AlabamaShrimp Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 In the posts I've not read does anyone say cheap ones? Tbh how much difference is there in tyres? I mean some are stupidly expensive but they wear and pop just the same as any other DeeJay and Junkman 2
Matt Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Tbh how much difference is there in tyres? Massive differences especially in wet braking. Look up some budget vs name brand tests on YouTube, it's not uncommon for cheapo imports to have a car doing 30+ MPH at the point where name brand tyres have the car stopped. rml2345, AlabamaShrimp and Partridge 3
Hendry Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I have had Michelin PS3s on the C4 VTS for about 4 years, but previously I tried Hankooks and they were really good in both wet and dry conditions. I'm not sure about how well they wear as I didn't have them long enough. In my experience Hankooks are good tyres too but dont last long, that used to be ok when they werent as well known and thus cheaper, now everyones cottoned on to how good they are and they have become a premium tyre with premium pricing there are more longer lasting tyres that are equally as good for the same money. Im basing this on Hankook Ventus K102, Ventus Prime, Ventus S1 Evo, and Ventus V12 Evo models.
AlabamaShrimp Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Massive differences especially in wet braking. Look up some budget vs name brand tests on YouTube, it's not uncommon for cheapo imports to have a car doing 30+ MPH at the point where name brand tyres have the car stopped.Ta! Didn't know there was videos on it, will have a look.
Partridge Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Massive differences especially in wet braking. Look up some budget vs name brand tests on YouTube, it's not uncommon for cheapo imports to have a car doing 30+ MPH at the point where name brand tyres have the car stopped.Brakes don't stop cars, tyres do.Agreed. My Sterling saloon was bloody terrifying on Nexens in the wet. Switched to Dunlops and it transformed the braking of the car! chaseracer 1
beko1987 Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 In my experience Hankooks are good tyres too but dont last long, that used to be ok when they werent as well known and thus cheaper, now everyones cottoned on to how good they are and they have become a premium tyre with premium pricing there are more longer lasting tyres that are equally as good for the same money. Im basing this on Hankook Ventus K102, Ventus Prime, Ventus S1 Evo, and Ventus V12 Evo models.I had ventus v12 evos all round on my Puma, they were ace! Literally never had a car since that I could drive from Marlow to stokenchurch as fast as that and not be worried about grip. The xm got close but I did nearly poo myself halfway round the corner, the suspension saved me there mostly I think! They've always been expensive in the sizes I've needed them in since though so I've not bothered. The Avons I had on the xantia for 2 weeks before I sold the car, so haven't really got an opinion on those. Uniroyal rainsports were very good, I found myself driving far too fast on b roads in heavy rain because I didn't feel any issues, bar looking at the speedo and going oops... They wore very fast, I swapped the fronts to the rear in 8 months iirc, and thay was on a zx
Lacquer Peel Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Dick Cheeseburger, 95 quid Peugeot, rml2345 and 5 others 8
UltraWomble Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 The Almera has Landsail tyres on the front and some Kingpin Weatherspeed tyres on the back - quite honestly they are the most horrible tyres of eVah and have as much grip in the wet as an excited puppy on laminate floor. They were however VERY cheap - £18 each for the Kingpins and £20 each for the Landsails The Moog, clayts450, catsinthewelder and 2 others 5
Tamworthbay Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I had forgotten about stomil tyres, I bought an escort with some fitted. They just didn't wear at all, didn't grip either unfortunately. Lacquer Peel 1
RoadworkUK Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Agree with all the Hankook positivity here, plus they say V12 on them, which is definitely what you need. Count me in for worshipping at the altar of the Falken Ziex, too. I have them all round on the Rover and - while they don't miraculously imbue it with handling prowess, at all, they're quiet and economical to travel on. Marvellous.
Bren Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I do NOT recommend these. Tyres should always be round if possible. I had these on my first vectra - triangle shaped tyres would have gripped better.
PiperCub Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 I had forgotten about stomil tyres, I bought an escort with some fitted. They just didn't wear at all, didn't grip either unfortunately. Ha! That was my experience of them too!!!! They were the car equivilent of those Pneumant(?) tyres they used to inflict on east european motorbikes (CZ's etc). Had good experiences with Uniroyal Rainmasters (or whatever they are called) on the 406 - very good wet or dry, not a great wear rate but you can't have everything. Going to try a set of Falkens on the Rover 214 when (if!) it passes it's MoT next month. About £45 per corner all in locally.
Junkman Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 In the posts I've not read does anyone say cheap ones? Tbh how much difference is there in tyres? I mean some are stupidly expensive but they wear and pop just the same as any other Tbh, I've driven a lot of miles on a lot of tyres, expensive ones, cheap ones and everything in between.You can beat me to death and I'd still be unable to tell a fucking difference.A driver to what degree must one be in order to be able to tell?Although, I used Goodyear Vector All Seasons for a while and despite I was still unable to notice a fucking differencein the handling department, they were the quietest ones I ever had. lisbon_road, Joey spud, Bobthebeard and 1 other 4
Junkman Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 There is one exception to the above, now that I think of it.An Opel C-Rekord Caravan 1900 S with Summer radials up front and Winter crossplies out back is an outstandlingly epic ride. Lacquer Peel 1
DodgyBastard Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Can't go wrong with a set of Roadhogs which were made in Slovakia. 95 quid Peugeot 1
doobietoo Posted June 15, 2017 Posted June 15, 2017 Just fitted a couple of rainmasters on the PT to replace the worn Pirellis and it made a huge difference, much better grip and stopping even in heavy rain. 205/55/16 £50 each fitted which seemed reasonable and worth paying a bit more for the extra reassurance. chaseracer 1
Hendry Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 The Almera has Landsail tyres on the front and some Kingpin Weatherspeed tyres on the back - quite honestly they are the most horrible tyres of eVah and have as much grip in the wet as an excited puppy on laminate floor. They were however VERY cheap - £18 each for the Kingpins and £20 each for the Landsails Sound a lot like the tyres on my pals Escort, it has a Camac tyre and a Ceat Spider and they are truly horrific. There was a fleet of Insignias bought in at work which for some reason came with these Goodyear All Season mud and snow tyres, utterly hopeless on wet and dry tarmac, kinda self explanitory really being mud and snow tyres but they were horrible, you couldnt drive enthusiastically or take bends quickly without making the bloody things squeal like you were trying to utterly hammer it everywhere, people used to look round with that "check this fucking idiot trying to wheelspin his car" or "here comes some boy racer absolutely tanking it round a residential area like a wanker" only to turn round and see a diesel Insignia estate doing 30mph. Between me and my old man weve had all sorts of budget shite, truly horrific, Wanli, Barum, Evergreen, Durun, HiFly, Infinity, Federal, Forceum, Nankang, Landsail, Arrowspeed, GT Radial, and the most surprisingly shit ones of all because i expected them to be good, Pirelli P6000s on 185/55/15 on a Corsa C with 11,000 miles on the clock 2 years old, utter dross, and i bet they cost a fortune because of the Pirelli name. Others I dont find worth the money are Bridgestone Turanzas, they are extortionate but youre lucky to get 12,000 miles out of them even on the rear of a big car like a Mondeo or a Vectra. Fuck that!
Tam Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 These may be cheaper (Budget) than your thinking but have been getting pretty good reviews on other forums I'm on! Just purchased a pair for my ZT and so far fine!THREE-A P606. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Three-A/P606_2.htm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-tyres-s-THREE-A-P606-205-50-16-2055016-87W-/292122708045?fits=Tyre+Width%3A205%7CAspect+Ratio%3A50%7CRim+Diameter%3A16&hash=item4403dec84d:g:kioAAOSwPh5ZHtsf
dollywobbler Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Uniroyals are ideal for those who change cars a lot. They tend to be cheap, offer tons of grip, but don't last forever. I've got a set of Nokia All Weather tyres on the Honda. I've been impressed with those. Think they were about fifty quid each.
jonathan_dyane Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 I'm running a set of 'Marshal' tyres currently which are apparently Kumho's budget brand. So far they seem good although they do squeal when pressing on. In the wet so far they are excellent; on the old tyres I had the back end out several times in the wet...
Ghosty Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Another one for Hankook here. I had a set of Kinergy Ecos fitted to the 216, and Old Man had a set on his good Civic too. Super quiet, grippy and pretty decent wearing too, what more could you want?!
chaseracer Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Avons are a favourite, Kumhos and yokos also good for the money usually. Another vote for Avons here. I slung a set of ZV5s (I think) under the ex-Wobbler 300E to replace the very scrutable Oriental deathrings that were doing little other than keeping the wheels from making sparks, and it was transformed. The Dunlop BluResponse2s on the front of the Blingo are good and grippy but a little noisy. The Barums on the back just quietly get on with the job. The 205 has three Barums and a Landsail. Sorry. The Dyane has Michelins all round - as God, Pierre Boulanger and the Michelin board of directors intended. The 135s on the front cost as much as the four Avons on the Merc... Partridge 1
Partridge Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 ZV5 are, to quote the Mrs's response to them when they were on my X300 are "nice and swooshy". But I found them quite lumpen and devoid of feel?
chaseracer Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 "Nice and swooshy" is a perfect description! Also, a 180000-mile W124 Merc is hardly the last word in mechanical precision, so... Partridge 1
bunglebus Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 The National Tyres mobile fitter who used to come in and do our tyre replacements onsite after we changed from ATS came in once moaning about his call centre and his customers, got chatting and he said some muppet had ordered 4 Dunlop Blueresponse to be fitted to his carNot entirely related but I had a pair of Dunlop BluResponse tyres on my Passat and I really wasn't impressed, they didn't seem very grippy but still wore out quickly. I replaced them with Goodyear Efficient Grips which are excellent, so I've put a pair on the back too (I don't do budget tyres any more after spinning my Sierra off the A414 on a pair of Chinese ditchfinders).
fordperv Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 I have had great experiences with falken ziex, I ran them for years with no issues, also i couldnt sing the praises of Yoko bluearth any higher, I had a set fitted to the saph when the falken had worn out and I couldn't get a full set, I then wanted uniroyal but there was no stock in the right size, my friendly tyre shop owner who ive known for years highly recommended the Yoko as his mrs has a set on her motor that he tried and tested and was very happy with. They grip well all weathers. stay away from maxxis tyres i had some map1 on a few years back and the first sniff of damp i became a drift hero, they gave as much grip as ice skating in slippers.
chaseracer Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Tbh, I've driven a lot of miles on a lot of tyres, expensive ones, cheap ones and everything in between.You can beat me to death and I'd still be unable to tell a fucking difference.A driver to what degree must one be in order to be able to tell?Although, I used Goodyear Vector All Seasons for a while and despite I was still unable to notice a fucking differencein the handling department, they were the quietest ones I ever had. Clearly, some possess a greater degree of mechanical sympathy than others.
Junkman Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Just fitted a couple of rainmasters on the PT to replace the worn Pirellis and it made a huge difference, much better grip and stopping even in heavy rain. 205/55/16 £50 each fitted which seemed reasonable and worth paying a bit more for the extra reassurance. New tyres better than worn tyres shocker. 95 quid Peugeot 1
Partridge Posted June 16, 2017 Posted June 16, 2017 Clearly, some possess a greater degree of mechanical sympathy than others.I think it depends on how "fingertippy" you are as a driver and if you like "feel" the road when you drive or not.Does that make any sense? myglaren 1
clayts450 Posted June 16, 2017 Author Posted June 16, 2017 These may be cheaper (Budget) than your thinking but have been getting pretty good reviews on other forums I'm on! Just purchased a pair for my ZT and so far fine!THREE-A P606. http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Tyre/Three-A/P606_2.htm http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-x-tyres-s-THREE-A-P606-205-50-16-2055016-87W-/292122708045?fits=Tyre+Width%3A205%7CAspect+Ratio%3A50%7CRim+Diameter%3A16&hash=item4403dec84d:g:kioAAOSwPh5ZHtsf These look a veritable bargain Tam 1
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