Loosing the will to sell a car.

[HH-R]

I can see this ending in abusive text messages saying BOUGHT THIS CAR OFF YOU 6 YEARS AGO AND A BRAKE LIGHT BULB BLEW RESULTING IN ME BEING REAR ENDED, YOU NOW OWE ME £1000000000 IN DAMAGES BUT WILL SETTLE FOR £10,000 C U IN COURT M8

[xtriple]

I must admit I'd kill this sale stone dead. Arseholes remain arseholes and she will be a pain in your arse unless you kill it or lay the law down strongly.

 

I suggest the former.

[sierraman]

If its a £500 car my main concern would be whether I might get a years worth out of it - not a thorough examination of some crusty old dog eared MOT certificates. I'm probably going to upset someone here but what was he thinking bringing the wife to look over an old Audi?

 

I'd tell them to fuck off with their £100

[Lord Sterling]

Yo Prince_Vince. Like everyone else has said. Kill this sale and cut ties with them, that will almost guarantee you less hassle in the future. If the woman thinks you'll get taken by some bullshit sob-story, she'll definitely think you are a walk-over/key to free money and sympathy. People like that often lead sad lives, the only way to get some sort of entertainment is by bullying people. This'll only be the start.

 

Do the right thing Prince_Vince. The collective speaks.

[Taff]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en1uwIzI3SE

[inconsistant]

I think she sounds alright actually and you should let her have the car for whatever they can afford and give them plenty of time to get the money together. Not really, I just got bored of reading four pages of the same good advice.

 

On old shite cars I've bought in the past its said something like 'sold as seen with all faults, visible and hidden' or something like that, which is a good reminder that buyer beware and the moment I buy it I take on the problems. Because its a cheap car.

 

GLWTMentalists.

[Alan_Green]

• Agreed.  66 posts all saying the same sensible thing. And all too polite to mention the Audi in the room (spelling).

What this forum needs is a good rude troll.

I think you should cut her a break. She is in debt. Her sister is ill. You should have offered to deliver it for £350. £100 now, the rest when she can.

[EssDeeWon]

Having read through some of Vince's comments again about this woman...

 

• Complains an MOT certificate is not in chronological order
• Indicator stalk and various buttons are in the wrong place
• Vanity light on sunviser is dangerous
• Starts crying
• They knew they were coming to view a £500 car so they roll up with only £100
• Followed by a sob story about her sister

 

hmmmmm im not sure about this.

 

I hope im wrong for Vince's sake.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Was she fit?

Maybe you could come to an arrangement* for any shortfall in cash.

Sounds like she was flirting with you and you just didn't interpret the messages properly.

Just watch out for hubby in th wardrobe with the camera and Vaseline.

[Junkman]

..the car was supposed to be for him as he needed it for work.

 

Are you sure he knows what that is?

[Junkman]

Arseholes remain arseholes and she will be a pain in your arse unless you kill her or lay her strongly.

 

I suggest the latter.

 

EFA

[dugong]

It's Vince's decision, but on reading the posts back he seems to think he's obligated to go through with the deal for some reason.

Either she's an unhinged grasper, or I'm too lenient; my MX-3 was accurately described bar a dead shock (and a potentially more serious problem I didn't discover until several weeks into ownership) and I'm not about to lose sight of the fact that it's a £360 car that's done everything I've asked of it. With the Citroen out of action until next Tuesday at the earliest, I've had to rely on that Mazda rather more than I'd have liked to for a car with no service history, but expectations have to be adjusted accordingly.

Buying or selling, the best mindset probably lies between these two bases. 

Sadly, thanks to a warped sense of entitlement most people nowadays, brassic or otherwise 'want a minter for fuck all', to borrow an Autoshite soundbite. The saddest thing of all is that Vince's car sounds excellent for the money, with very few similary priced cars able to get a look in. That this hosebeast was determined to find fault says it all, really. 

That said, I'd still like the log book for my bloody Mazda. It's been too long now.....

[Vince70]

Well I think it's been one of those weeks with fake plastic policemen and with the job loss plus now I get a neurotic car buyer with no money but it's not all bad as I have got some free screen wash from work lol.

 

At least the other A4 only failed on a couple of track rod ends and a cv gaiter so that one will also be going up for sale next week once I get it back from the garage after the mot and repairs , I just don't want another buyer like this one.

 

This one has lower mileage and is a lot newer and does drive nice but it's not as well put together as the earlier car but has the bling and toys etc but it doesn't make it a better car in engineering terms and isn't as straight also it hasn't got the service history of the earlier A4 but the mileage can be checked online..

 

Anyone know what I should put a tidy looking 2000/2001 A4 up for with 58000 on the clock and with a years ticket.

 

This is it.

I only paid £225 for it as it was meant to of needed a new cat and a ecu and was told a couple of sensors but it ended up just needing a new MAF unit and a coolant sensor.

 

The only problem I can think of with this car is I only have one key and it's not the remote one so its central locking only.

 

But I've been doing regular 100 mile trips in this car once a week and it drives superb and I've been using it on a daily basis for work and it doesn't use a drop of oil or water.

 

I did tell the young lad and his dad about the car and both popped over and he loves it ( really nice genuine people) as he popped straight round and went for a drive in it but I told him to check insurance quotes first as it will cripple him on insurance compared to the earlier car, also I told him I'm not in a hurry to sell as it's got to have its new ticket put on first so think about it before buying it.

 

Even I paid an extra £80 on my insurance for the remaining 6 months on this car over the 1.6 and I only pay about £160 a year on insurance so I would hate to think what it would cost a young lad in his early 20s who's recently had a claim.

[Bren]

You are not YES car credit.

 

You do not offer finance to the great unwashed.

 

It is not your fault the wife is stark raving mad.

 

It is not your fault the husband has no bollocks.

 

Just sell the car and give them their deposit back - the next thing she will ask is if they can pay weekly.

 

If they have no fucking money they should'nt be wasting your time - tell them to walk or get a bastard bus.

[bub2006]

About 4 years ago me and the wife had a ford escort estate on a w plate. Rattle canned back bumper,dent in osr quarter and a new sill not long on it. About par for the course for a 10 year old exhaust that had been used by her ex husband doing about 600mile a week. I advertised it in paper and explained issues. Anyone that called and asked what was the lowest I told them to view and show me some cash rather than haggling over the phone. A couple turned up in a battered 806 with their "mechanic" friend. Went through the car with a fine tooth comb. Test drove it and was happy. Settled on 450 quid seeing as the tax was due at end of month but had test for 6 month. They wanted to leave a deposit and collect later. Left me a deposit of £250 so quiet a good sum. Turned up to collect on the day they said too at the time they said which was nice. The wife then pointed out the tax was due to expire. I told her it was stated in the add and she seen it when she viewed it last. A bit of sulking from her when I wouldn't drop price as nymore Than what we already agreed but she eventually paid up. Off she went and that's when the trouble started. Starting from ten minutes after she left till 4 days later she was ringing up with problem after problem. Funnily enough everything equated to the cost of a years tax and maybe a part worn tyre as I said and shown them a tyre was not the best. Mechanic mate was the last to ring. Threatened me with court and solicitors as I had deliberately sold a death trap to a poor unwitting buyer. All this would be ignored though if I refunded road tax cost. Told him in no uncertain terms to go forth and multiply and I would wait for solicitors or court letters. Never heard anything again from them. Sounds like you will be on the same path. I wont sell car if shit like this happens now.

[Angrydicky]

That's the great thing about owning 25+ year old cars, usually they're too old and unfashionable for this type of cretin so you generally get a better class of punter when you come to sell. In my experience anyway.

[Vince70]

Well if push comes to shove the couple won't be having the car if there's even the slightest suggestion of money off as it will be push the deposit back in their hand and a firm door slammed in their face.

 

When I showed them the bills I had spent and told them when I worked full time I didn't hesitate on spending £500 a year on servicing repairs and MOT advisories to keep her in A1 condition.

 

I was met with it better not cost us that as we don't have money and tried to explain its just the general cost of car ownership and if you want to keep a car in good order you have to spend money.

 

To be honest I'm really hoping that the couple play up on Tuesday as the car will go back in my garage till the new year or a shiter can have it.

 

It's just that now that the couple have wasted my weekend I don't have anytime for other viewings now till the new year.

[chaseracer]

Vince: read back over the last four pages.  

 

Deposit or not, you owe nothing to these knuckle-dragging losers and you certainly have no obligation to sell to them what sounds like an excellent car.  Minimise your pain.  Return their ton ASAP and sack them off.

 

Please.  Do it now.

[gordonbennet]

Vince i can only agree with all the others, and i'd go one stage further, i'd ring them to make sure they are in and drive over to their address now (that'll be a bloody interesting discovery) and hand them their £100 back, and get your dad or someone to record it quietly on video as proof, cos they sure as hell aint going to want to sign for receiving the money back.

 

I really wouldn't these twats turning up and claiming you've cost them £x in fuel and time when the sale falls through cos the apparent female is wearing her old mans bollocks as earrings.

 

The general public piss me right off, and these bastards and their like are breeding like rabbits.

[DS20]

I don't mean this unkindly, but if the buyers a. don't have spannerz skillz (which seems likely given they think an A4 has oddly-placed indicators and dangerous vanity lights), and b. baulk at spending £500 on annual servicing and maintenance on a not-brand-new car, they probably oughtn't be buying a car full stop. Give 'em their money back ASAP. Tell them the truth, and if that's not enough, embellish it. Say that you've discovered that the car has potentially lethal front-wheel drive, or something.

[Bamboocarman]

About 4 years ago me and the wife had a ford escort estate on a w plate. Rattle canned back bumper,dent in osr quarter and a new sill not long on it. About par for the course for a 10 year old exhaust that had been used by her ex husband doing about 600mile a week. I advertised it in paper and explained issues. Anyone that called and asked what was the lowest I told them to view and show me some cash rather than haggling over the phone. A couple turned up in a battered 806 with their "mechanic" friend. Went through the car with a fine tooth comb. Test drove it and was happy. Settled on 450 quid seeing as the tax was due at end of month but had test for 6 month. They wanted to leave a deposit and collect later. Left me a deposit of £250 so quiet a good sum. Turned up to collect on the day they said too at the time they said which was nice. The wife then pointed out the tax was due to expire. I told her it was stated in the add and she seen it when she viewed it last. A bit of sulking from her when I wouldn't drop price as nymore Than what we already agreed but she eventually paid up. Off she went and that's when the trouble started. Starting from ten minutes after she left till 4 days later she was ringing up with problem after problem. Funnily enough everything equated to the cost of a years tax and maybe a part worn tyre as I said and shown them a tyre was not the best. Mechanic mate was the last to ring. Threatened me with court and solicitors as I had deliberately sold a death trap to a poor unwitting buyer. All this would be ignored though if I refunded road tax cost. Told him in no uncertain terms to go forth and multiply and I would wait for solicitors or court letters. Never heard anything again from them. Sounds like you will be on the same path. I wont sell car if shit like this happens now.

Exactly ! This is why all of my cheap motors are given to or sold on to friends or recycled. Vince, just give the fookers their money back, and sell it to the nice lad, please for your peace of mind.

[RoadworkUK]

On the basis of OMG Itz an AUDI, also LOW MILEAGE etc, I'd be putting the 1.8 up for a bag of sand. Too low into three digits and you run the risk of magnetically attracting a whole new cohort of brassic chancers who "know their rights" and are close personal friends with Dominic Littlewood or whatever.

 

In fact, it starts looking better and better in each of the three identical images you posted. I would, though, edit the post which states that you bought it for £225 and correct it to the actual £2250 you really paid, just in case somebody traces back and accuses you of making a profit.

[Station]

You've got the perfect ally in your dad. If you don't want to do it, he seems more than happy to tell them to FRO.

 

Get your dad to pretend he's you, and then get him to claim the 100 deposit ordeal has aged your future self 30 years. Then give them the 100 quid back.

[PiperCub]

Please call them up and return the £100.  Their next step will be they need the car but can't afford it all or some other shyster piece.

As a privateer, never hold a car or take a deposit.  Cash really is King (all of it) and the first deal is really the best.

Incidentally the first sign of ragging the car is when you ask the test pilot to pull over and return the keys (never be out of the car when the keys aren't under your control), then give them directions to find their car/bus stop from there.

 

Exactly, if they are too stupid to know a good deal when they see it then it's their loss - idiots. Personally I'd return their money & either tell them directly to 'Do one' or say the car has a potentially terrible fault & you don't want to rip them off - that should prevent them giving any problems. I've no patience for time-wasting losers I'm afraid.

 

As concerns money, I have no interest in your private life, sorry, you are here to buy a car not make a friend so don't give me any sob stories about your auntie Mary's leg operation or your credit card debts mean you won't eat this week etc etc. I do not care, if moneys so short, WTF are you buying a car? Sort your priorities out.  

 

Further - Under £2K - I really expect cash to be honest, I don't think it's much to ask. Under a grand? Of course it's cash! Seriously, I'm not pissing about with cheques and waiting umpteen days for the idiots in the banks to clear it (potentially not clearing so you've told other buyers it's sold by then) for that amount of money. In fact, I expect you to have it with you, I don't want to hear any crap about waiting for payday, or you mate who owes you £xx quid, you don't go to the supermarket and say you'll pay them in a few days do you?

 

I expect others to behave as I do when buying a car: Go and view, ask the Q's, check the papers, check the car, test drive if it's good/say 'Sorry not interested' if not, haggle the price, pay cash, take it away.  It's not difficult is it? I'm sure most on here are like that.

I never expect folk to keep a car for me without deposit, if I take a deposit, it's at least 10% which I tell them is not refundable if they back out or don't come up with the cash the next working day. If the baulk at this then I return the deposit, tell them to come back with the full amount ASAP but the car potentially could be sold in the meantime - it's your move basically. This works for me & yes, I can be an arse to deal with!!!!

[cort16]

I've left deposits on loads of car like this. I very rarely rock up and drive the car away as I have arrange a lift and insurance.

They sound like knobs but I recon there's a 95% chance it'll be fine.

If they don't come for it tell them you'll give them their deposit back as you've got someone else interested.

[Anglevan]

Don't write your own receipt. Go on the AA website and download their private sale template. Print 2 copies and make them sign both. I've done this for last 2 years only had one guy comeback so I told him to read the receipt, that was the last I heard from him.

[purplebargeken]

Here you go:

 

http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-buyers-guide/cbg_sellerscontract.html

[barefoot]

Has anyone suggested telling them that the gearbox has been stolen yet?

[EssDeeWon]

If you are going to sell it to them then make sure you do this soon straight after they leave;

 

1.Cross all your fingers

2.Cross all your toes

3.Cross your legs

4.Change your phone number

5.Get a new Identity

6.Pray the Audi never goes wrong in their ownership

 

Then you'll be fine 

[Bren]

Vince if they start threatening you with solicitors go one better and threaten them with a garden shovel. This works every time for me.