Six Cylinders Motoring Notes

[beko1987]

23 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Brakes are overrated.  The tractor doesn't really have any brakes either and nobody's crashed that yet.

If they let one of the tyres go flat it'll brake itself 🤔

[beko1987]

1 hour ago, Mrs6C said:

Mostly the JCB sports a front bucket rather than forks; they were put on for the scrap Gamma loading episode, I think.

It certainly wouldn't hurt it to have working brakes. We have the right size die now to get the wheel studs cleaned up and a socket of the correct size for the wheelnuts, so the front hubs can get some TLC in due course.

Sounds like a job for next year, when your done using it to help with the barn build spend a fod weekend getting it up on sleepers then the next 3 fod weekends overhauling it. Then a 5th to lower it. 

We could all bring a jack, 33 2ton Jack's should lift it easily... 

[Mrs6C]

2 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Brakes are overrated.  The tractor doesn't really have any brakes either and nobody's crashed that yet.

It has one fully working brake! What more do you need? 🙂

[Mrs6C]

4 hours ago, Talbot said:

I drove it in 2nd/3rd gear at barely above idle (IE walking pace), with my hand on the lever ready to shove the forks into the ground as an impromptu anchor, just in case it all went wrong.

It was an excellent bit of parking. No building blocks, Xantias, nuns nor kittens were even worried about the outcome.

[catsinthewelder]

With a bit of luck the hydraulics might be able to lift it up so we just need sleepers and brave shitters to place them.

I wonder if we can use the hydralic power to undo the wheel nuts by lifting it up and letting it down onto a breaker bar?

[High Jetter]

A very slow way of ploughing the field...

[Talbot]

9 hours ago, Mrs6C said:

nuns nor kittens were even worried

The scene from "A matter of loaf and death", Wallace and Gromit I mentioned.

[beko1987]

7 hours ago, catsinthewelder said:

With a bit of luck the hydraulics might be able to lift it up so we just need sleepers and brave shitters to place them.

I wonder if we can use the hydralic power to undo the wheel nuts by lifting it up and letting it down onto a breaker bar?

I volunteer @hairnet

[wuvvum]

51 minutes ago, beko1987 said:

I volunteer @hairnet

As a sleeper?

[beko1987]

7 hours ago, wuvvum said:

As a sleeper?

Well he always goes to bed early so I guess either... 

[Talbot]

16 hours ago, catsinthewelder said:

I wonder if we can use the hydralic power to undo the wheel nuts by lifting it up and letting it down onto a breaker bar?

*snap*

Good news:  the wheel is off.

Bad news:  and so it shall remain until we either get replacement studs and nuts, or weld it back on.

I recon with a die nut to clean up the visible threads, then copious amounts of release fluid, some heat and a rattle gun to work the nuts back and forth, they'll come undone.  Will take a fair while though I recon.

[hairnet]

8 hours ago, wuvvum said:

As a sleeper?

 

1 hour ago, beko1987 said:

Well he always goes to bed early so I guess either... 

listening to daves  stories - surprise??? :P

[2cvspecial]

On 9/14/2020 at 6:57 PM, richardmorris said:

Autoshite Wurzels- I’ve got a brand new working dumper truck.

and i snapped the key  , pored cider in fuel tank

Edited November 29, 2020 by 2cvspecial
spelling mistake (pored ) - Poured

[Talbot]

7 hours ago, 2cvspecial said:

and i snapped the key  , pored cider in fuel tank

"cider".

😏

[wuvvum]

I wonder if the dumper would go faster with a tankful of Mrs6C's finest?

[LightBulbFun]

22 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

I wonder if the dumper would go faster with a tankful of Mrs6C's finest?

if the dumper does not, then the Model 70's should do

it says right on the bonnet "2 Star Only" and im pretty sure most shitters rated @Mrs6C's finest at far more then 2 stars!

[2cvspecial]

10 hours ago, wuvvum said:

I wonder if the dumper would go faster with a tankful of Mrs6C's finest?

yes i hope so

[Six-cylinder]

The Milk float got a run out today, well 10 yards on the end of a rope to allow a water pipe to be trenched in. We are still looking for a set of affordable batteries for it.

The tyre on the JCB has held up.

I looked at the wiper motor on the JCB and did not recognise it, anybody know of any other applications?

I am sure there is somebody who would rush from Wales to fit it if I could find one!

[LightBulbFun]

11 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

We are still looking for a set of affordable batteries for it.

find another suitable 60V milk float motor, strap it to an XUD engine, install the lot in the bed of the float, connect the output of the now 60V Generator to the battery terminals in the float

and bam your very own diesel electric locomotive!

[dollywobbler]

Hybrid FTW.

[LightBulbFun]

was just thinking if you replace the XUD with a Commer knocker TS3 then bam MicroDeltic! 

(disappointed I did not think of that for my original  comment LOL)

[dozeydustman]

@Six-cylinder from my (limited) knowledge of tractors I think the motors only vary in sweep angle and spindle depth; the one fitted to your JCB looks very similar to the one on the little Kubota I used to mow a rugby pitch with.

Some come with a second dummy spindle for the pantograph arm, and some pantograph arms are fixed to the cab structure.

https://www.agrilineproducts.com/parts-by-category/cab-parts/wiper-system/wiper-motors

Might be something similar on there, but you would probably need to remove it from the cab to get your dimensions.

Is your JCB a 3C?

[hairnet]

ax or visa wiper motor?

[Six-cylinder]

14 minutes ago, dozeydustman said:

@Six-cylinder from my (limited) knowledge of tractors I think the motors only vary in sweep angle and spindle depth; the one fitted to your JCB looks very similar to the one on the little Kubota I used to mow a rugby pitch with.

Some come with a second dummy spindle for the pantograph arm, and some pantograph arms are fixed to the cab structure.

https://www.agrilineproducts.com/parts-by-category/cab-parts/wiper-system/wiper-motors

Might be something similar on there, but you would probably need to remove it from the cab to get your dimensions.

Is your JCB a 3C?

Yes a 1978 3C

I think the plan is to wait until spring and first check it is getting power. If it is, then remove the motor and open it up to see if it can be fixed. If it can't be fixed then I will be looking for a cheap replacement, original or other wiper motor adapted.

 

[wuvvum]

19 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

was just thinking if you replace the XUD with a Commer knocker TS3 then bam MicroDeltic! 

(disappointed I did not think of that for my original  comment LOL)

Why go for half measures?  I'm sure you could fit an 18-pot Napier onto that flatbed with only a little* bit of overhang.

[Six-cylinder]

2 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Why go for half measures?  I'm sure you could fit an 18-pot Napier onto that flatbed with only a little* bit of overhang.

I have been lusting after a Detroit two stroke diesel and this seems an ideal application!

[dozeydustman]

Those tractor wiper motors are very simple things, hopefully a bit of penetrating oil, a strip down and reassembly with new brushes and a clean of the commutator should get it back into life if power is present. 

Agriline is who I used for the tractor service & repair parts when I did the grass cutting as they're one of the few places that catered for the Ford x600 series and Kubota L245 at a decent price. They also cater for your Massey 35 as well.

[Six-cylinder]

Today I pulled up outside @Zelandeth house as he was going to follow me over to the Alfa specialist in Northampton to give me a lift back.

Sitting outside his house were his Motor Caravan, Xantia Activa and XJS, which one would he use! I was routing for the XJS and my luck was in, I have been out in a chauffeur driven XJS today, thanks Zel.

The black  156 saloon was dropped off as it is due an MOT, front shocker, CV boots, engine check light sorting and bulb failure in spite of all lights working.

I got a call yesterday to say the silver 156 Sportswagon was ready to pick up with a fresh MOT and gear linkage freed up so I could find all the gears again easily. Different garage in case you are wondering why I was having Zel chauffeur me around.

Miffed I failed to take a picture of my chauffeur driven XJS.

So here is a more general view of the Spice hut where I like to snap cars and got the silver 156 on the way home.

[Andyrew]

Finally, VP progress. 

Unfortunately at work we had a covid problem, so some isolating was required.  Anyway, today i dropped the tank out ready for the leaking sender replacement and for me to crack on with welding near the tank.  Amazingly all the bolts came out lovely.

Hmmmmm its very very crusty, but whilst its heavily pitted all over, the only leak was from the sender itself andd with the Fuel drained out into cans and a quick inspection inside suggests its nice and clean in there. 

I knocked the sender retaining ring out and removed the old sender.  I then cut the top part off a spray can lid and made a blank to lob in the hole with the retaining ring to hold it in place,  with that and the filler neck taped up i whipped over it with some 60 grit paper to knock the loose rust off, it was then brushed off and wiped down with brake cleaner 

Out with brush and the bonda primer. One light coat, once touch dry i gave it a heavier coat. 

Ill leave it to dry for few days as its rather cold in the workshop and once thats dry ill give it a quick key and slap on a couple of coats of some tractor enamel paint.

With the tank's first coat drying i modded the MGB sender to match the VP one.  As advised by the allegro club. 

An inch or so off the end and a slight bend on the float rod sorted.  

 

[LightBulbFun]

28 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

I was routing for the XJS and my luck was in, I have been out in a chauffeur driven XJS today, thanks Zel.

yeah count yourself lucky!

maybe next time you pull up outside Zel's for a lift you will find him sitting in TPA, applying a strip of electrical tape diagonally across the "Passenger carrying is forbidden" plaque!