The Bikeshite Thread

[Cavcraft]

4 hours ago, Jerzy Woking said:

I do like those race rep 50's, and luckily a few kids here have them, and race from one end of town to the other a few times a day.

No such exotica when I was 16, Fizzies, AP50's and SS50's were normal, and only the Fantics seemed to be that bit classier.

There seemed to be a bit of a lull in interesting 50cc bikes from the late 1970s for a while, then these sort of things came out and jazzed up the market. Although a few modern small bikes (including quite a few Chinese ones) look great, the end of 2T stuff sort of made life a bit dull, imho.

 

[andyberg]

Just now, Cavcraft said:

 the end of 2T stuff sort of made life a bit dull, imho.

 

Hit the nail on the head. This includes 125's and things up to 500cc

[Jerzy Woking]

Got to sell my 2001 Cagiva Mito 125 as the reality is there is no way to register it here in Spain. It's the full 33bhp  (so not legal for anyone on L plates), had a ground up restoration 5 or 6 years ago, and has done around 600 miles since then, being kept in my heated garage for four years.

£2000, bike is in Essex (I am not).

 

[andyberg]

3 minutes ago, Jerzy Woking said:

Got to sell my 2001 Cagiva Mito 125 as the reality is there is no way to register it here in Spain. It's the full 33bhp  (so not legal for anyone on L plates), had a ground up restoration 5 or 6 years ago, and has done around 600 miles since then, being kept in my heated garage for four years.

£2000, bike is in Essex (I am not).

 

Lush, but I'm to old and fat to squeeze into that riding position now ☹️😂

[Jerzy Woking]

2 minutes ago, andyberg said:

Lush, but I'm to old and fat to squeeze into that riding position now ☹️😂

I'm 63, with the figure of a darts player, and it was fine for me. Decent stretch to the clipons, and foot pegs not too high. Actually felt physically large compared to, say, a CG125

[andyberg]

29 minutes ago, Jerzy Woking said:

I'm 63, with the figure of a darts player, and it was fine for me. Decent stretch to the clipons, and foot pegs not too high. Actually felt physically large compared to, say, a CG125

Hope for me yet then 🤞

[martc]

Herne Bay. early '80's.

[Cavcraft]

2 hours ago, Jerzy Woking said:

Got to sell my 2001 Cagiva Mito 125 as the reality is there is no way to register it here in Spain. It's the full 33bhp  (so not legal for anyone on L plates), had a ground up restoration 5 or 6 years ago, and has done around 600 miles since then, being kept in my heated garage for four years.

£2000, bike is in Essex (I am not).

 

Jesus wept, that's lovely.

[Cavcraft]

This has given a bit of grief since arriving...

 

..never really ran right, so carb cleaned twice and finally a re-jet has got it better, but not perfect. A ridiculously cheap new chrome 'power' pipe is next to be fitted, the garage are going to make a bracket for it as it didn't come with one. Was seriously tempted to put the wheels from this onto the FS1, and have bought some RD50MX ones to replace these, but will probably end up looking crap, so will maybe leave things as they are.  Didn't really originally plan on having another Yamaha 50, but these are such nice looking things (imho) that it had to be done.

[Dave_Q]

3 hours ago, Jerzy Woking said:

Got to sell my 2001 Cagiva Mito 125 as the reality is there is no way to register it here in Spain. It's the full 33bhp  (so not legal for anyone on L plates), had a ground up restoration 5 or 6 years ago, and has done around 600 miles since then, being kept in my heated garage for four years.

£2000, bike is in Essex (I am not).

 

Thanks, now 17 year old me has had a trouser accident as well

[Jerzy Woking]

2 hours ago, Cavcraft said:

This has given a bit of grief since arriving...

 

..never really ran right, so carb cleaned twice and finally a re-jet has got it better, but not perfect. A ridiculously cheap new chrome 'power' pipe is next to be fitted, the garage are going to make a bracket for it as it didn't come with one. Was seriously tempted to put the wheels from this onto the FS1, and have bought some RD50MX ones to replace these, but will probably end up looking crap, so will maybe leave things as they are.  Didn't really originally plan on having another Yamaha 50, but these are such nice looking things (imho) that it had to be done.

I would love to have a collection of 70's and 80'c mopeds. Some had all the right dimensions and looked great.

My great-nephew has a 1990 something Aprilia Extrema 50cc that was really quick. He took it to bits to store in his mums attic, as "when I'm 40 I can relive my youth on the bike I spent my youth on".

Wish I had done that.

[hairnet]

7 hours ago, Jerzy Woking said:

I'm 63, with the figure of a darts player, and it was fine for me. Decent stretch to the clipons, and foot pegs not too high. Actually felt physically large compared to, say, a CG125

i think it might be worth more coin bra

 

[Jerzy Woking]

Quite possibly mate, but its not doing any good sat in the shop as decoration.

[Cavcraft]

4 hours ago, Jerzy Woking said:

I would love to have a collection of 70's and 80'c mopeds. Some had all the right dimensions and looked great.

My great-nephew has a 1990 something Aprilia Extrema 50cc that was really quick. He took it to bits to store in his mums attic, as "when I'm 40 I can relive my youth on the bike I spent my youth on".

Wish I had done that.

It's good fun if you don't want to go very fast*. Wouldn't mind a go at Le Jog on a 50 one year, ideally the SS just for a laugh.  

This isn't all of them and the Yamaha looks very different now. The MBX50 is hysterically ponderous, typical Honda 2T whereby all the 'power' lasts for about 4 seconds in each gear before you scream up flat out 'til the next one, then run out of steam just over 30-ish MPH. 

 

[Jerzy Woking]

3 minutes ago, Cavcraft said:

It's good fun if you don't want to go very fast*. Wouldn't mind a go at Le Jog on a 50 one year, ideally the SS just for a laugh.  

This isn't all of them and the Yamaha looks very different now. The MBX50 is hysterically ponderous, typical Honda 2T whereby all the 'power' lasts for about 4 seconds in each gear before you scream up flat out 'til the next one, then run out of steam just over 30-ish MPH. 

 

Having ridden a 125cc twist'n go scooter to Czechia, flat out 90% of the way there and back, I say do the Le Jog. Could be fun, or Hell!

I had a Honda MTX (?) 50 that I fitted an HA100 engine into. It was a complete abortion, but even so, someone stole it off of my driveway.

[hairnet]

On 2/18/2022 at 4:13 PM, Jerzy Woking said:

 

No such exotica when I was 16

 

[andyberg]

On 2/19/2022 at 9:13 AM, Jerzy Woking said:

Got to sell my 2001 Cagiva Mito 125 as the reality is there is no way to register it here in Spain. It's the full 33bhp  (so not legal for anyone on L plates), had a ground up restoration 5 or 6 years ago, and has done around 600 miles since then, being kept in my heated garage for four years.

£2000, bike is in Essex (I am not).

 

PM incoming

[Jerzy Woking]

Received and replied. 

[castros_bro]

On 2/19/2022 at 7:41 PM, Cavcraft said:

It's good fun if you don't want to go very fast*. Wouldn't mind a go at Le Jog on a 50 one year, ideally the SS just for a laugh.  

This isn't all of them and the Yamaha looks very different now. The MBX50 is hysterically ponderous, typical Honda 2T whereby all the 'power' lasts for about 4 seconds in each gear before you scream up flat out 'til the next one, then run out of steam just over 30-ish MPH. 

 

You can never have too many mopeds.

 

[Snake Charmer]

On 2/18/2022 at 2:54 PM, Cavcraft said:

SS50 is seemingly throwing oil out of the exhaust stud area. Garage said it looks like someone has heli-coiled the studs, over done it and put Steel Seal in.  Managed to find a C70 engine not too far away, so dropped it off and just waiting for a new gasket set so they can put the top end onto the SS engine. Didn't really want to modify it as such, but it was a common thing back in the day and will still look standard and might even go more than 35mph now!

Does the SS have standard gearing? Mine had something like a 10t front sprocket in standard trim. 

[Cavcraft]

1 hour ago, Snake Charmer said:

Does the SS have standard gearing? Mine had something like a 10t front sprocket in standard trim. 

Probably, it looks as standard as it should be (the whole bike, that is) save for repro exhaust etc. It does have some issues so probably not as 'fast' as it should be, but it's sodding miles off even a restricted  FS1. 

[andyberg]

1 hour ago, castros_bro said:

You can never have too many mopeds.

 

Seems like a fine collection of French Peds there. Much like from me.

[andyberg]

Sons bike just gained an MOT. Last on the road in 2017 when the last MOT expired. The nipper that had it lost interest and bought a car. 

New tyres, exhaust, brakes front and rear. New master cylinder, new complete front suspension system ( single sided) new rear shock and a pass with no advisories. My son is beaming. And I have saved a classic* 2 stroke 😁

[hairnet]

after not using the shit honda (no not the red one)

for more than a week

went to measure battery and surprised it started

hmmmmm

[Cavcraft]

5 hours ago, andyberg said:

Sons bike just gained an MOT. Last on the road in 2017 when the last MOT expired. The nipper that had it lost interest and bought a car. 

New tyres, exhaust, brakes front and rear. New master cylinder, new complete front suspension system ( single sided) new rear shock and a pass with no advisories. My son is beaming. And I have saved a classic* 2 stroke 😁

 

That looks ace, they're a right nice thing those Speedfights.

 

Plan B (reconditioned big valve head, re-bored barrel, new piston etc) C70 top end for the SS50 ordered, plus some new tyres.

Meanwhile, after making an absolute dogs dinner of applying the side panel graphics (as photographed below) for the FS1, ordered some more and applied them, pictures to follow. 

It's a bit* of a mongrel this thing, it's actually a very late FS1M, that I started to make look like an FS1E. Some of the purist gang don't like it, and are happy to point out it's got the wrong sided front brake etc etc etc. 

Given that a 'genuine' FS1E is probably about eleventy million quid now (and no doubt has the same amount of pattern parts as this) the idea was to knock up something of a replica for a lot less money. well, that was the plan. Have a genuine early-ish 'E' tank to go on (after being repaired and re-painted) so will get some more panels and have a spare set of tinware in Competition yellow. Have put a few quid into this with the paint job, new Allspeed, rear tyre, 1975 number plate and all the other bits, but very happy with it so far. A carb clean and the expansion chamber saw an indicated 10mph more than before (39 to 49mph) flat out, though I bet GPS would suggest early 40s at most. Need an original type air filter box etc, then waiting for a lad to try out a 65 kit on his to see what the verdict is.

 

[Dick Cheeseburger]

On 2/19/2022 at 7:41 PM, Cavcraft said:

It's good fun if you don't want to go very fast*. Wouldn't mind a go at Le Jog on a 50 one year, ideally the SS just for a laugh.  

This isn't all of them and the Yamaha looks very different now. The MBX50 is hysterically ponderous, typical Honda 2T whereby all the 'power' lasts for about 4 seconds in each gear before you scream up flat out 'til the next one, then run out of steam just over 30-ish MPH. 

 

Lammy?

[Snake Charmer]

My SS50 felt dangerous on the road in standard trim, pulling out of T junctions was a nightmare. Within 2 weeks of my 16th birthday I had 72cc's of throbbing power and gearing to match. I pulled a 5 speed engine and disc front end off a smashed up bike in the river so I had a bigger carb and more gears, stronger clutch springs and an extra plate plus C90 inner valve springs to stop valve bounce.

Revving the granny out of it in fourth gear and changing into 5th as you overtook AP50's or Fizzies  was fun, I managed to do it two up once. There were two Fantics locally I could not quite keep up with, a Caballero and a GT.

[Cavcraft]

15 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Lammy?

Still here, last out a few weeks ago.

[Cavcraft]

Went to buy a C70 engine from a bike shop in Cheshire and he mentioned having a S90 or C200 upstairs. Upstairs meant exactly that, it was a converted terrace house and there was no lighting up there. It was sat next to a Kawasaki 250 Samurai twin (he won't part with that) and said both (plus other random bikes) had been up there for years. Obvs. like ended up agreeing to buy the Honda, so collected it near the end of this week 

Not at a stage to try and get it firing or running yet, hopefully be nearer by end of week.

 

 

[hairnet]

Silliness ftw