SPEDDIG TIKKIT update 9/5/16

[outlaw118]

Cheers Parky - I paid it last night, and have just filled in the form and found what's left of my driving licence to send off.

 

I was hoping for a course, but hey, never mind eh?

 

I only mentioned the old points to illustrate that I'm normally responsible!

[outlaw118]

 

 

 You have to admire the optimism at least 

It's all part of my new happy-go-lucky persona.

 

It won't last.

[fordperv]

Yep - I admit i've been a twat

 

I do drive fast - but speed doesn't kill, idiocy kills.

Good that you can see it, i realised the error of my ways a few years back after a real arse twitcher moment, I've slowed it down, the idiocy doesn't just have to be down to the driver, you may be able to handle the speed but that doesn't mean that others on the road will react properly and may at anytime pull into your path, guess what that could end in..... death by dangerous driving, stay safe slow it down and have a clear conscience

[Pillock]

Sounds like the copper was using a little bit of common sense in steering you towards a course/fine+points rather than a ban, due to road conditions and lack of danger involved in what you were doing.

So based on that being a bit of a bonus, I'd just pay up and take the hit. It may be that the wrong reg would invalidate it all, but you'll spend the next six months fearing every letter that comes through the door in case they drag you to court over it after all.

 

FWIW, my ex got a parking ticket for the wrong reg - a '65 Beetle, with a C suffix plate, magically turned into a C prefix with the same numbers and letters. Binned it, heard nothing, nice. However I'm assuming the cops took note of your licence details so they know where to find you.

[Eddie Honda]

I did explain I was desperate for a shit

Too late, but you could've got the PC to use his discretion, but you failed to give him a laugh after being pulled over.

 

Rather than come up with a lame excuse, you should have substantiated the desperation by doing an emergency jobby on the banking/verge/field. Only the most stony-faced miserable-arsed plod could of booked you then.

[Barry Cade]

Just found out this morning I'm going to gather another 3 points- 50 in a 40 "roadwork" zone, to protect the workforce. On the A9 in the desolate Cairngorms. At 3.30am.Average speed cameras. The only other living thing I saw that night was a pheasant that went through my headlamp. No speed awareness courses in Scotland either. I'm going to be Mr McDaisy for the next 3 years...

[Ghosty]

 

 

FWIW, my ex got a parking ticket for the wrong reg - a '65 Beetle, with a C suffix plate, magically turned into a C prefix with the same numbers and letters. Binned it, heard nothing, nice. However I'm assuming the cops took note of your licence details so they know where to find you.

 

This happens - a couple of years ago Old Man got a parking ticket in the Scottish Borders despite not having been up there in at least 20 years (if ever, he doesn't like Scottish people). It was intended for a different Civic from the same registration series - his car was originally registered in Carlisle. Old Man knew it was a typo on someone else's part so he just sent them a friendly letter saying it wasn't him nor was it possible that it could have been, and suggested an error had been made, and he never heard anything of it again.

A while earlier he got a speeding ticket for a 190E he'd just PX'd, again just sent off a letter 'wasn't me guv, just sold it, V5 in post', heard nothing more.

Not worth pointing out errors, whether they're in your favour or not - even if you don't, someone else might set them straight. Nobody pays for anyone else's mistakes when it comes to motoring fines.

[warren t claim]

After arranging an online licence check for work I've discovered that my points have expired!

 

I know this isn't much help but in 1988 I was caught speeding on the East Lancs Rd at a speed of between 111 and 118mph in, and I quote, 'high powered, fuel injected, Ford Escort XR3i' by a policewoman driving a Greater Manchester Police unmarked Capri 2.8i (I thought she wanted a race!). I received a two week ban for my reckless attitude towards the 70mph speed limit and trying to get off on the technicality of the car I was driving was actually a RS1600i didn't help in the slightest. 

[tinribs]

As I understand it, points expire after 3 years of being given. So...

Drive like a twat on 1-jan-2000 - earn 3 points. 3 in total.
Drive like a fanny on 1-jan-2001 - earn 6 points. 9 in total.
Drive like a nun on 1-jan-2002. Earn fuck-all. Still 9 in total.
Drive like a tit on 1-jan-2003. Earn 3 points. You're banned sunshine.
Drive like a nun on the same day and you're still at 9 points. The 3 points from 1-jan-2000 expire the next day so you're back to 6 points.
On 2-jan-2004 the other 6 points go if you didn't scoop up any more. So a clean licence. Yay!

Bans however don't expire after 3 years. Depending upon the reason for the ban, some are "spent" after a certain number of years. Some are permanent and will never expire.

Drive safe!

[Guest Lord Sward]

Just found out this morning I'm going to gather another 3 points- 50 in a 40 "roadwork" zone, to protect the workforce. On the A9 in the desolate Cairngorms. At 3.30am.Average speed cameras. The only other living thing I saw that night was a pheasant that went through my headlamp. No speed awareness courses in Scotland either. I'm going to be Mr McDaisy for the next 3 years...

 

 

They've got to recuperate the cost the the works somehow. 

[binhoker668]

Just found out this morning I'm going to gather another 3 points- 50 in a 40 "roadwork" zone, to protect the workforce. On the A9 in the desolate Cairngorms. At 3.30am.Average speed cameras. The only other living thing I saw that night was a pheasant that went through my headlamp. No speed awareness courses in Scotland either. I'm going to be Mr McDaisy for the next 3 years...

Yup, I'm an incredibly boring speed limit driver now meself.  Had a clean licence for 25 years right up until 3 months ago...

I think I need to go back to non-turbos.  Never had a problem in my lumbering old 405 1.9d!!

I'm kinda not joking either.

[srad34]

That will learn you for driving one of them new fangled cars, if it had been a 51 plate, its unlikely this would ever have happened   

 

Well done with the lucky escape, chokey is place for a shitter brother

[rainagain]

Just found out this morning I'm going to gather another 3 points- 50 in a 40 "roadwork" zone, to protect the workforce. On the A9 in the desolate Cairngorms. At 3.30am.Average speed cameras. The only other living thing I saw that night was a pheasant that went through my headlamp. No speed awareness courses in Scotland either. I'm going to be Mr McDaisy for the next 3 years...

I drove down to Leicester recently, East coast down, West coast back up. There's miles and miles of these sodding road works with average speed cameras on both routes. This seems to be the new way of doing roadworks rather than cone off and dig up a 1/2 mile at a time they set these average speed zones up for the entire length of the works at the start of the job and leave them there active the whole time even though this could be months. It doesn't matter if there is no one actually there to protect. 

 

It would be incredibly simple to swap the dumb speed signs for active ones and then just turn them on and off as needed. One section for example was a three lane motorway restricted down to two lanes, it was ten o'clock at night there wasn't a single person working yet all the traffic had to trundle along at 40 for no reason what so ever.

[garbaldy]

If the 40mph average limit was to protect the workforce then is it not a proven fact that speeds over 30mph kill when being hit with a big lump of mobile steel as for points they are supposed to only last 3 years yet insurance company's ask if you've had any in the last 5 years.

[Pillock]

They stay on your licence for three years, some insurance companies ask for 4 years worth of declarations and some 5.

They're not asking if you've got points on your licence, they're asking if you've been caught doing anything naughty in that time - but given the unique way that the insurance industry works, they could ask how you like your eggs in the morning and your favourite sexual position and refuse to cover you if they don't like the answer and nobody can stop them.

 

And yes, if the letter hasn't arrived to the registered keeper within 14 days, you can safely disregard the incident. This obviously causes problems with hire cars, company cars etc where you're not the keeper (one of my colleagues got a speeding fine plus points 5 weeks after the event, as the lease car company were slow to send out details and the police prioritise the inital letters over and above subsequent mailings) but if it's your name and address on the V5, and it's been 15 days or more - happy times.

 

Average speed cams don't flash, BTW..... the new side-gantry ones do, but average ones don't which is why in roadworks they have floodlights to illuminate the capture area so the reg can be properly read, and where they're permanent they usually have two heads - one camera, and one high powered IR lamp. Without this they'd catch nobody at night as they work on a video feed analysed for registration numbers, rather than a laser spotting an "object" moving fast and taking a photo of whatever it was.

 

I can confirm that the new gantry ones on the M1 just north of Tibshelf services, heading Northbound, work perfectly and are tied into the variable speed limits. Luckily I can confirm this as I was headed south as it flashed someone on the other side

[Barry Cade]

If the 40mph average limit was to protect the workforce then is it not a proven fact that speeds over 30mph kill when being hit with a big lump of mobile steel as for points they are supposed to only last 3 years yet insurance company's ask if you've had any in the last 5 years.

I wish I had a mobile "protect the workforce" camera when I'm changing a wheel on the M8. In rush hour. OK for Artics to whistle past me inches away at ahem.... 56.

 

Maybe I'll just leave my van on the hard shoulder with all the lights blazing all the time in case someone does get a puncture

[OwdChina]

After arranging an online licence check for work I've discovered that my points have expired!

 

I know this isn't much help but in 1988 I was caught speeding on the East Lancs Rd at a speed of between 111 and 118mph in, and I quote, 'high powered, fuel injected, Ford Escort XR3i' by a policewoman driving a Greater Manchester Police unmarked Capri 2.8i (I thought she wanted a race!). I received a two week ban for my reckless attitude towards the 70mph speed limit and trying to get off on the technicality of the car I was driving was actually a RS1600i didn't help in the slightest. 

LoLs.....did you ever see that diamond white 3 door cosworth sierra they used to use on the M6. Beautiful car that was. They got me at 125 in a modified 2.8 capri for pretty much the same reason in 1993.

[inconsistant]

 I'm normally responsible!

 

Pfffffffffffffff.

[inconsistant]

I did explain I was desperate for a shit

 

Shit happens etc.

 

 

Points system explained:

 

 

Type 7

Something is definitely wrong. This is how the body reacts when it’s trying to rid itself of toxic substances.

 

Type 6

Borderline not-so-good. This is like a rushed Type 5 . . . should be a Type 5 but it was rushed. It may have been rushed because of a food sensitivity (caffeine?), or stress.

 

Type 5

Good poops for a two or three times-a-day type of person, likely after meals.

 

Type 4

Good poops for the once-a-day type person.

 

Type 3

OH BOY! This is constipation to the max – not healthy. Aside from a desperate need for fiber, you’re also looking at chronic dehydration and severe gut-imbalance issues.

 

Type 2

Like a condensed type 1, meaning that it’s probably sitting in your colon for a longer period of time . . . not good. Poop shouldn’t hang out in the body for more than 72 hours. Build-up like this can start pushing up against other things and cause discomfort and impede other body functions. The diameter of the poop also won’t feel good coming out.

 

Type 1

Rabbit turds are for rabbits. If you’re pooping pebbles, it could be that you’re dehydrated, or that your gut flora or bacteria may be out of balance.

[Guest Lord Sward]

If the 40mph average limit was to protect the workforce then is it not a proven fact that speeds over 30mph kill when being hit with a big lump of mobile steel 

 

 

You'll be pleased to hear the dual carriageway of the A1 where I live has been speed camera capped to 30mph north bound for 2 years now.  And yes, not a single death.  Mind you, the same section is 40mph southbound.  Luckily, theres been no deaths there - yet.

[purplebargeken]

 barring one unfortunate incident with a Kangoo and the River Strood, I've not bent anything.

 

dare not ask!

[outlaw118]

There's a causeway onto Mersea island, which floods at high tide - i attempted to cross before water had abated sufficiently.

 

Bye bye 3 month old Kangaroo - u haz wattery enjin

 

And for approximately 12 years afterwards, i got Speedos and inflatable arm-bands in the Secret Santa @ work.

[outlaw118]

OMG UPDATE

 

Got the remnants of my licence back from teh polis today - it's now in 4 wrinkled bits rather than the two I sent off.....(it's the same "old style pink licence" that i've had since 3/1999) and there's nowt written or typed on iT. They've stamped the form I sent off as "processed", so here's hoping it's all sorted.

[Lankytim]

This 14 day rule doesn't apply if you were stopped at the roadside, as the coppers have already identified you as the driver, they have 6 months from the date of the offence to take you to court though.

[Pillock]

You'll be pleased to hear the dual carriageway of the A1 where I live has been speed camera capped to 30mph north bound for 2 years now.  And yes, not a single death.  Mind you, the same section is 40mph southbound.  Luckily, theres been no deaths there - yet.

 

That's because when you're headed downwards, gravity makes you go faster.

[Captain Furious]

Probably be worth doing a licence check on the DVLA website to see if any points register on there, just in case they added them but forgot to scribble on your licence

 

Of course, you'll need to allow 18 months for the DVLA computer to 'update'

[forddeliveryboy]

Just found out this morning I'm going to gather another 3 points- 50 in a 40 "roadwork" zone, to protect the workforce. On the A9 in the desolate Cairngorms. At 3.30am.Average speed cameras. The only other living thing I saw that night was a pheasant that went through my headlamp. No speed awareness courses in Scotland either. I'm going to be Mr McDaisy for the next 3 years...

 

The whole nation needs to drive through these at a speed just sufficient to trigger the cameras, at 3am when there's no workforce within 20 miles. It's a bloody joke, talk about Big Brother - we're more controlled than those desperate, intensively reared animals and birds.

 

Totally agree with the comment made about tens of miles of coned-off and speed-policed sections, when only a mile or two need be restricted. 

 

I've seen more than one serious crash in these slow-mo zones, I've little doubt every one caused by the soporific effects when travelling at 29 or 39 mph on a straight, empty motorway with a lane coned off. 

[Urko]

Purely anecdotally - I seem to hear regular reports of accidents and knock-on delays in the miles and miles of interminable roadworks when they were doing that section of the M1 from J28.

 

As I posted today in the grumpy thread - they have legally restricted several miles of a 50 limit A road near me  to 30 for more than 2 weeks whilst no work has been done (they did all the work on the two separate days when they closed the road completely).  Now into the third week with top dressing applied, we have advisory 20mph signs next to the 30 limit signs. 

[wuvvum]

They are building a (completely pointless) northern bypass around Norwich at the moment.  All the main roads into the city from the north have been restricted to 30 through the "roadworks" (there's no work going on in the road whatsoever, it's all in the adjacent fields).  95% of motorists treat the 30 limit with the contempt it deserves, but on busy single carriageways it only takes one ditherer / "yes I would jump off a cliff if the law told me to" type to slow every fucker else down.  Then nobody seems to dare to overtake for some reason, and the traffic just sits bunched up at 30 for the entire stretch.  I overtook a line of 5 cars this morning, on the Spacy, going uphill.  That's not a trick I can pull off on many A roads.

[ChinaTom]

M74 the same. Various bits randomly at 40 - just a set of cones in the middle of slow lane, and nothing going on until 30 yards from the end, where 5 highway maintenance trucks are parked up. Police are very very vigilant on the Gretna to Larkhall stretch - marked and unmarked cars (latter are black/silver 3 Series and black Astras). Locals and Stobart/Niven sit at 45 feeling like goodie-goodies as Fowler Welch thunders past at 60, everyone else at 85.

 

I do have sympathy for those with speeding convictions, but having just wasted 8 minutes of my life trundling through an arrow-straight stretch of nearly empty 3-lane at cruise controlled 43 and seeing the 318ds fly by at a care-free 90, it does seem slightly satisfying to see said 318d driver 4 miles later with a black flashy lighty 330d in front of it on the hard shoulder.

 

Its a dilemma. I would normally agree with the above A47 situation, but here on the M74, they are waiting for you with their clipboards polished and best patronizing lines about taking safety more seriously up here. If I (or indeed anyone using the M74 daily) survive this year without 3 points it will be a miracle.