Cars you didn't know existed until very recently.

[bolognasal spray]

Dellow mkI - saw one at Fimber cafe the other week and had no idea what the hell it was. Apparently it was intended for off-road use.

 

[somewhatfoolish]

Is it not basically a Ford Pop in a posh frock? Pretty little things.

[barrett]

It's a Ford 10 engine in a chassis made from surplus rocket tubes. No shit. They were supposed to be dual purpose road and sprint/trials cars, in an era when very few trials specials were really suitable for sustained road use. I know somebody who dailied his in the '60s but it didn't sound particularly civilised

[bunglebus]

 

 

Perodua Myvi. I had no idea etc

[Supernaut]

IES Superamerica

 

 

Argentinian-built 2CV, mildly updated for the 1980s.

[mercrocker]

It's a Ford 10 engine in a chassis made from surplus rocket tubes. No shit. They were supposed to be dual purpose road and sprint/trials cars, in an era when very few trials specials were really suitable for sustained road use. I know somebody who dailied his in the '60s but it didn't sound particularly civilised

  

An ex-girlfriend's dad's accountant (bit convoluted, I know) did exactly this for 25 years that I know of.   He bought an A40 Devon for really bad-weather days but didn't like it.   Last time I saw him (a couple of summers ago) he had the most delapidated flat-nose Cowley outside the shop.   He still has the Dellow.

[mercrocker]

Apologies for this not being a car.   Even more apologies and grovelling for it's new-ness but I saw one of these outside our CoOp today and a small drip of wantage oozed into my underpants... 

 

 

 

 

Fuck me they are dear, though

 

 

 

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bultaco+electric+bike&rlz=1C1CHBD_en-GBGB689GB689&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjqv-yY_t3dAhVKXMAKHRK6Cv4Q_AUIDygC&biw=1536&bih=755#imgrc=KLNSWxevmWD1JM:

[JeeExEll]

Mk1 Granada with the 2.8i engine. Totally new one to me.

I didn't think the 2.8i arrived in the Granada till the TRX-wheeled Mk2s of late 1977, even in Germany. I can't translate German, was this a special / tuned version of the German-spec Mk1?

[mercrocker]

Hmmm...Wonder if the Mk1 "Traveller" was being advertised as a run-out edition available alongside the new Mk2 range?   Mustard mitt, I never thought any Mk1 had the 2.8i either

[bunglebus]

Didn't know you could get an X2, but then I don't care much either

 

 

Mercedes GLC. Exciting*

 

 

Sunsundegui from the land of the rising yen

 

[R9UKE]

I think the X2 is one of the less ugly crossover plagues that have taken over.  BMW have a ridiculously huge range at the moment which is great to see.  

[martc]

Sunsundegui from the land of the rising yen

 

 

Cough from the land of the rising Euro cough

 

They're made in Spain, at Alsasua, near the French border. Founded in 1944 to repair railway coaches, when RENFE opened their own carriage repair works Sunsundegui diversified into building road coaches (obvious transferable skills). There's quite a few in the UK, using Volvo underpinnings.

 

 

 

see https://www.sunsundegui.com/

[mercrocker]

I'd seen those coaches and assumed they were Chinese, too.  

[drivewaymyway]

This is going to sound dumb so I hope someone can help me out here ( I'm not good at remembering things, especially names ), a bloke asked me what AS means on the sticker on my car so I told him, he said he had a 1970 Jag in 1976 that turned out to be a rare beast ( but I can't remember the name of it ) he said it was twinned skinned and looked like new from the outside but rusted to ferk on the inside and after that he bought a German car that he loved and he explained it was made by one of the sons of Porsche as a 'side line', the cars had female names, he sold it because it was very rusty.. Oim not ffik.. Just got a head full of cold and can't remember nuffink ... ( My excuse )..

[cms206]

The first Sunsundegui Siderals came to the UK in 2002 with the first Volvo B12M and B12B chassis; the current SC7 is a facelift of that model. They also do an SC5 midicoach and an SB3? dual purpose bus on the B8R in the UK.

 

In Europe they come on various chassis but over here they're Volvo only.

 

I worked for a company who ended up with ten or so SC7s on B11R chassis. Build quality on them is best described as "marginal" and the older Siderals are prone to water ingress.

 

It appears I've only ever taken one photo of a Sideral, JIB 3032 with John Bennett of Kilwinning; it was new to Dick, Slough as GN53 HOL.

 

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[RoadworkUK]

 the cars had female names, he sold it because it was very rusty.. Oim not ffik.. Just got a head full of cold and can't remember nuffink ... ( My excuse )..

 

Borgward Isabella?

[Finlandia]

This is going to sound dumb so I hope someone can help me out here ( I'm not good at remembering things, especially names ), a bloke asked me what AS means on the sticker on my car so I told him, he said he had a 1970 Jag in 1976 that turned out to be a rare beast ( but I can't remember the name of it ) he said it was twinned skinned and looked like new from the outside but rusted to ferk on the inside and after that he bought a German car that he loved and he explained it was made by one of the sons of Porsche as a 'side line', the cars had female names, he sold it because it was very rusty.. Oim not ffik.. Just got a head full of cold and can't remember nuffink ... ( My excuse )..

 

Monica? Anglo-French effort.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_(automobile)

 

 

[martc]

I'd seen those coaches and assumed they were Chinese, too.  

 

Sunsundegui defiantly has an 'oriental' twang to it.

 

How about Rieju motorbikes? Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

None of the above - they're Spanish as well. Quite an old company, established in 1934 by Luis Riera Carré and Jaime Juanola Farrés to make bicycle accessories, followed by whole push bikes, and then in 1947 they made their first motorbike. They've won a few competitions in their time and are regarded as being 'not bad'. Current models use Yamaha engines from 50cc to 200cc.

 

[GeordieInExile]

That Monica is absolutely stunning.

[Bianconeri]

Mk1 Granada with the 2.8i engine. Totally new one to me.

I didn't think the 2.8i arrived in the Granada till the TRX-wheeled Mk2s of late 1977, even in Germany. I can't translate German, was this a special / tuned version of the German-spec Mk1?

(sorry for huge pic but resizing it blurred the text in the pic)

 

 

Sondermodell - 'special model' (limited edition in English I'd say), so at a guess this is a desirable end of production model. Possibly a shortage of the old V6 at the end of production and a need to ramp up and test production of the new V6 (pure speculation on my part).

[Tamworthbay]

Sunsundegui defiantly has an 'oriental' twang to it.

 

How about Rieju motorbikes? Chinese, Taiwanese or Korean?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

None of the above - they're Spanish as well. Quite an old company, established in 1934 by Luis Riera Carré and Jaime Juanola Farrés to make bicycle accessories, followed by whole push bikes, and then in 1947 they made their first motorbike. They've won a few competitions in their time and are regarded as being 'not bad'. Current models use Yamaha engines from 50cc to 200cc.

 

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That looks the mutts nuts, why aren’t hordes of 17 year olds buying these?

[JeeExEll]

^ Thanks Bianconery, Mercrocker also came to that conclusion. In all my years of Ford geekery I'd never heard of it till yesterday. I thought the German Granadas used the 2.6 Cologne, and (possibly) a 2.8 carb for around 1976/7 but injection?? You could get German Capris with the Essex 3-litre but I don't know if 3.0 Granadas were available.

Which leads onto the question - which Mk1 models could be bought with ths 2.8i? A 'S' model like the UK 3000S? A Ghia? A Ghia coupe?

May be worth checking out if 1977 German Ford brochures are on the net.

[cros]

The Stout Scarab, b. 1932, said to be the world's first MPV. It definitely nailed the ugly look though having a wheezy sidevalve V8 stuck up its arse failed to catch on.

[busmansholiday]

Cough from the land of the rising Euro cough

 

They're made in Spain, at Alsasua, near the French border. Founded in 1944 to repair railway coaches, when RENFE opened their own carriage repair works Sunsundegui diversified into building road coaches (obvious transferable skills). There's quite a few in the UK, using Volvo underpinnings.

 

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see https://www.sunsundegui.com/

They also built the railcars for the Benidorm to Denia narrow gauge system in Spain. Build quality, err not the same as the old heaps that ran this line.

[drivewaymyway]

Borgward Isabella?

That's the Badger !! Borgward Isabella, he took great pains to force the 'w' as a 'V'.. LOL.. were they any good ? 

[RayMK]

That's the Badger !! Borgward Isabella, he took great pains to force the 'w' as a 'V'.. LOL.. were they any good ? 

 

Yes.  Nicely built, good looking, independent suspension all round and a good engine.  They were a quite popular purchase by UK servicemen stationed in Germany (BAOR) - those that could afford one!

[TripleRich]

The injected Mk1 Granada was only available for about a year or so.  The Granada was basically developed by the Germans during the big rivalry between the two divisions of Ford which eventually resulted in all design and production being controlled by the Cologne side.  Mk1 Granada production in Britain didn't last long and stopped some time before the Mk2 came out.

 

All LHD cars were equipped with engines not offered in the UK.

 

LHD Mk1                        RHD MK1

 

1.7 Taunus V4                2.0 Essex V4

2.0 Pinto I4                     2.0 Pinto I4      

2.0 Cologne V6              2.5 Essex V6

2.3 Cologne V6              3.0 Essex V6

2.6 Cologne V6              5.0 V8 - South African models only

2.8 Cologne V6

2.8i Cologne V6

 

The 2.8i engine first appeared on the last year of Mk1s and was then offered from launch on the Mk2 in either S or GL trim.

[stormee]

The injected Mk1 Granada was only available for about a year or so.  The Granada was basically developed by the Germans during the big rivalry between the two divisions of Ford which eventually resulted in all design and production being controlled by the Cologne side.  Mk1 Granada production in Britain didn't last long and stopped some time before the Mk2 came out.

 

All LHD cars were equipped with engines not offered in the UK.

 

LHD Mk1                        RHD MK1

 

1.7 Taunus V4                2.0 Essex V4

2.0 Pinto I4                     2.0 Pinto I4      

2.0 Cologne V6              2.5 Essex V6

2.3 Cologne V6              3.0 Essex V6

2.6 Cologne V6              5.0 V8 - South African models only

2.8 Cologne V6

2.8i Cologne V6

 

The 2.8i engine first appeared on the last year of Mk1s and was then offered from launch on the Mk2 in either S or GL trim.

The 2,8i was launched in September 1976 and that was the first time the engine size was marked on the bootlid instead of the front wings (model-engine-trim level) which became standard by all 1978 (late 1977 models). The Granada was the only model featuring the 2,8i and only available in Ghia fashion. Later on this engine replaced both 3litre-engines as we all know.

[stonedagain]

No photo (I'm sure everyone knows what a LHD K11 Micra looks like), in the late 90's Nissan built some with Peugeot 1.5 TUD Diesels for European markets.

[quicksilver]

How about this then? No, it isn't a Triumph 2000, 2500 or 2.5PI and everyone knows they exist. It's a Stag estate and the V5 says so. Built by Del Lines of Atlantic Garage, Weston super Mare for his own use, it's basically all the mechanical bits of a Stag in a 2.5PI estate shell. He ended up building 25 more to order before BL shut him down for copyright infringement, and one other estate and a saloon also survive. I'd never heard of such a thing before but now it's in my dream garage.