Automotive bull5hit facts thread

[ProgRocker]

Dick Teague of AMC got the inspiration for the styling of what would be the Gremlin compact car in early 1966 when he tripped over a paperweight being used to prop open a door in the design office. 

[ProgRocker]

BMW are going to make their new cars easier to do DIY on.

Appearently, it will be possible to remove the engine through the grille.

[sloth]

commer called their truck the commer knocker, as it was the first truck to be driven by a lady with massive cans. 

 

there are 2 cars mentioned in the bible - leviticus 2:13 - "and the lord said this is my accord badermatic in beige"  and JOHN 4:23 "and jesuses death was brought with a herald, in dogshit brown, with a fucked 1300cc engine. and the lord proclaimeth " it doth need a rebore, and a head gasket, for that is my commandment" and then it was recovered by Big Ern from 3-ways recovery"

[sierraman]

The Aussie singer Tina Arenas 90’s Hit ‘Chains’ was written about her concern about timing belts and her belief in the duplex chains fitted to various German machinery. In fact for the Singapore market it was release with the title ‘Timing Chains’

[chaseracer]

On 01/02/2021 at 23:44, Ghosty said:

Princess Anne was made of fibreglass, you know.

Her hair certainly is.  She only discovered the Reliant Scimitar because Tamworth's premier manufacturer of metallurgically-challenged variable-wheeled motor vehicles was awarded the Royal Warrant to supply her barnet.

[ProgRocker]

33 minutes ago, sierraman said:

The Aussie singer Tina Arenas 90’s Hit ‘Chains’ was written about her concern about timing belts and her belief in the duplex chains fitted to various German machinery. In fact for the Singapore market it was release with the title ‘Timing Chains’

Tina's other single 'Sorrento Moon' was about the time she saw some bogan dropping his trousers in public  and waving his arse while standing on the roof of a Kia 4x4. 

[JeeExEll]

The Chrysler 180™ model name was invented by French darts champion Erique Bristeau who worked as a freelance car-name inventor at the time. 

In 1969 he sold the model name 'Bullseye' to Lamborghini although they haven't used it yet.  In the late 1980s he sold '45' and '75' to Rover.  'Double-Six' was sold to Daimler.  Fiat reserved a short batch in 1966 - from '124' to  '133'.

He still has a wide variety of model names in stock and for sale including '61', 'Treble-Twenty', and '15'.

'15' was loaned to Renault in 1971 but when the seven-year lease ran out in 1978 they had to stop making them, or call it something different.

[JeeExEll]

The Ford model name 'Super' was invented by celebrity Jim Bowen when he worked briefly for Ford in 1959.  First used on the 105E Anglia, Jim received a 1p royalty for every 'Super' badge made.

There was a bit of an altercation in 1961 between Jim and some Rootes-group officials when they announced the new Hillman Super Minx, a fight broke out in a pub car-park and he allegedly called them 'thieving wassocks', but they all became friends later.

Other model names invented by Mr. Bowen were 'Smashing' and 'Great', although (so far) they appear to have gone unused by Ford who still own the rights.

[anonymous user]

Although Ford own the rights to Great, as a vehicle designation, the Chinese firm Great Wall have never paid Ford a penny

[Parky]

12 hours ago, JeeExEll said:

The Ford model name 'Super' was invented by celebrity Jim Bowen when he worked briefly for Ford in 1959.  First used on the 105E Anglia, Jim received a 1p royalty for every 'Super' badge made.

There was a bit of an altercation in 1961 between Jim and some Rootes-group officials when they announced the new Hillman Super Minx, a fight broke out in a pub car-park and he allegedly called them 'thieving wassocks', but they all became friends later.

Other model names invented by Mr. Bowen were 'Smashing' and 'Great', although (so far) they appear to have gone unused by Ford who still own the rights.

Despite everything Jim did for Ford, they wouldn’t lend him a car so he always had his bus fare home.

[Parky]

In other news, Caterham are about to launch a new EV kit car with technical support from Tamiya.  

Cars will be sold through a revolutionary new distribution network of model and hobby shops, initially in two trims, Grasshopper and Hornet.  Customers can specify RS380:or RS540 power plants but are advised not to drive too close to other similar models in case their crystals are both preset to the same frequency.

Battery life is expected to be around 15 minutes although the prototype was destroyed in crash testing.  The tester, Jamie (aged 9) said it had stood up to the kerb test well but sadly his Dad had reversed his Vitara over it.

It is currently being rebuilt by the technical team operating out of a bright yellow van with “Vanessas Lunchbox” on it

[Parky]

12 hours ago, JeeExEll said:

The Chrysler 180™ model name was invented by French darts champion Erique Bristeau who worked as a freelance car-name inventor at the time. 

In 1969 he sold the model name 'Bullseye' to Lamborghini although they haven't used it yet.  In the late 1980s he sold '45' and '75' to Rover.

He still has a wide variety of model names in stock and for sale including '61', 'Treble-Twenty', and '15'.

Erique Bristeau.  That’s just absolute genius.  Always enjoyed watching him play Jean L’eau

[JimH]

Some people know that early VW Beetles had a reserve petrol tap in place of a fuel gauge and that this feature made a reappearance in the late 1960s for the economy 1200A models. Few, however, know that an even cheaper model was proposed where even the reserve tap was considered an extravagance. These models were to be supplied with a laminated card in the door pocket with the phrase "Could you help me push my car" in nineteen European languages. 

The proposal was rejected when it was discovered that the 1200A did not have any door pockets.

[mk2_craig]

NAC MG UK Ltd secretly hired the Ricardo automotive engineering consultancy at great cost to thoroughly review the TF prior to restarting production, to ensure that all the original design flaws which had gradually been eliminated over the previous decade were painstakingly reintroduced to guarantee that authentic 1996 ownership experience for lucky purchasers of the LE500.

[Talbot]

Bedford, as a marque, started out by camper converting Ford vans, hence the name:  Bed-Ford.  Thereafter, once they had enough capital to do so, they designed their own vehicles, both campers and normal vans and shortened the name to Bedford.  They extended their market to include many other vehicles, but never lost sight of their initial market, selling campervans (although often through specialist converters) right up until the end.

[vulgalour]

After fighting at length with a striped deckchair on a windy Folkestone beach, the owner of a new Bedford CA was hit by inspiration when frustratingly throwing the deckchair in the back to be dealt with at a later date.  This owner realised that the inside of his new shiny van wasn't that far off the porportions of his own cottage.  Excitedly, he hurtled home to put his plan in action, dismantling the deckchair and taking a can opener to the roof of his van.  The resulting contraption gained him the nickname of Dormer Bill due to the distinctive shape the deckchair's frame lent to the roof extension on his home away from home.  Bedford were so taken with the idea that they worked with Bill for many years.  Bill's son, Tor, would also go into this new family business and they maintained a friendly rivalry for many years.

[Parky]

In 1972, an error by British Leylands canteen saw 2 million tins of oxtail soup being ordered.  This was too much for the loyal, diligent hard working men of the plant who wanted chicken, thus triggering a series of disputes which are synonymous with the company and it’s eventual downfall.

The soup however wasn’t wasted as it was used to dye the carpets of the soon to be launched Princess model.  The empty tins were used to make Marinas.

The Allegro Super was originally going to be the Allegr Souper, but marketing swapped the ‘o’ about as they thought it would boost sales.  

[CaptainBoom]

in June 1974 in Canada a baby girl was born in the back seat of a car.  The cars owner, Alan and his neighbours, the parents-to-be had set out for the hospital in Alan's Morris Minor.  However, after a tortuous journey involving galloping rot that shrank the car and knackered lever arm dampers, the girl was born before they got to the hospital.

Overjoyed at their new arrival, the parents offered to name the girl after Alan, he declined and suggested that they name it after his now (completely wrecked and much smaller) transport, a compromise was reached.  We know the child now as Alanis Morrisette.

Alan's other car was a 'Ford Irritating Whiney Bitch', which was 'Ironic, don'cha think..?'

[Parky]

On 2/12/2021 at 7:15 AM, sierraman said:

The Aussie singer Tina Arenas 90’s Hit ‘Chains’ was written about her concern about timing belts and her belief in the duplex chains fitted to various German machinery. In fact for the Singapore market it was release with the title ‘Timing Chains’

Interestingly Italian singer Sabrina Claudio had a hit with “Orions Belt” which she wrote following an order cock up by ECP when she ordered an air filter for her diesel Passat.

[Talbot]

On 2/11/2021 at 6:15 PM, sierraman said:

The Aussie singer Tina Arenas 90’s Hit ‘Timing Chains’

That is now all I will ever hear when that comes on the radio.

Bastard/Genius.

[JeeExEll]

In 1969 Roy Haynes was working for Morris designing a Escort Mk1 rival.  Haynes had a fascination with one particular Gerry Anderson tv series which was around at the time and wanted to call the new car the 'Morris Stingray'.  Both Gerry Anderson and General Motors strongly objected.

He suggested an alternative, the dynamic sounding 'Morris Troy-Tempest', but this met with similar objections, particularly from GM Pontiac.

The 'Morris Anderson' suggestion failed to raise much interest.

Eventually Haynes found a compromise and Morris ended up paying 5p to Gerry Anderson for every one of the new models made.

 

In 1980, in a desperate attempt to cut costs, BL renamed the car 'Ital' to save on royalty expenses, and life for Gerry Anderson was never quite the same after that.  He was allowed to keep his 1979 coupe forever though, previously part of a new-car-every-year concession agreed in 1971.

[vulgalour]

3 hours ago, JeeExEll said:

In 1980, in a desperate attempt to cut costs, BL renamed the car 'Ital' to save on royalty expenses

This does a lot to debunk the other reason given that Ital is two letters shorter than Marina so BL could save on the cost of letters, especially when you consider that about the same time they bumped Princess up by two letters to Ambassador.  Nice to get some real facts on these things.

[anonymous user]

1 hour ago, vulgalour said:

This does a lot to debunk the other reason given that Ital is two letters shorter than Marina so BL could save on the cost of letters, especially when you consider that about the same time they bumped Princess up by two letters to Ambassador.  Nice to get some real facts on these things.

BL made money by dropping the Ital from the range. The Ital design studio originally negotiated what they thought was a good deal, for doing the set square remodel on the Marina; however they regretted it later and felt that they had damaged their brand. To try to save face, they allegedly returned the design fee, plus a bonus, on the promise that BL would stop making it.

[inconsistant]

Tina Arena’s full name is Cortina Arena. Her sister Reenie Arena’s full name is Marina Arena. 
 

edit to add, previous comments about the meaning of the song ‘chains’ are wrong. Listen to the first verse and it’s clear the song is about the first time Tina got caught out and had to fit snowchains:

‘Your boot is warm but they make me feel,
As if they're made of cold, cold steel,
A simple fit like a turnin' key,
A little click and the lock's on me.
 

But in snow, baby
I'm in chains
I'm in chains“

 

[Parky]

8 hours ago, inconsistant said:

Tina Arena’s full name is Cortina Arena. Her sister Reenie Arena’s full name is Marina Arena. 
 

edit to add, previous comments about the meaning of the song ‘chains’ are wrong. Listen to the first verse and it’s clear the song is about the first time Tina got caught out and had to fit snowchains:

‘Your boot is warm but they make me feel,
As if they're made of cold, cold steel,
A simple fit like a turnin' key,
A little click and the lock's on me.
 

But in snow, baby
I'm in chains
I'm in chains“

 

You forgot her other sister, Wembley.  She was a huge fan of Desmodronic valves eliminating both belts and chains

[Formula Autos]

When the Maestro was delayed yet again in 1981, BL ended up with a crate of voice synthesiser microchips lying around. These had been bought in advance of Maestro production as the same chip was used in the BBC Micro computer; BL feared that if that became a sales success they would struggle to source the chips required for top of the range Maestros.
 

The Allegro was still in production at this point, so a plan was hatched to launch a special edition Allegro Micro, using the chips and their speech capability, and using the owl logo that the BBC were using to promote the Micro as the logo for this special edition. The interior plastics of the car were to be in the same off-white plastic as the Micro computer, with black instrument surrounds and a smattering of red buttons - to ape the colour scheme of the computer. Owners were also to be given a money-off voucher to buy a discounted BBC micro with, and an owners manual was also to be supplied on a data cassette that could be viewed via a BBC Micro. 

The voice chip was to have the dulcit tones of Ian McNaught-Davis, who at the time was presenting The Computer Programme, where the BBC Micro was being promoted.
 

External paint colours would have been limited to off-white, black or red, and a choice of one of the other colours as a contrasting front grille. 
 

The BBC refused to license the owl logo and name though, so this idea was only ever realised in three prototypes (all were four door versions - though two door and estate versions would have been available had this edition reached production). The bugs in the Maestro’s speech chip were worked out in these cars, which were used by lower management as pool cars/test hacks, and their use led to additional features like seatbelt warnings being tried and tested by the time of the Maestro’s eventual launch.

[Formula Autos]

On 2/16/2021 at 10:55 AM, JeeExEll said:

In 1969 Roy Haynes was working for Morris designing a Escort Mk1 rival.  Haynes had a fascination with one particular Gerry Anderson tv series around at the time and wanted to call the new car the 'Morris Stingray'.  Both Gerry Anderson and General Motors strongly objected.

He suggested an alternative, the dynamic sounding 'Morris Troy-Tempest', but this met with similar objections, particularly from GM Pontiac.

The 'Morris Anderson' suggestion failed to raise much interest.

Eventually Haynes found a compromise and Morris ended up paying 5p to Gerry Anderson for every one of the new models made.

 

In 1980, in a desperate attempt to cut costs, BL renamed the car 'Ital' to save on royalty expenses, and life for Gerry Anderson was never quite the same after that.  He was allowed to keep his 1979 coupe forever though, previously part of a new-car-every-year concession agreed in 1971.

The model sat in the Marina is Ayshea Brough, is it not? 
 

She appeared in Gerry Anderson’s series UFO (in fact it’s her arse that is pervily lingered on in the title sequence as she walks away from camera, down a corridor of SHADO’s base). 
 

This just further backs up the Gerry Anderson/Marina/Ital connection. 
 

Rumour also has it that the self-driving colour-changing car in Terrahawks, known as Hudson, was originally to have been an Austin Montego. The car was set to be launched around the same time as the series was due to go on air in the UK, and a cross-promotion deal to include the Montego in the show was being worked out with Gerry Anderson’s co-producer Christopher Burr.  Gerry was so incensed with Austin-Rover/BL’s antics in the past though that he tore up the agreement, and so Hudson became a Rolls-Royce.

[chaseracer]

On 17/02/2021 at 07:41, Parky said:

You forgot her other sister, Wembley.  She was a huge fan of Desmodronic valves eliminating both belts and chains

There was another French/German Arena sister, Opel - but she was a bit 'square'...

[Parky]

And Cousin Commerzbank, but he just got a regular job in Frankfurt and keeps himself to himself

[dozeydustman]

Alexandra Stan’s Eurobeat hit ‘Mr Saxobeat’, contrary to popular belief was not written in tribute to the smooth woodwind player, but the rhythmic knock her then boyfriend’s small Citroen made when it threw a big end