response from our moderaror is really quite rude

[High Jetter]

Nah.

[warren t claim]

10 minutes ago, chancer said:

Yes, i agree. The lack of response from our moderaror is really quite rude

 

She doesn't engage with plebs like us. Arrogant and aloof doesn't even begin to describe her. 

For God's sake just go woman. 

[somewhatfoolish]

Take your whiny crayoning to the whiny crayoning thread. Otherwise start posting invalid carriages or shut up.

[High Jetter]

14 minutes ago, warren t claim said:

 

She doesn't engage with plebs like us. Arrogant and aloof doesn't even begin to describe her. 

For God's sake just go woman. 

I really enjoyed you posts over the years, until that. 

[chancer]

Sorry for derailing your thread @LightBulbFun but this entire forum has all gone a bit 'Animal Farm' Our elusive Mrs6C is definately likened to Napoleon. We are all equals, but some are more equal than others

[warren t claim]

[warren t claim]

13 minutes ago, High Jetter said:

I really enjoyed you posts over the years, until that. 

People can't agree all the time. 

[warren t claim]

1 minute ago, warren t claim said:

That pic was taken literally two minutes ago. 

[somewhatfoolish]

Chapeau.

[warren t claim]

22 minutes ago, somewhatfoolish said:

Chapeau.

Chateaux