Anybody painted their shite? Best paint?

[Bren]

Cellulose is the most widely used for home paint jobs - but I don't like the way it is'nt very durable - plus you have to polish it regularly otherwise it goes dull.

 

Anybody used anything different that won't give me emphysema and is tough? Two pack is a no no as I will end up killing everyone in the street.

[Jimmycrackcorn]

B&M's finest exterior masonry paint £13.99 5lt. Used it on my LDV Luton and it did surprisingly well.

[trigger]

Most bodyshops now use 2 Pack, it's now water based so it's safer for the environment and better for home use i believe too.

[dave21478]

eh, I spray 2-pack with a filter mask and am not quite dead yet.

 

Problem is the last car I did I made a right bollocks of and it had orange-peel finish like a cheap hookers thighs, but because 2-pack sets like diamonds it was a nightmare to flat and re-polish.

[Tamworthbay]

I use Jawel paint, they do a one pack that isnt celly or two pack (obviously). Not sure what it is but it's good stuff.

[fordperv]

Dulux, thousands of banger racers can't be wrong

[D Spares & Tyres]

Dulux, thousands of banger racers can't be wrong

Thinned out with a bit of petrol ☺

[Bobthebeard]

I used some rattle cans made up by a local paint supplier (Martin Brown in Blackpool) to paint the repaired areas on the Mercury. Took in a door mirror as a colour sample and they made up the paint to match. It matched very well TBH. Two 400 ml cans for £30. A good gloss without lacquer, although may flat it back and apply lacquer when the weather is warmer next year. Think the paint is acrylic. Apart from that, no idea! The whole bonnet, front and rear bumpers, drivers door and part of the lower half of the os wing was painted using it.

 

[steveo3002]

Most bodyshops now use 2 Pack, it's now water based so it's safer for the environment and better for home use i believe too.

 

sort of but not really

 

solvent base coat has been replaced with water based in many bodyshops , but you still need the nasty primer and clear coat to go with it , so no better off for the home user

 

 

op - 2k is the only way to go if you want it to last well ...many users get away with a face mask but thats up to you 

[lisbon_road]

Face mask as in a filter does nothing at all for vapours.   I'm amazed at the times I've seen people, including on tv, think it does.  Remember the 'For the love of cars' episode about the Aston - I loved the programme by the way, not knocking it.

 

Years ago there were masks with activated carbon in them which were much better, but I haven't seen them.  Might be partly as the paint is so risky now that they aren't good enough.

 

Can you actually get cellulose type paint now?  

 

I've seen people paint cars with dulux type paint and get a really good job.  But you need to be really skilled with the brush.  I'm not so leave painting to others.

[D Spares & Tyres]

No mix the dulux with petrol 50/50 and spray it on. ☺

[Crusty Sills]

Water bourne base coats need a proper temp controlled booth cure properly and flow evenly.

I always had air fed masks when I was a spray painter but you need a lot of air to run them.

Sprayed plenty of cars at home with 2K paints only using a filter mask/holding breath and not died yet.

[bigfella2]

Two 400ml colour matched spray cans for £30, can't believe it's that expensive nowadays. Jeeez!!!!!

[pshome]

Can't tell you about paint, but foil is rather cheap. Its no less work than a good paint job though. Results vary depending on how good the old paint surface is, any default in the original surface is  visible through the foil. Posing the plastic isn't that difficult.

We did the roof first, big mistake... better do the large parts after you got some experience with small surfaces and a feeling for the right mix of stretchcing and heating the stuff. Nice part: if you get it wrong, ripp it off and try again.

Modern foil is micro perforated, bubbles are no issue at all.

You do need a garage that is as dust free as possible, every dust grain remains visible under the foil.

 

On a colorful job like this, its perfect, i wouldn't do a white or black car...

 

Big advantage: if you dont like it anymore after some time, just peel it off.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQDsNKWou3c

[dave21478]

I used some rattle cans made up by a local paint supplier (Martin Brown in Blackpool) to paint the repaired areas on the Mercury. Took in a door mirror as a colour sample and they made up the paint to match. It matched very well TBH. Two 400 ml cans for £30. A good gloss without lacquer, although may flat it back and apply lacquer when the weather is warmer next year. Think the paint is acrylic. Apart from that, no idea! The whole bonnet, front and rear bumpers, drivers door and part of the lower half of the os wing was painted using it.

 

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Two 400ml colour matched spray cans for £30, can't believe it's that expensive nowadays. Jeeez!!!!!

 

Fifteen quid a tin isnt much more than a basic Halfords spray these days and if its properly matched and has a good spray pattern, probably well worth it.

 

Actually, Im bloody impressed that he got a bonnet, door, two bumpers and half a wing on a large-ish barge done from just two cans.

[bigfella2]

I reckon then another 4-5 cans could do the entire car then, not bad for £100ish quid.

[strangeangel]

Some years ago I sprayed our old Renault Master with coach paint, using one of those reverse-vacuum-cleaner Apollo HVLP sprayers. It looked good, but thanks the lord I sprayed it in a field because the overspray was horrendous. My respirator earned its keep and all my clothes were as green as the van.

 

I will have a root round and see if I can find some pictures.

 

EDIT: Here we are... before:

 

 

And after:

 

[Dave_Q]

eh, I spray 2-pack with a filter mask and am not quite dead yet.

 

Problem is the last car I did I made a right bollocks of and it had orange-peel finish like a cheap hookers thighs, but because 2-pack sets like diamonds it was a nightmare to flat and re-polish.

 

I can concur on both points, I sprayed some bike panels in 2 pack, just had a normal face mask, did feel slightly ill afterwards but didn't die.

 

The finish wasn't amazing but mostly due to technique, had some runs from putting it on too thick and it was quite orange peel-y as I think I didn't quite thin the lacquer enough.

 

Hard as you like once set though.

[pompei]

I sprayed a Fiat 500 a few years ago in my dad's garage.  I used a cheapo mask and for weeks afterwards, every time I blew my nose, it was dark blue.  Don't do it kids.

[junkyarddog]

Last car I painted was this,solvent base coat and two pack clear,used a good quality 3M respirator,didn't die.

Water based paint is shit and not suitable for home spraying.

[lisbon_road]

http://www.hse.gov.uk/mvr/bodyshop/isocyanates.htm

 

Sorry but it isn't good.

[Des]

Two pack is extremely dangerous stuff, Mr. Shakur is no longer with us merely from being named after it. I've known four panel beaters who have used it regularly without the right respiratories, because they believed it safer than celly, less fumes, wouldn't be told otherwise, three of them went full on hatstand mental, extremely violent, angry nutters, the fourth of them was a big time pothead, not so badly affected, but rather than being chilled became an extreme wanker.

[cort16]

It can build up in your system too so one day you're okay then pop. If you work as a painter they're supposed tegularly test you for cysnide levels.

Even with water based paint it's only the base coat and primer that are water based the laquer is still 2k.

It can also be absorbed through your hair hence the fully body suits. Fuck that shit

[Bobthebeard]

Fifteen quid a tin isnt much more than a basic Halfords spray these days and if its properly matched and has a good spray pattern, probably well worth it.

 

Actually, Im bloody impressed that he got a bonnet, door, two bumpers and half a wing on a large-ish barge done from just two cans.

Actually a bit misleading in my post. It took four cans to do the above. I had to go back for more!

[stripped fred]

Just because you've used 2 pack paint and not died doesn't mean it isn't damaging your lungs. These things often don't become evident until later in life. Being plugged into an oxygen concentrator machine 24 hours a day isn't a lot of fun. I see it all the time in my job.

 

http://www.hse.gov.uk/mvr/bodyshop/isocyanates.htm

 

Stay safe out there shiter's!

[junkyarddog]

I agree 2 pack paint is nasty stuff to your health,

but I rarely use it,so figure the occasional paint job with it reasonably ok.

Well ventilated work area and good quality mask,wear gloves,try not to get it on your skin and use a disposable painters suit.

 

Prolonged useage without proper safety equipment is very risky though.

[stephen01]

I sprayed a Fiat 500 a few years ago in my dad's garage.  I used a cheapo mask and for weeks afterwards, every time I blew my nose, it was dark blue.  Don't do it kids.

 

What colour was the car?

[pompei]

Dark blue  -  most alarming when I sneezed

[Lankytim]

I've got 10l of JCB yellow Polyurethane paint that I errr.. found.

 

May paint the minor with it, but I've been told it won't shine up very well. 

[plasticvandan]

Painted an acadiane with grey lathe paint,and a kitten with blackboard paint,both turned out well* I think that if your the sort that worries about paintwork,you can afford to get someone to spray it.