For Sale Austin Princess & Renault 6 £550

[D Spares & Tyres]

P S

 

Don`t rush into it, I had a major clear out a few years back and weighed my mums old allegro in amongst some other things. Still regret it now as it wasn`t that bad but there was no love for Allegros in 2005 and it was totally worthless at the time but I really shoud of kept it. Mk5 Cortina and a P6 Rover went too. Tried to sell but nobody wanted any of it so it all got squashed

[vulgalour]

Scrapping is not an option.  If they don't sell, they stay put.  Let the fates decide.

 

 

I'm not doing a raffle.

[Anglevan]

At the end of the day if you have reached your limit then good luck to you. I hope they find good homes.

[plasticvandan]

Will possibly be the best thing for you,I've been in that situation a few times and having the responsibility of owning them lifted from your shoulders is a big relief.

[fred]

Sad to hear, but you know when you have hit the wall. Been there myself Angyl

Time for a different toy mate

[mercrocker]

If I ever win the lottery this is what I will do. Buy up all your shite that gives you grief and keeps you awake at night. Put it in a great big barn and spend the rest of my life and money getting it all proper. Then sell it back to you all at knockdown prices. The amount of love lavished on cars is far higher on this forum than all these glitzy auctions and rubbish telly programmes. I feel your pain, Vulgalour...

[D Spares & Tyres]

Scrapping is not an option.  If they don't sell, they stay put.  Let the fates decide.

 

 

I'm not doing a raffle.

I really didn`t want to but I was losing my storage at time, the barn way being converted and I had to move all my cars. They were advertised cheaply for a month but nobody was interested so they had to go. Was a shame but i had little choice at the time

[vulgalour]

Honestly, I don't want to sell the Princess.  I want to sell the Xantia to fund the Princess' return to the road and keep the Renault for fun tinker time.  That's heart over head right there, that's what got me into this position in the first place and it's why I work too many hours and take on too many responsibilities.  It's finally caught up with me and I have to be logical and rational about it.

 

It sucks.

 

I can't just shut them away, I have nowhere to shut them away.  There will be a constant reminder of the failure, of the fact I cannot do the thing I want to do.  Sometimes, we have to be grown ups.  Not a potential buyer, obviously, but for now I have to be a stupid grown up and I think I hate that part of this the most.

[Inspector Morose]

It's not failure. You saved them. You may not have put them back on the road but you've given them a chance for them to be restored and cherished. Never forget that important fact.

 

P.s been there, done that with much larger machinery. I fully understand.

[mercrocker]

^this....

 

I am ashamed to parade my catalogue of motoring failures on a public forum but in almost every case they went on to better things. If I had not have nurtured some forlorn hope of restoring, enjoying and driving them and spent stupid sums of money in the process without exception they would have been razor blades by now.

[HillmanImp]

Been here several times. Too many cars, not enough time, money, motivation or ability.

 

The Xantia works as a car. Good keep it. You need a car in life these days.

 

The Renault is a shed and will take a fook load of work to get right. Get shot of it.

 

The Princess is okay but needs some work. Will the money you get for it be life changing? Doubt it. Will the cost of storing it bankrupt you or can you just cut back on some fags/booze/scratchcards for a bit to cover the cost of keeping it? Probably.

 

Personally, I would keep it as a project and do when you can.

[vulgalour]

I've been given a strange offer.  I haven't taken it.

 

Sell the Xantia for more than the Renault and Princess.  Spend funds on getting the Princess back on the road by giving it to someone else to do.  Give the Xantia to fund-giver once the Princess is road legal.  Win.

 

Sounds too good to be true, so it probably is.

[Inspector Morose]

 

 

See that? That when I bought it. Throughout a long period of time it bankrupted me and I was forced to sell it on. It got resorted and is now part of a museum collection as the oldest of its type still in existence. Failure? Nah.

 

Look for NOB413M to see what it looks like now.

 

There were more. And they've been restored too. I'm no failure.

[vulgalour]

NOB BUS

 

Also winning.

[Inspector Morose]

I had NOB bus before NOB van was even thought of!

[KruJoe]

Angyl, try to have a good sleep on it tonight and consider that offer (above) before rejecting it.

You're clearly not in a hopeful frame of mind this evening, but there IS hope.

[rml2345]

Andy National is right. You've saved two rare and quirky cars from becoming a nasty out of town shopping barn and saw hope where there was only despair. Cars can't be restored if someone like yourself hasn't saved them first, even if they do end up as spares in the end.

Besides, the Princess can't be owned by anyone else. It would feel like wearing someone else's pants. It's perhaps not the best example but it is yours and seems to be more a part of you now than the ferrous oxide and Lucas smoke it would be to someone else. If you don't hang on to it then it will have to go to the National Trust or something.
The six does need a lot of restoration and I can't blame you for wanting rid of either but Serendipity is one I think you'd really regret parting with. Obviously any decision is yours and will be respected by the Autoshite collective but sleep on it first, you may feel differently tomorrow. 

[vulgalour]

What's making this worse is that this is a decision that's taken me some months to reach, even while I've been working on the Renault.

 

In addition to the previous interesting offer, I've been offered assistance in getting the Princess MoT'd so that I don't sell it.  People, it is warming to read and hear, understand the peculiar value of the car to me.  It's not an easy decision to have got myself to make and it's made no easier by people wanting to change my mind and offer alternative solutions, some of which I've already considered and dismissed.

 

What I really need is a holiday.  I've had 2 proper holidays in the past 20 years.  Maybe I should see about somehow affording another?

[robinmasters]

Unfortunately they're too far away/wrong fuel pump/too French/if only the Princess was green and the Renault beige/etc, otherwise I'd be biting your hand off*. GLWTS.

 

Looks like you're stuck with them.

 

*Unless you'd SWAPZ THE RENO FOR AN XBOX 2NITE M9, NEED IT TO GET 2 WORK TOMORROW, KAN U DEELIVA?

[Uncle Jimmy]

Shite induced temporal malaise I know thee well. The R6 is haunting me.

[dieselassist]

These days,I don't bother with 'holidays' personally; the whole idea of a holiday, is not for me - its what other folk do. I realised this about 3 years ago, after goin away to LaLinea' In spain with 3 old mates Ive known since secondary school... lots of saving up n anticipation, n build up to it... it was a good week away, n all that, n I enjoyed it but it didn't live up to perceived expectations...  about the only upside was the flight home when I met a nice young lady, n we later started going out... the relationship lasted about 6 months, which is 'a good innings' for me relationship wise...

 

Anywiase, holidays?? I just call them trips away, or getting away for a few days, n don't feel the need to do it regularly or at a particular time of year... for me holidays when you think about them, are the realization that yr life is a 'bit shit' and you need to get on a plane to a sunny destination, buy useless overpriced tat, take photos, get drunk, struggle with a foreign language n culture to distract yerself from the drudgery of daily life or reward yourself for somehow battling through it for weeks n months on end, till the time holiday' window comes around again...

 

...I have a good few dead /half dead /started/ not started n halfway through a resto cars about the place here n down my lock up, coupled with one or two actual functioning cars, with one being in use, taxed, insured etc n in daily use; similiarly, a lotta folk tell me 'you'll never finish/get round to that' but it seems to have the opposite effect on me n I hang onto them, n sometimes it actually spurs me on to work on them... theres logic in realising that you are spreading yerself 'too thin' over too many vehicles...

 

...Ive never really sold cars Im totally attached to as my (ill) logic warns me 'I may regret that one day'... I sold my merc 190E as I couldn't bond with it after it been knicked, tho damage was minimal. my old mk1 caddy; I just got a bit sick of it/fell out of love with it, n didn't want to take it to the respray/anonymous shiney car  with whatever rims stage...

 

I say hang onto the princess if you can - you seemed to be getting to grips with that n from what I saw of the thread, were adding 'welding' to your skill set... Your car tinkering threads were/are enjoyable to read; everything well explained etc im sure a lotta folk who lost mojo for their own cars, for a time were inspired to pick up the spanners again after a read through your thread.... anyhow best o luck with whatever you decide/organise...

[Noel Tidybeard]

I'm not doing a raffle.

 

i dont blame you cms only likes ovlovs

[Noel Tidybeard]

What I really need is a holiday.  I've had 2 proper holidays in the past 20 years.  Maybe I should see about somehow affording another?

 

• air bed
• sleeping bag
• tent citroen xebra

what more do you need?

[philibusmo]

Its a damn good job that you're now over 9000 miles away otherwise I'd be readying myself for another ridiculous Princess rescue mission, but this time with the addition of a Renault 6 on an A frame both on their way to a pre-booked MOT.

[barefoot]

It would feel like wearing someone else's pants. 

 

Sell the fucking car, this I have to see!

[plasticvandan]

i cant be arsed to find what i wrote on an earlier thread,but the premise was:if you can manage without wheels for a few weeks,i would sell the citroen and renault,and plough it all in to the princess.

Surely (aside from emotional reasons) the Princess will do everything you need from a car practically as well as rose tintedly? The only reason its in the state its in now is due to lack of time or money,caused by continually buying other cars that distract you,take your time,and take money away from,the Princess?

[vulgalour]

I have slept on it and I'm still in the same place with this decision.

 

Arguments of the heart are all well and good but this is a decision taken with my head.  I'm criticised and commended whichever route I take so rather than seeking approval I'm just seeking a buyer.

 

 

 

It is true that the only car I want to keep of the three is the Princess.  But it's also true that I can't do that unless something changes here which seems unlikely.

[cms206]

Sell up and get a Volvo to play in for a few months. Then export to Scotland and get another Volvo , then another other Volvo. Volvo is the spice of life and can be done very cheaply if done right.

 

*efa

 

 

Sorry to hear about your situation fella, I have two driveways full of hopeless shit but I'm too sentimental and a bit like the Swedish Dogs Trust - I refuse to put a healthy dog down. And all of mine are dogs.

 

As Andy FPB7 and some others have said, you can't unscrap things; when they're gone, they're gone. I played a part in rescuing probably two dozen buses and most of them found homes, if anything I was an intermediate staging point on their journey to greatness; a Princess is much smaller than a bus, thankfully, and I'd think that a North Eastern Shiter could probably put it up for a bit, even just on a driveway with a cat piss tarp over it.

[fordperv]

I was in exactly the same place as you years back with my mk1 3 door sierra when I crashed it after all the work I put into it, all my money was tied up in that and other stuff so I was working my arse off to earn more money so I had no time, I had no welder and I was at breaking point because I had this car that I loved, that I'd saved from the crusher and done so much work on sat there with no chance of me repairing, I didn't want to part with it but i felt I needed to get rid, my mum,dad and mrs fp convinced me to keep it as the car was part of me, so it got covered up and forgot about for a good while, looking back I'm glad they did because a huge part of me would have been lost.

 

I think a large part of you will be gone with the Princess.

 

Not trying to change your mind in any way, at the end of the day it can only be your decision, but remember once it's sold there's no going back so make sure it's a decision your going to be truly happy with

[theorganist]

You obviously have an affinity to the Princess so why not sell the Renault keep the "modern" Xantia and concentrate on the Princess? 

 

I have sold too many cars and regretted it and have kept a couple longer than I should have! Imagine how you will feel in six months or a year wondering where it is? 

 

My biggest regret was selling my Green Maxi HL and when I check on the DVLA database now it shows up as unlicenced, I hope that it is just sitting in someones collection waiting to be resurrected however I dread finding out that it has been scrapped or raced or something and just not declared to the DVLA. It will certainly make me sad if that turns out to be the case. 

 

If you think you will feel like this then maybe that is enough to say I should keep it.! I know they are only a metal box on wheels but some old cars define us and are more than just a tool. 

 

I haven't really gelled with my Princess that much which is why I am selling it however the Talbot makes me smile and I often find myself jumping in it rather than the Princess!

 

That is my view FWIW obviously you need to do what is right for yourself.