save mildenhall stadium

[Guest bangerfan101]

Save Mildenhall Stadium and give rights to existing activities with planning permission and local residents’ support.

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/62894

 

Responsible department: Ministry of Justice

 

In 2006 a couple bought a house close to Mildenhall Stadium where stock car racing and speedway have taken place since 1975, and began complaining about the noise. The case progressed to the Supreme Court where they won. The law says that them coming to the noise is no defence and planning permission makes no difference. This ruling affects all activities from motorsports to cricket and concerts to retail parks and even church bells.

We believe common sense says this ruling is wrong.

We call upon Parliament to change the law of ‘coming to a nuisance’ to protect established activities with planning permission and local support, and to put on a person arriving into the area full responsibility for accepting that this is part of the character of the area. We also ask Parliament to intervene in this case to reverse the Supreme Court ruling and save stock car racing and speedway at Mildenhall.

Please do not sign this petition if you have already signed the paper version, thank you.

[catsinthewelder]

All my left wing sensibilities tell me to sign the petition as the courts are obviously wrong on this issue and it creates a dangerous precedent.

 

But I'm fucked if I'm going to side with the pre 68-ers so FRO.

 

[mouseflakes]

In 2006 a couple bought a house close to Mildenhall Stadium where stock car racing and speedway have taken place since 1975, and began complaining about the noise.

 

Idiots ^

 

Personally I think the 'FRO' goes to these types, and those that complain about church bells and cockerels crowing when they 'arrive' in the area.

[beko1987]

Damn right. My grandparents have lived next to Peterborough showground for ever, and we often used to listen to the speedway sat in the garden. Speedways been at Peterborough for decades now, my grandad was the starting Marshall for years in the 70s

 

New houses went up a few years ago, already been moaning.

[Dajazar]

Mildenhall stadium is great. Fond memories of the place in the 1980's when the Fen Tigers and Newcastle (Lada) Diamonds had some fantastic encounters. Richard Knight, Carl Baldwin, Mick Bates, Tom & Joe Owen, Robbie Blackadder etc etc. Ah the memories. Sod the couple buying the house. You move there, you do the research. It's like moving next to a football ground and complaining about the racket on matchday. Next, they'll be complaining about the noise from the airbase. What is it with these morons? 

[DSdriver]

I thought this was supposed to be a democracy and yet the established pleasure of hundreds can be stopped by one complainant. Utter bollocks and just a part of what is wrong with this country at the moment. The most we should ever do for them is give 'em a set of ear plugs and tell to foxtrot oscar.

[CortinaDave]

In principle I agree it's a ridiculous state of affairs

But maybe this'll spare a few cortinas and granadas so as a shite car fan I'm not signing.

 

Soz.

Selfish ? Probably.

[wuvvum]

 

All my left wing sensibilities tell me to sign the petition as the courts are obviously wrong on this issue and it creates a dangerous precedent.

 

But I'm fucked if I'm going to side with the pre 68-ers so FRO.

 

 

 

[Richard]

[Inspector Morose]

In quinton, a bus garage was built in the 1930s. A little later a council housing estate was built around it. In the 80s these houses were short sightedly sold off to individual owners. Time went by and a few of these new owners complained about the noise of the bus garage that was built before the houses. The bus garage is a Tesco now.

[Vin]

I've always found this weird. The only people who complained about our local pub having an entertainment licence were the ones who had built their house next to the pub...

 

Also, when they started to use the railway line through Brigg as a way to help alleviate the rail traffic through Lincoln High Street (35 minutes in the hour the high street barriers are shut...) those whose houses backed up to the line complained about it. BUT the fact is the railway was there a good 150 years before any houses were......

[Cavcraft]

I don't believe e-petitions ever really do anything, but happy to 'sign' that and I hope the track gets saved.

[oldford]

Obviously common sense would say it's no big secret that their house is next to a race track so there'll be some noise, especially at the weekend.  Something leaves me a little uneasy after reading the article here:

 

http://www.buryfreepress.co.uk/news/local/latest-news/couple-take-mildenhall-stadium-case-to-supreme-court-1-5675674

 

Did they really deserve to be hounded out of their home?

 

They lived there from January 2006 until May 2010, when their home was flooded with oil after a digger was crashed into an oil tank, then it was rendered uninhabitable by fire the following month.

 

Usually I would sign such a petition, not in this case as I don't want to condone such bullying actions.

[explosive-cabbage]

It is quite obvious from the picture that the residents are no longer living there. LOLZ

 

I think the high court were entirely right to reverse the original descision for £20,000 damages, why should they claim money from the stadium when they decided to live there??

 

Tell them to FRO

 

They live half a mile from the stadium FFS it can't really be that loud!

[Richard]

That article raises more questions than it answers. Were the digger and fire anything to do with the racetrack? Didn't they have insurance? Why are they bothered about the noise if they don't live there any more?

[gtd2000]

The article sounds like a fairly commonsense approach was taken to the whole matter with regards to the reversal of the court award for damages.

 

There isn't any suggestion of who drove the digger into the oil tank as far as I could tell?

 

It may well be the owners drove the digger, "accidentally on purpose", in order to claim on the insurance, due to having bought a duff property?

[pompei]

This also reminds me of Steve Berry (still on this forum?) talking on a radio debate about horses on the road and dismissing the claims that as horses were there before cars they should have equal rights to use the highway 

[scruff]

Damn right. My grandparents have lived next to Peterborough showground for ever, and we often used to listen to the speedway sat in the garden. Speedways been at Peterborough for decades now, my grandad was the starting Marshall for years in the 70s

 

New houses went up a few years ago, already been moaning.

 

I reckon the showground's doomed TBH, mixture of shite management and bowing to the kinds of attitudes above. If it's still there in a decade I'd be amazed.

[mouseflakes]

It's like buying a house next to Heathrow Airport and getting the courts to close it down.

 

If they really didn't know about the stadium when they bought the place, then these people should be pursuing the professionals they employed to do their conveyancing, not the stadium.

[Lankytim]

I've read that there's an issue with a 20k sound barrier thing the stadium erected a little while ago to appease the nimbys. Instead of pacifying them it is seen as an admission of guilt.

[Pete-M]

Much as in against this kind of thing - people whining about noise after they've moved into an area next to a racecourse etc, I'm more against banger racing.

[FredTransit]

if the stadium hosts banger racing I wont be signing the petition.

This is just like the folk that move into Notting Hill and complain about the carnival. If it was there before you were, get over it or move.....

[Pete-M]

Hmm. If someone does a petition that says "Keep Mildenhall, but stop banger racing there" I'll happily sign that.

[brickwall]

I signed it  just 'cos I hate  busy nosey folk.

[RobT]

On the Brands Hatch GP circuit there's a house that overlooks Dingle Dell corner, I'd pay extra to live there never mind complain about it. On the other hand, I was put off buying a place that overlooked a football pitch as I didn't like the idea of loads of mongs shouting at each other every Saturday afternoon. One persons noise is anothers pleasure etc.

[Guest bangerfan101]

mildenhall has speedway , a moto-x track and the dog track besides the stockcars , bangers .

 

not to mention is directly underneath raf mildenhalls flight path with the yanks flying b52's an the likes in regularly .

 

as for pre 68 . thats at hednesford .

[Pete-M]

Speedway, moto x and dog racing is all fine.

 

Bangers is my problem with it. I went to Belle Vue in Manchester last year and it was shit. Properly shit. I'd forgotten the UK has rednecks until I went there. That's not a sport, it's not even entertainment.

[Lankytim]

Don't go then. Simples.

[outlaw118]

This issue is not exclusively about Mildenhall; yes, that's the title of the petition, but it's about NIMBYism in general.

 

I've read the notes on the case, and here's the Autocar piece:

I think the final part sums it all up; basically as the law stands, (certainly with this case appearing to set some kind of precedent), you could move anywhere, and then complain about one of the local "amenities" making noise, be it a Speedway track, a concert venue, a church belltower, anything at all, and start proceedings to have the venue / event stopped. It matters not that the event / venue has been operating since the year dot, with planning permission, and county approval.

Incidentally, the estate agent and conveyancing solicitor in this case have both said that the track's existance was advised to the client / purchaser. And surely they would have seen it when viewing?

As someone has already said RAF Mildenhall is but a stone's throw away, and the noise from that is not just confined to 20 Saturday nights a year. Are they going to start on that next?

 

So, please, try and put your "ALL BANGAH RACERZ R PIKYZ" thing to one side, and sign the petition. This could happen to somewhere you go, and care about.

[CortinaDave]

They do pre 70 at mildenhall I think. I completely get the reasoning behind the campaign, but as it's to save something I fundamentally disagree with, I'm staying out of the petition.

 

It's had 10000 odd signatures already anyway so seems to be doing alright.