Cars you didn't know existed until very recently.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

1 hour ago, DSdriver said:

By Mic from Reading - Berkshire, United Kingdom - Paris, France, CC BY 2.0, https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?curid=54294227

This showed up in my YouTube suggestions 

 

There was one in the eBay Tat Thread a couple of weeks ago , pretty sure it was in this country too.

[DSdriver]

Although I do look at Ebay Tat every time I view the forum I seem to have missed that.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

47 minutes ago, DSdriver said:

Although I do look at Ebay Tat every time I view the forum I seem to have missed that.

Sorry,  my mistake it was the Low cost Big liability thread in the modern section. Pg 335

Posted by @The Vicar

 

The modern thread is a bit ambiguously named , I think the initial idea was for cars newer than 10 years old, it sort of means anything this century now. So don’t dismiss it as Pistonheads Lite or something.

[jumpingjehovahs]

Looks very familiar, but this one is a 4.1 straight 6 sold in Brazil as the Chevrolet Omega Suprema. This ones a 1995 so must be one of the last, has only 21000 miles and comes with the very rare digital dash and sunroof.

[chaseracer]

On 5/12/2020 at 11:19 AM, Inspiral_Mondays said:

I remember seeing pictures of this in a magazine as a teenager, it left an impression in my formative years. It‘s the Michelin Centipede and was used by Michelin to do high speed testing on their tyres. The tyre testing rig is in the middle of the car. I think the engine is at the back.

Engines, plural.  Two Chevrolet 454ci big-block V8s... ??

[Snipes]

19 minutes ago, jumpingjehovahs said:

Looks very familiar, but this one is a 4.1 straight 6 sold in Brazil as the Chevrolet Omega Suprema. This ones a 1995 so must be one of the last, has only 21000 miles and comes with the very rare digital dash and sunroof.

I'm going to hazard a guess and say a Chevy 4.1 makes less power than the 12v straight six we got.

[jumpingjehovahs]

I'm going to hazard a guess and say a Chevy 4.1 makes less power than the 12v straight six we got.

168bhp in the 4.1 and 175 in the Carlton 3000, not a huge deficit but enough


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[Adrian_pt]

Thought I was pretty up to speed on most stuff sold in Europe after the war - turns out every day is a school day. WOULD, incidentally.

[lesapandre]

It's a Spanish market Merc van constructed in Spain to get round high import duties? 

[Volksy]

I believe that they are an ex DKW/Auto Union Design. As I Remember in Spain some had MB badges and some the Audi four rings.

 

 

[martc]

1 hour ago, Adrian_pt said:

Thought I was pretty up to speed on most stuff sold in Europe after the war - turns out every day is a school day. WOULD, incidentally.

It's a Mercedes N1300 made by in Spain by IMOSA (Industrias del Motor SA) made between 1963 and 1986 - so why didn't we all see them when we used to go on holiday to Spain?

 Phun phact, and equally obscure, it was based on the DKW-IMOSA F1000; it was also called the Auto-Union F1000. Imagine turning up at your local Aldi dealer in one of these -

You've just been nicked by the Style Police.

[barrett]

Those are my favourite vans ever (maybe the Taunus Transit just pips it, actually). The thinking man's Barkas! It's been too long since I drove a DKW...

[lesapandre]

A few for sale in Spain. Mostly 3-5000€. 

[Volksy]

There are so many oddball badge engineered Vans in Spain. 

The BMC J4 got recycled as the SAVA/Pegaso J4

The Alfa Romeo F12 became the EBRO F100

Ford Trader and D series trucks were also made and badged as EBRO

Obviously the above DKW/Mercedes combo

My favourite has always been the EBRO F275, Later sold, even over here, as the Nissan Trade. An early one with the quad lamps and hinged side door for me please!

[Richard_FM]

16 minutes ago, Volksy said:

There are so many oddball badge engineered Vans in Spain. 

The BMC J4 got recycled as the SAVA/Pegaso J4

The Alfa Romeo F12 became the EBRO F100

Ford Trader and D series trucks were also made and badged as EBRO

Obviously the above DKW/Mercedes combo

My favourite has always been the EBRO F275, Later sold, even over here, as the Nissan Trade. An early one with the quad lamps and hinged side door for me please!

I got the impression that there were some high import taxes during Franco's time so manufacturers used to have to find ways round them, importing CKD kits then assembling them in Spain was common.

[martc]

On 5/14/2020 at 1:28 PM, Richard_FM said:

I got the impression that there were some high import taxes during Franco's time so manufacturers used to have to find ways round them, importing CKD kits then assembling them in Spain was common.

That's true - high import tariffs and quotas were applied to cars (and other manufactured goods) by the Franco regime. This explains the origins of the large car industry in Spain today - all the major manufacturers wanted a share of the market and the only way to do this was to build a factory there.

Joint ventures with a local manufacturer were actively encouraged egs include the famous union of FIAT with SEAT, IMOSA with DKW etc as seen above and FASA  (Fabricación de Automóviles Sociedad Anónima de Valladolid) with Renault. It wasn't all CKD's though - there were some home made designs as well eg the famous FASA Renault 7 as seen in this parish.

India and Brazil's colourful motor vehicle histories have the same fiscal background.

[Richard_FM]

The Renault 7s did get sold much outside of Spain but the doors were the same as the 5 door 5s.

[Richard_FM]

Even the Americans got in on the act with the Dodge 3700GT assembled in Spain.

Many of these were used as official cars by the government.

Some were brought to the UK for use in the filming of Batman.

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_16572-Dodge-3700-GT-1972.html

Some more information on the link, especially the posts by someone involved with the filming. 

[Remspoor]

On 5/16/2020 at 4:35 PM, Richard_FM said:

Even the Americans got in on the act with the Dodge 3700GT assembled in Spain.

Many of these were used as official cars by the government.

Some were brought to the UK for use in the filming of Batman.

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicle_16572-Dodge-3700-GT-1972.html

Some more information on the link, especially the posts by someone involved with the filming. 

Those cars were KNK from Argentina fitted a lot were fitted with diesel engines.

Spanish WIKI

The English version lacks a lot of information.

[Richard_FM]

26 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

Those cars were KNK from Argentina fitted a lot were fitted with diesel engines.

Spanish WIKI

The English version lacks a lot of information.

Ok I couldn’t find too much about them.

[jumpingjehovahs]

This is the Isuzu Stylus/Gemini, which seems like quite a sweet little thing. I love finding new Isuzu cars, usually from the USDM - but then always feel a bit shortchanged we only got the Trooper and Piazza.

This was then replaced by the fourth generation Isuzu Gemini:



That led me to the Isuzu Oasis which I think I’ve seen 1 of in the states



That would’ve done quite well here I reckon, as it would’ve been priced below the Odyssey/Shuttle.


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[martc]

^^^^ Isn't that a Honda Shuttle by another name?

[Snipes]

That pre-Civic Gemini looks a lot like a Lancer 

[bunglebus]

I was following a Toyota Noah the other day

 

 

Sorry wrong pic

[Garythesnail]

That 4th Generation Gemini looks like a Honda Domani . . . . . which, underneath, is a lot like a Civic . . ..  and a DC2 Integra  (and DC5 - anyone know?) . . . a Rover 400 (HHR, but rear of an R8 too) . . . . .  and an MGZS.  . . . . it really wasn't such a bad platform.

 

[Snipes]

All broadly the same yeah, though I'd hesitate to say they're identical. 

Funny, the ZS190 is essentially a more-door, v6 Teg TypeR yet people don't really care about them.

[JimH]

In a post about gearboxes @Talbot said...

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If it's a BE1/5 your selection is a bit slimmer.  I think you're then looking at very early models of Peugeot 205/309, and Citroen BX/C15   You'd also be able to use one from a Diesel Talbot Horizon, but they are bonkers rare now, possibly only one or two left in the UK. 

I never knew this car existed. I cannot imagine who drove a Horizon and thought to themselves "You know what? This would be great if only it were even more clattery"

[Volksy]

My local police in Spain used those Diesel horizons as panda cars. 

[Richard_FM]

1 hour ago, JimH said:

In a post about gearboxes @Talbot said...

I never knew this car existed. I cannot imagine who drove a Horizon and thought to themselves "You know what? This would be great if only it were even more clattery"

In fairness it was the XUD engine which was the smoothest diesel around in the early 1980s.

One turned up as a barnfind a few years ago & is hopefully in good hands.

[1duck]

Renault Kangoo Trekka....a 4x4 renault kangoo.