Shite in Miniature II

[Skizzer]

I am speechless.

[plasticvandan]

OK OK, you have the technology,you clearly have the skills,would you do me the honor of being the first person in history to make a model Invacar?

[garethj]

Anything is possible, what scale?

 

And how much does it need to cost to sell lots?

[stuboy]

im after a mk2 mondeo hatchback

[plasticvandan]

i would imagine a model rail size would sell very well (oxford diecast stylee) as its such a period vehicle! me however would love a massive one haha

 

i even have blueprint style drawings with some measurements

[andy18s]

How about a 1/18 mk5 Escort RS2000 ? Nobody makes 1.

Only the Cosworth gets any attention and I'm sure a 1/18 bodyshell which will fit a cossy floorpan would do well...

[garethj]

A 1:18 scale isn't going to fit in my resin casting chamber unfortunately.

 

The small scale Invacar is intriguing, I need to know the price of that kind of thing to see if it will cover all the costs.

[Felly Magic]

1/43 scale Austin/MG Maestro?

[plasticvandan]

What sort of price would a 1/43 scale cost do you think? 

[quicksilver]

A 1/76 Invacar sounds an intriguing prospect and I'd certainly consider buying one. That sort of thing is unlikely to be touched by the diecast manufacturers as there aren't any colour variations: Invacars can be made in blue and, er, that's it.

[purplebargeken]

This is mega-wow!

[garethj]

The cost depends on the scale, but I'll look into it.

 

What's the sale price?

[Pillock]

Wow, that is actually awesome. And I checked the meaning of awesome before I put that, I'm happy I chose the right word. 

 

The finished results are fantastic, I'd love to know what these things are costing in materials plus time - i.e. how much is it costing you for one model, one hundred models, even more? Seems like the opportunities with a good 3D printer and the knowledge would be endless.

[garethj]

Ouch, I've just looked at the detail on 1:43 cars, that would take me forever. I'll stick to slot cars, you can't see my dodgy paint as it zooms around the track!

[fred]

Blimey, 3D printing in autoshite ??? Whatever next !!

Awesome work, how much would a general set up IE 3D printer PC With relevant software cost? Im curious

[garethj]

Blimey, 3D printing in autoshite ??? Whatever next !!

Awesome work, how much would a general set up IE 3D printer PC With relevant software cost? Im curious

Goodness knows - more than I could afford!  The 3D printer I use is about £100,000 which is a little pricey for me, that's why I use a service bureau for my occasional use.  Whatever home printer you buy for £1000 can't compare for quality compared to one that's a hundred times the price, funnily enough.

 

The CAD software I use is because I use it at work, this whole thing started off because I was bored during long lunchbreaks.  I only really use it for the chassis design, the bodyshell designs I buy for between £0 and £100, then it takes another £60 from an agency to convert the surfaces into something that can be 3D printed.  After that, getting the bodyshell printed is "only" about £40 because of the SLS process I've chosen.  An SLA gives better surface finish but it's around 3 times the price.

 

Wow, that is actually awesome. And I checked the meaning of awesome before I put that, I'm happy I chose the right word. 

 

The finished results are fantastic, I'd love to know what these things are costing in materials plus time - i.e. how much is it costing you for one model, one hundred models, even more? Seems like the opportunities with a good 3D printer and the knowledge would be endless.

See above, mostly.  Once the master model is 3D printed then I need to spend a while getting the surface smooth with painting and sanding, then I pour silicone around it to make a mould.  From there I can take resin cast bodyshells, but also I get an interior made as vacform, windows made the same way, I design the graphics and get them printed as waterslide transfers and get the wheel inserts (hubcaps, basically) designed and printed and cast the same as the bodyshell.

[Noel Tidybeard]

i can haz a nu kar from furrin cuntry

 

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looks abit mishimushi/vulva at the front

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and a bit alfa/seat/mazda at the back

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[fred]

Goodness knows - more than I could afford!  The 3D printer I use is about £100,000 which is a little pricey for me, that's why I use a service bureau for my occasional use.  Whatever home printer you buy for £1000 can't compare for quality compared to one that's a hundred times the price, funnily enough.

 

The CAD software I use is because I use it at work, this whole thing started off because I was bored during long lunchbreaks.  I only really use it for the chassis design, the bodyshell designs I buy for between £0 and £100, then it takes another £60 from an agency to convert the surfaces into something that can be 3D printed.  After that, getting the bodyshell printed is "only" about £40 because of the SLS process I've chosen.  An SLA gives better surface finish but it's around 3 times the price.

 

See above, mostly.  Once the master model is 3D printed then I need to spend a while getting the surface smooth with painting and sanding, then I pour silicone around it to make a mould.  From there I can take resin cast bodyshells, but also I get an interior made as vacform, windows made the same way, I design the graphics and get them printed as waterslide transfers and get the wheel inserts (hubcaps, basically) designed and printed and cast the same as the bodyshell.

Good Lord - Not down to ALDI price yet then eh??? l

[Ghosty]

i can haz a nu kar from furrin cuntry

 

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looks abit mishimushi/vulva at the front

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and a bit alfa/seat/mazda at the back

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Bloody hell, Proton badged Mitsi Lancer!

26 years and they're still making them...

[FakeConcern]

50p boot fair this morning.

 

 

[Pillock]

Plastic Kit Pervs: Anyone know of any 1:24 Beavertail or recovery truck kits?

I have an idea for a diorama. 

 

Failing that, a 1:24 van of some sort (transit, LT35, Renault Master - owt really) and I can scratchbuild a rear for it.

[junkyarddog]

1:76 Oxford shite

Good detail on them for the size.

Think the transit beavertail is the dogs danglers

 

[Junkman]

Plastic Kit Pervs: Anyone know of any 1:24 Beavertail or recovery truck kits?

I have an idea for a diorama. 

 

Failing that, a 1:24 van of some sort (transit, LT35, Renault Master - owt really) and I can scratchbuild a rear for it.

 

The overwhelming majority of light commercials in kit form would be Yank or Jap. Very few of these come/came in recovery, let alone beavertail flavour, so conversion is the only game in town. There are virtually no model kits of European light commercials. ESCI once made a Transit MKII, the last one I saw sold in excess of £175. It is like shit from a toothed rocking hen.

 

Yanks that come/came as recoveries:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Factory-Sealed-Revell-77-GMC-Wrecker-Truck-1-25-Scale-Model-Kit-10-24-Towing-/111728603432

 

There was also a 1967 Chevy Fleetside pickup that had a tow truck option included. It was reissued as Cooter's tow truck from the Dukes of Hazzard series. Good luck finding one now.

 

Emhar makes a series of Bedford Os, also in recovery flavour:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EMHAR-KITS-BEDFORD-O-SWB-LWB-TRUCK-1-24-SCALE-PLASTIC-CONSTRUCTION-KIT-/181312894334

 

But this might be not what you want vintage-wise.

 

Heller announced a 1/24 scale Citroen HY to be released later this year, which could be converted into something like this:

 

 

 

But even when it comes to modernish European diecast stuff you could convert, you are more or less stuffed.

The only real beavertail currently available is Yank as well:

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/JADA-FAST-FURIOUS-7-INTERNATIONAL-DURASTAR-4400-FLATBED-TOW-TRUCK-1-24-97218-/151749045078

[Pillock]

There's a facelift Mk2 Transit in 1:24 on eBay right now, but it looks like a dealer model or something - the text on the box is simply "Ford Transit" rather than the maker. Seems a shame to chop it up but it's bidding at just £20 right now.

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1984-FORD-TRANSIT-1-24-MODEL-KIT-/161795088341?hash=item25abbd1fd5

 

Actually, turns out it's an ESCI kit but reboxed by Ford for promotional use. Are you sure they're rare? There's loads of people chopping them up to make LWB, pickups and the like. 

[sheffcortinacentre]

that was by humbrol  should have both rhd & lhd dashes.

 

I've got a yellow one that I want to beavertail.

[Junkman]

The ESCI Transit was issued in several guises:

 

- The dealer promotional currently on ebay

 

- A Hertz hire van, moulded in yellow

 

- A Canon cameras Paris-Dakar version, moulded in white

 

- A "Spitfire" custom van that contained extra sprues with customising parts, moulded in blue.

 

They were issued under the ESCI, ESCI/Airfix and Airfix/Humbrol labels.

 

It's always exactly the same kit in different boxes, just moulded from different colour plastic. All of them contain RHD and LHD dashboards.

All of them command ultra stiff money. If you don't believe it, just watch the one currently on Ebay.

[Pillock]

Ah well, my hopes of retiring on the profit made by buying it for £20 and immediately selling it on will be shot.

I was wondering why the OSF boys would chop up a valuable kit, but then I remembered they're OSF boys and when you're paying £25k for a mediocre small family saloon car from the 70s, money is no object.

 

I'm still luzzing a last minute bid on it though.

[Junkman]

It's the year 2015. Not 1986. That's the problem.

[sheffcortinacentre]

yep mines the hertz one & yes value is what keeps stopping me modding it!

[Junkman]

Value has never kept me away from building a kit, or cutting it up for a conversion.

That's what they were made for. They weren't made for being traded by people with more money than braincells on Ebay.

However, if you don't want to 'destroy' a mint virgin, which I can understand, try to find a 'builder', which is a model that has been previously - well - built,

but not to a very high standard, and restore it. There are various known methods to remove paint from plastic.