derskine Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Basically I store my cars in my girlfriend's parents garage, and have learned today that their neighbour has reported me for running a business... The council turned up asking questions today apparently. The guy is an arse, both something_awful and nisfan have had encounters with him whilst visiting me working on the cars too.He's taken pictures of all my cars and both of their cars too. The only reason I can think he's reported me for this is because I broke my 340 for parts because no one wanted to buy it whole.That's not considered running a business surely though? That was just selling something I owned as a one off. How can I prove that I'm not running a business, surely it must be evident I'm a car enthusiast? Any help and advice appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Complete lack of anything proving its a business should be ok shouldnt it? Lack of proper workshop, receipts, trade accounts, other cars etc? alf892 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junkman Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Since when does one have to prove one's innocence? If anything needs proving at all, they have to prove that you are running a business. gtd2000, danthecapriman, saucedoctor and 18 others 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e287yba Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Since when does one have to prove one's innocence?If anything needs proving at all, they have to prove that you are running a business.Yes - they'll investigate and find, errm, nothing? It's up to them to find the ads for your business on autotrader/gumtree/ebay etc, link them all together using the phone number and/or email address which is always the same. Other ways of running a business are available, these will also be checked out... It's not for you to prove you're innocent, unless they provide 'evidence' which you then need to refute. saucedoctor, Banger Kenny, eddyramrod and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskine Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Thanks, that does put my mind at ease a little, I'm a bit fuming because I know he's doing it just because he doesn't like me/her parents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burraston2006 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Anything you can report him for? Noise pollution, over grown hedges etc? Tell the council that he offers rent boys for use from his premises! michael t, Charlie Croker and Banger Kenny 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
320touring Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 We could have a meet up there? Angrydicky, chaseracer, burraston2006 and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskine Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 He may own an untaxed/uninsured/unsorned Lancia Thema.It's illegal to have a car uninsured and untaxed without being sorn even if it's on private land isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairnet Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 tell them theres a funny fragrance eminating from his premises Banger Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 He may own an untaxed/uninsured/unsorned Lancia Thema.It's illegal to have a car uninsured and untaxed without being sorn even if it's on private land isn't it? Tell him to donate it to us and we'll say no more about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSdriver Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 He may own an untaxed/uninsured/unsorned Lancia Thema.It's illegal to have a car uninsured and untaxed without being sorn even if it's on private land isn't it?Depends...I think if it has been off the road since before all this modern sorn malarky then it is invisible to bureaucracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stixy Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Theres no point reporting them for anything as it will start a tit for tat type situation Grab him by the throat "in a non violent way " and firmly tell them to keep there nose out NorfolkNWeigh, SambaS, gtd2000 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HillmanImp Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 If you check the HMRC webshite it will tell you that if you do something specifically for profit it is considered taxable. So if you buy a car for the sole reason to make money on it, the profit should really be taxable. If you buy a car, drivie around in it for 3 years with no intention of making a profit on it and happen to sell it for more, its not taxable. However for the HMRC to consider investigating you for running a business you would have to be making a fair bit of cash to make it worth their while so most people who make a little here and there can get away with it as quite frankly nobody cares. Proving that you were doing something with the intention of making money is hard to prove and costly. WTF its got to do with the police is what bemuses me. They can't do shit. I will dig around and find the relevant page for you when I have a chance. *EDIT* Just re-read this, it was the council that popped round, not the police, checking to see if it was being used for business for rates I assume. Ignore me then, soz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 You might get humped by SEPA if it occurs to him to contact them. Make sure you're not doing anything that might offend them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskine Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Apparently the guy from the council was satisfied and said he probably won't need to be back again.They had a chat with the other neighbour who confirmed that he was talking rubbish and it's plainly evident I'm restoring/working on cars not selling them or intending to make profit from them. I did buy my 340 with hopes of getting it on the road but it was just far too rotten - so much so that no one would have bought it whole. Thanks for the advice guys, hopefully this is the end of this though I await what he'll report me for next. I was joking about the Thema, not sure it does belong to him and wouldn't want to stoop to his level anyway. Banger Kenny 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Has he got a lawn? If so draw a big cock on it with weedkiller. Charlie Croker, Vince70, theorganist and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cort16 Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 I buy and sell a few cars but with my success rate I recon HMRC owes me about 4 grand. Vince70, Rusty_Rocket, Banger Kenny and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Don't use roundup though as that grows back in quick, try something like chikara as that nuetralises the soil for 6 to 8 months or you could try cress seeds as it will look green for 4 days a week then white when cut. gtd2000 and SambaS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobT Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 FFS, if you were a trader there's better cars to make money on than a knackered 340. He's obviously a twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulgalour Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Chances are the Council are just as bored of him as you are. Carry on regardless, express your concerns about his abusive/harrassing/irrational behaviour to the Council. burraston2006, Mr Livered, eddyramrod and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskine Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 Weirdly he cuts his grass about 3 times a day and that's not an exaggeration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 So chikara it is then and a bit of midnight artyness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 And we'll come round to piss on the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Show them some recent bank statements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 get a bitch dog to "water" his lawn there's nothing like bitches piss to fcuk up a nice lawn! Partridge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Partridge Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 get a bitch dog to "water" his lawn there's nothing like bitches piss to fcuk up a nice lawn!Evil. Pure evil, Frank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Theres no point reporting them for anything as it will start a tit for tat type situation Grab him by the throat "in a non violent way " and firmly tell them to keep there nose out. Couldn't agree less. Any sign of aggression will cause more trouble when the police inevitably get involved plus the OP doesn't live there so won't have to take the flack. Note: the above meaning he might use violence or threats against the people that live there, or find someone who will. Also whether tit for tat or not, the pain in the arse neighbour has to be 'repaid' somehow, it's his own fault and if he isn't taught a similar lesson he'll go on doing this sort of thing. Plus it'll let him know not to piss about with people or face the same in return.Fight fire with fire, that's the only way to deal with tits like him. Vince70, Charlie Croker and Ghosty 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Livered Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 Show them some recent bank statements?Sod that! As has been said, it's up to him to prove that you're doing something wrong - and you're not. Why should you let a knob like that see your private financial documents? The best advice I reckon is simply not to worry about it. He can't get you for this, and the further he takes it the more of a twat he will look. Banger Kenny, saucedoctor and scruff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskine Posted June 16, 2014 Author Share Posted June 16, 2014 I'm not going to retaliate in any sort of way, I'm a peaceful person I just can't understand why he's such an arsehole.Apparently he claimed I was also "Running a website for his shit banger car business". Banger Kenny, TRW and forddeliveryboy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted June 16, 2014 Share Posted June 16, 2014 LOL!!! A 'shit banger car business' sounds like a highly profitable venture alright. Cavcraft, michael t, drum and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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