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1,723 · April 26

I posted about this tiny bus before (can't find my post tho). This video shows it in action with the owners giving some detail on it inc it's 25mph top speed.

A very impressive little thing nevermind their reasons for doing it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/videos/cx2741yjlqgo

3,110 · April 26

Trying to decide what to do with my 2004 S type diesel. I've realised that the brake servo isn't serving as much as it should and that might be the reason for the 'DSC unavailable' warning. Took me ages to find a garage with the right diagnostic software. They quoted 6 hours labour (because it was a horrible job) and whatever Jaguar would charge for a service, master cylinder wtc. I've had a look online and although I doing the bolts to the servo is painful I can source second hand parts for about £150.

The car drives very well with no other issues. There are a couple of things that don't work as is typical for an older car but nothing major; boot unlock button doesn't work on the dash and I think the temp sensor for the climate control isn't working as it shows a high temp when it's not.

The other issue is bodywork as it's starting to go on the front of the rear arch and the front wing. Also, someone kindly scratched one of the rear doors the other day, probably as it was parked outside their house in the street. It's on the drive now.

My insurance runs out on 5th May so decision time. Do I fix the servo and run it u til the next MOT in December? I really like driving this car but I don't really need it as also have a CMax, a MK1 TT, a K11 Micra, and my wife's MG4. I also don't really want to let it go.

The final issue is that no-one wants a slowly rusting old diesel jaguar. I listed it in the for sale section on here and on gumtree. Not a sniff of interest. I've still not removed the sill covers yet to look at the sills. Maybe that will be the decider. If it's not too bad then I'm tempted to 'save' her.

Anyone else been in a similar situation and what did you do? There are other cars I would like to try at some point but that doesn't make it any easier. Would appreciate any advice, condolences, or straight talking.

12,726 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

Trying to decide what to do with my 2004 S type diesel. I've realised that the brake servo isn't serving as much as it should and that might be the reason for the 'DSC unavailable' warning. Took me ages to find a garage with the right diagnostic software. They quoted 6 hours labour (because it was a horrible job) and whatever Jaguar would charge for a service, master cylinder wtc. I've had a look online and although I doing the bolts to the servo is painful I can source second hand parts for about £150.

The car drives very well with no other issues. There are a couple of things that don't work as is typical for an older car but nothing major; boot unlock button doesn't work on the dash and I think the temp sensor for the climate control isn't working as it shows a high temp when it's not.

The other issue is bodywork as it's starting to go on the front of the rear arch and the front wing. Also, someone kindly scratched one of the rear doors the other day, probably as it was parked outside their house in the street. It's on the drive now.

My insurance runs out on 5th May so decision time. Do I fix the servo and run it u til the next MOT in December? I really like driving this car but I don't really need it as also have a CMax, a MK1 TT, a K11 Micra, and my wife's MG4. I also don't really want to let it go.

The final issue is that no-one wants a slowly rusting old diesel jaguar. I listed it in the for sale section on here and on gumtree. Not a sniff of interest. I've still not removed the sill covers yet to look at the sills. Maybe that will be the decider. If it's not too bad then I'm tempted to 'save' her.

Anyone else been in a similar situation and what did you do? There are other cars I would like to try at some point but that doesn't make it any easier. Would appreciate any advice, condolences, or straight talking.

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Is this a 2.7 diesel and Do they fill the servos with oil like the range rovers?

If so have you sucked out any oil via the vacuum ninlet hole?

3,110 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 08:38, Andyrew said:

Is this a 2.7 diesel and Do they fill the servos with oil like the range rovers?

If so have you sucked out any oil via the vacuum ninlet hole?

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It is a 2.7 diesel and the mechanic said that the servo likely had oil in it. I didn't realise it could possibly be drained. I will look into that, thanks!

12,726 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 09:07, stripped fred said:

It is a 2.7 diesel and the mechanic said that the servo likely had oil in it. I didn't realise it could possibly be drained. I will look into that, thanks!

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My friends Range rover sport did this. The pedal progressively got a "wooden" feel to it.

We popped the vacuum pipe out and stuck a cable tie in as a dipstick to find it with about an inch of oil on it. So shoved my oil vacuum extractor in and stucked it out. Which made it work fine. It did fill up again over time and we repeated the occasional vac out but it was a "temp" fix to while he was fighting with land rover to warranty it, they didn't and we ended up changing the lot in the end.

38,755 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

2004 S type diesel

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On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

horrible job

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On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

no-one wants a slowly rusting old diesel jaguar

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On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

I really like driving this car

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On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

Anyone else been in a similar situation and what did you do?

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I've cherry picked quotes as I think you already know.

Reality is, no one is going to buy it and repair it. If it was an easy and cheap job then maybe - but you'd already would have done it. It comes down to whether you're prepared to fix it and do you like it enough to do so?

A modern Jag S-Type diesel is neither desirable (at least yet) nor rare. It's well past what most manufacturers consider end of life. Most people would see it as an old car now. But if you like it enough, then it's worth chucking the money at it to keep it going.

It's the quandary for most of us on here who are dailying 20+ year old cars. For me, as a recent example, I like my 2005 330i enough that I'm prepared to chuck money and time at it to get the gearbox working how it should be, while hopefully allowing it to last a lot longer.

3,110 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 09:16, Andyrew said:

My friends Range rover sport did this. The pedal progressively got a "wooden" feel to it.

We popped the vacuum pipe out and stuck a cable tie in as a dipstick to find it with about an inch of oil on it. So shoved my oil vacuum extractor in and stucked it out. Which made it work fine. It did fill up again over time and we repeated the occasional vac out but it was a "temp" fix to while he was fighting with land rover to warranty it, they didn't and we ended up changing the lot in the end.

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Ill give that a try!

3,110 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 09:26, SiC said:

I've cherry picked quotes as I think you already know.

Reality is, no one is going to buy it and repair it. If it was an easy and cheap job then maybe - but you'd already would have done it. It comes down to whether you're prepared to fix it and do you like it enough to do so?

A modern Jag S-Type diesel is neither desirable (at least yet) nor rare. It's well past what most manufacturers consider end of life. Most people would see it as an old car now. But if you like it enough, then it's worth chucking the money at it to keep it going.

It's the quandary for most of us on here who are dailying 20+ year old cars. For me, as a recent example, I like my 2005 330i enough that I'm prepared to chuck money and time at it to get the gearbox working how it should be, while hopefully allowing it to last a lot longer.

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Thanks, i've not decided yet and not had chance to fix it but I will do, armed with the info from Andyrew. At least drive it until December and see what the MOT throws up.

A 330i is a nice thing. Don't blame you for wanting to fix it.

1,946 · April 26

MK2 son has the ex @MVX11V diesel S type, due MOT on Tuesday, he can't get it mot'd until Wednesday.

Place bets now. It's been a pretty reliable, if thirsty old beastie, but the day of reckoning is nigh😱

April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 11:53, comfortablynumb said:

MK2 son has the ex @MVX11V diesel S type, due MOT on Tuesday, he can't get it mot'd until Wednesday.

Place bets now. It's been a pretty reliable, if thirsty old beastie, but the day of reckoning is nigh😱

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I reckon something will be said about the rear frame but a tenner on the passenger seat seems to make that go away. Front brakes too, if you haven't changed those yet. Check all the lamp operations just before it goes into the test centre, especially the number plate ones. These here Jagwars have been known to blow bulbs on the way to the test 😆

April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

Trying to decide what to do with my 2004 S type diesel. I've realised that the brake servo isn't serving as much as it should and that might be the reason for the 'DSC unavailable' warning. Took me ages to find a garage with the right diagnostic software. They quoted 6 hours labour (because it was a horrible job) and whatever Jaguar would charge for a service, master cylinder wtc. I've had a look online and although I doing the bolts to the servo is painful I can source second hand parts for about £150.

The car drives very well with no other issues. There are a couple of things that don't work as is typical for an older car but nothing major; boot unlock button doesn't work on the dash and I think the temp sensor for the climate control isn't working as it shows a high temp when it's not.

The other issue is bodywork as it's starting to go on the front of the rear arch and the front wing. Also, someone kindly scratched one of the rear doors the other day, probably as it was parked outside their house in the street. It's on the drive now.

My insurance runs out on 5th May so decision time. Do I fix the servo and run it u til the next MOT in December? I really like driving this car but I don't really need it as also have a CMax, a MK1 TT, a K11 Micra, and my wife's MG4. I also don't really want to let it go.

The final issue is that no-one wants a slowly rusting old diesel jaguar. I listed it in the for sale section on here and on gumtree. Not a sniff of interest. I've still not removed the sill covers yet to look at the sills. Maybe that will be the decider. If it's not too bad then I'm tempted to 'save' her.

Anyone else been in a similar situation and what did you do? There are other cars I would like to try at some point but that doesn't make it any easier. Would appreciate any advice, condolences, or straight talking.

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Unfortunately it only has value in some parts, once broken. The engine is liked by LR owners and the rear subframe if by some way of a miricle is in a sellable condition, is worth a few quid, most external trim, front lights, window mechs, windscreen and any suspension with any life left in it can be sold cheaply.

The rest is for bean cans. Swap it or keep it, they were a car ahead of their time and you get a lot for the money.

1,782 · April 26

I couldn't give my dad's old A type away, even some scrap men didn't bother to come and collect it

3,110 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 11:53, comfortablynumb said:

MK2 son has the ex @MVX11V diesel S type, due MOT on Tuesday, he can't get it mot'd until Wednesday.

Place bets now. It's been a pretty reliable, if thirsty old beastie, but the day of reckoning is nigh😱

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Good luck! Mine is not too bad on a run at 40+mpg but around 30 when used for short journeys. All time record below.

3,110 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 12:17, MVX11V said:

Unfortunately it only has value in some parts, once broken. The engine is liked by LR owners and the rear subframe if by some way of a miricle is in a sellable condition, is worth a few quid, most external trim, front lights, window mechs, windscreen and any suspension with any life left in it can be sold cheaply.

The rest is for bean cans. Swap it or keep it, they were a car ahead of their time and you get a lot for the money.

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I did think about stripping it for parts but from past experience with a 2001 A4 Avant, it's a lot of work.

I suppose many S types are at the same stage so getting scrapped or parted out and worth very little with plenty of cheap spares around. Shame as they are a nice car to waft around in.

April 26

Jaguars are easier to strip that audis. I know this is a fact. 😁

43,845 · April 26

2 blue saloons……

14,697 · April 26

On 26/04/2025 at 15:44, HMC said:

2 blue saloons……

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Is the cream-painted house starting to absorb No 53? 🤣

I'm struck by the simlarity in the lines of those two from the base of the screen to the top of the headlamps.

5,734 · April 26

Kernow bys vyken!

1,946 · April 26

Thanks @stripped fredand @MVX11V, he has put a bit of time into it, between rebuilding his V6 sierra, and starting work on the newly arrived cortina MK1 GT, but Wednesday will tell if he's spent enough.... 😁

61,460 · April 26

Progress.

16,219 · April 26

I saw a weird chicken today

2,638 · April 26

How many tyres do I need to buy in the coming weeks and months? Yes.

Last 4 in stock, and I’d be really pissed if waiting means they sold out. Supposedly really good, and reasonably cheap.
Bravo currently has 185/55 on, but supposedly these were the stock option, but someone probably downsized because it was cheaper. Rims are 6J so should be right.

61,460 · April 26

My experience with Kumho tyres has generally been pretty good - only downside is they seem to wear a bit quicker than more expensive tyres, but that tends to be the case for semi-budget brands with decent grip.

12,805 · April 27

On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

Trying to decide what to do with my 2004 S type diesel.

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I'll echo what @SiC says. It's down to how you really feel about it. Personally, I'd keep and look at fixing the faults. Most of us on here are dailying 20+ year cars and trying to fix faults, it's pretty much why we're here. I love working on the Vectra, making it better and doing bits to my Jag to make that better to.

I do like S-Types and have a soft spot for them. They've always been a consideration for me and despite the age, they still have some sort of classy look about them.

32,498 · April 27

On 26/04/2025 at 07:44, stripped fred said:

Trying to decide what to do with my 2004 S type diesel. I've realised that the brake servo isn't serving as much as it should and that might be the reason for the 'DSC unavailable' warning. Took me ages to find a garage with the right diagnostic software. They quoted 6 hours labour (because it was a horrible job) and whatever Jaguar would charge for a service, master cylinder wtc. I've had a look online and although I doing the bolts to the servo is painful I can source second hand parts for about £150.

The car drives very well with no other issues. There are a couple of things that don't work as is typical for an older car but nothing major; boot unlock button doesn't work on the dash and I think the temp sensor for the climate control isn't working as it shows a high temp when it's not.

The other issue is bodywork as it's starting to go on the front of the rear arch and the front wing. Also, someone kindly scratched one of the rear doors the other day, probably as it was parked outside their house in the street. It's on the drive now.

My insurance runs out on 5th May so decision time. Do I fix the servo and run it u til the next MOT in December? I really like driving this car but I don't really need it as also have a CMax, a MK1 TT, a K11 Micra, and my wife's MG4. I also don't really want to let it go.

The final issue is that no-one wants a slowly rusting old diesel jaguar. I listed it in the for sale section on here and on gumtree. Not a sniff of interest. I've still not removed the sill covers yet to look at the sills. Maybe that will be the decider. If it's not too bad then I'm tempted to 'save' her.

Anyone else been in a similar situation and what did you do? There are other cars I would like to try at some point but that doesn't make it any easier. Would appreciate any advice, condolences, or straight talking.

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I agree with SiC but I also think a lot of cars aren't selling at the moment. People still don't have spare money and are nervous about discretionary spend. It's totally understandable.

I have a lovely Saab 9-5 for sale that needs nothing doing, and while people are glad it exists, nobody wants to buy it.

I'd check it for rot before spending anything, if something is showing signs of corrosion on the outside, I'd take that as a general indicator and prepare on there being more elsewhere 😞

3,110 · April 27

On 27/04/2025 at 06:48, Split_Pin said:

I agree with SiC but I also think a lot of cars aren't selling at the moment. People still don't have spare money and are nervous about discretionary spend. It's totally understandable.

I have a lovely Saab 9-5 for sale that needs nothing doing, and while people are glad it exists, nobody wants to buy it.

I'd check it for rot before spending anything, if something is showing signs of corrosion on the outside, I'd take that as a general indicator and prepare on there being more elsewhere 😞

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Thanks, that is sensible advice. I will investigate by removing the sill covers and seeing what is there.

23,460 · April 27

2,147 · April 27

My wife and I welcomed our Daughter into the world yesterday morning. Future shiter I reckon.

20,548 · April 27

On 26/04/2025 at 15:52, High Jetter said:

Is the cream-painted house starting to absorb No 53? 🤣

I'm struck by the simlarity in the lines of those two from the base of the screen to the top of the headlamps.

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David Bache who modified the P4 in the mid-1950's was a real design genius.

25,089 · April 27

Just because I found this amusing.

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