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[Pillock]

E LAD.

THAT'S A REET CRACKIN BUS LAD.

[kirton]

Anyone here on the Exeter to Minehead run on Monday?

[cms206]

LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE LIKE etc...

I did also.

Ooof. A 425 is very much on my 'to drive' list.

I never honestly thought I'd get the chance... sadly this is now more or less it's final resting place - it's due for disembowelment to keep my TM's preserved 425 fit.

 

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[RoadworkUK]

When I mention to friends that these are named after their drag coefficient figure, they immediately stop listening.

[tooSavvy]

AFN 201B.... Why the smudge out, I wonder

 

*google pics

 

 

TS

[Inspector Morose]

Another Guy Arab Queen Mary under construction.

 

 

Except these were real.

[jon.k]

Whoever said you should never meet your heroes is a fucking liar.

 

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This is so much up my street it's not true!

[Guest Hooli]

When I mention to friends that these are named after their drag coefficient figure, they immediately stop listening.

 

Friends?

[RoadworkUK]

Friends?

The plural may have been me rounding up.

[Zelandeth]

Whoever said you should never meet your heroes is a fucking liar.

 

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Now there's something I've never seen before...what is it and what's it built on?

 

The red line work on the dashboard puts me in mind of the dash in the later Bedford CF vans...

[busmansholiday]

^^^^ Duple Hestair 425. Semi integral, mechanical bits by Dennis with Cummings engine (go like shit if you put a bigger engine in one out of a wagon). Body by Duple except Plaxtons bought Duple and last lot were built in France by a firm they bought there. That closed not much later.

 

Classic interior colour!

[64A60]

Anyone up for some London Transport Country area action next week? Based at Watford Junction Station. 

 

[busmansholiday]

AFN 201B.... Why the smudge out, I wonder

 

*google pics

 

TS

or possibly because today's April 1st.

[Zelandeth]

I couldn't visit the US without snapping one of these could I?

 

Sorry it's not a great photo, poor lighting and from the far side of the road.

 

 

Sadly not the same without all the chrome and the Detroit two stroke soundtrack...

[quicksilver]

I couldn't visit the US without snapping one of these could I?

 

Sorry it's not a great photo, poor lighting and from the far side of the road.

 

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Sadly not the same without all the chrome and the Detroit two stroke soundtrack...

But isn't it illegal to take photos of Greyhound coaches? I'm sure I read something in the enthusiast press a few years ago that Greyhound were trying to ban people from photographing their coaches but I can't remember what bollocks they used to justify it, something about protecting their brand identity or similar bullshit maybe.

[Yoss]

Anyone up for some London Transport Country area action next week? Based at Watford Junction Station. 

 

 

Yes. I'm on this now. I don't even really know what it is.

It's a T apparently, it's very hard to type on. Even I'm avoiding Routemasters today.

[Yoss]

That didn't work, try this.

[Yoss]

Ok, it's a 1948 AEC Regal.

 

[Pillock]

But isn't it illegal to take photos of Greyhound coaches? I'm sure I read something in the enthusiast press a few years ago that Greyhound were trying to ban people from photographing their coaches but I can't remember what bollocks they used to justify it, something about protecting their brand identity or similar bullshit maybe.

 

 

• Please don’t take photos, video or make audio recordings of Greyhound staff, equipment or procedures (most of us haven’t been to acting school and just want to do our jobs).

That's from https://www.greyhound.com/en/help-and-info/travel-info/your-rights-rules-on-board

However that's only the rules on board, I'm pretty sure they can't stop you taking photos of anything in the public domain unless it's some sort of national security threat. 

[quicksilver]

Ok, it's a 1948 AEC Regal.

 

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So does anyone know why London Transport decided to call their AEC Regals the T class? I can't see how a T relates to the model name in any way and it would suit the Leyland Tiger far better so was it just LT being perverse?

[Asimo]

60 years of progress?

 

 

Maybe, but one has more charm than the other. A lot more.

[jon.k]

I think those earlier Solos could be remembered quite fondly in 50 years.  They look quite distinctive compared to lots of new buses, and the later models which look more generic.

[Yoss]

So does anyone know why London Transport decided to call their AEC Regals the T class? I can't see how a T relates to the model name in any way and it would suit the Leyland Tiger far better so was it just LT being perverse?

 

Is it anything to do with Tillings? Just a guess, I have no idea, this bus is 1948 so it's LT but I don't know how far back they go. I'm a bit lost pre-RT/RF. But like how some garage codes make no sense until you realise the T is for Tillings. TC - Tillings Croydon, TL for Catford garage is Tillings Lewisham.

 

I did notice when I was on this earlier that it entered preservation in 1967! That's good going. It's been preserved a year longer than I've been alive. Very tidy too. I wonder how many times it's been restored in those 51 years.

 

Edit: just had a little look on Ian's Bus Stop and there are no entries between 1971 and 1997. Also it was new to Watford and spent some years at Garston so today really was some sort of homecoming.

 

Noticed also that most of the fleet were sold to the Ceylon Transport Board between 1958/60 So can only imagine what sort of life they led.

[Felly Magic]

Keep a look out for D601MWR at rallies up north now, it's MOT'd, and taxed, and work has started on former demo Freight Rover Sherpa B818YKR, which runs again, and bodywork will be started on very soon, people have commented the livery is very similar to the one used on the loaftin in early Fireman Sam episodes, even down to the yellow destination blinds as used by Yorkshire Rider on their loaf fleet. 

[rml2345]

So does anyone know why London Transport decided to call their AEC Regals the T class? I can't see how a T relates to the model name in any way and it would suit the Leyland Tiger far better so was it just LT being perverse?

The code came from London General (LGOC) which was one of the companies that formed a large part of LT when it was created in 1933. Their previous standard class has been the 'S' type so presumably 'T' just followed on from there although some think it may have been short for "Type". They also used 'ST', for the original 25ft Regent double decker and 'LT' for the three axle Renown. When the Regent was extended to 26ft it became an 'STL' and that did us until the 'RT' turns up at the end of the 30s. Don't ask what that stands for as no one knows for sure!

[Inspector Morose]

Regent Three? That seems to be the consensus but, as you say, nobody really knows for sure as different drawings have different definitions on them.

However, AEC did send RT19 out on a demonstration tour around the municipalities early on in its life and the transfer (none of that sticky paper rubbish, you know) proclaimed it as the "AEC RT" type bus so who knows?

Luckily the preceding type of single deck to that T type above was the Q type. That really did stand for AEC Q. Glorious machines.

[Pillock]

 

 

60 years of progress?

 

 

Maybe, but one has more charm than the other. A lot more.

Perhaps, but one will take wheelchairs, get there faster and be more comfortable. They're nice to look at but I'd be horrified if a vintage bus turned up to get me to work every day on time.

[Pillock]

yet the train spotters get all over excited if Vintage traction is used in daily service , whether that;s the HST or heritage diesels hauling inaccessible stock vis the roll out of new stock such as the 80x series of units

An HST is accessible with a ramp, although yeah that's not ideal long term. In terms of speed and comfort, they're equal to or better than the latest sets. Line speed is rarely over 125mph.

 

Heritage locos with old stock I think are only used as an alternative to equally inaccessible and shonky DMUs, for example on the wherry lines in place of a 150/155

 

The two buses in the picture are more akin to replacing an 800 with a 101 DMU or even a steam train and compartment rolling stock, there's quite an age difference there. I'd be equally horrified if either of those turned up to get me to work on time

[martc]

Perhaps, but one will take wheelchairs, get there faster and be more comfortable. They're nice to look at but I'd be horrified if a vintage bus turned up to get me to work every day on time.

 

and all the resulting railway chat

 

You can do this for real, including lack of wheelchair access, each time a Class 142 Pacer turns up.

 

(for the uninitiated, it's the type with the Leyland National coachwork (and lack of wheelchair access which will be the death of them - hurrah))

[rml2345]

I had a hurl on a Pacer last year and thought it was quite acceptable really. However I don't have to use one every day so the novelty hasn't worn off.