1993 BTCC memories

[bezzabsa]

just come across this vid

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Thanks, love BTCC

Best motor racing out there 👍

[HMC]

I Used to watch it (think it was on grandstand?) and remember  the 1993 ish clash with cleland and soper etc with hand gestures and bent bodywork.

 

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Ever seen the interview with them after ( I think) TOCA summonsed them, and they had a meeting beforehand @HMC?

They obviously realised they were in the shit, brilliant damage limitation exercise 😁

[Spiny Norman]

The mid 90s was a golden age for the BTCC, the manufacturers were flinging £££millions at it and the racing reflected the hunger to win, if only F1 was like that. 

[wesacosa]

https://www.supertouringpower.com/

I can really recommend this for 90s touring car fans, coming up in a couple of weeks 

[wesacosa]

1 hour ago, HMC said:

I Used to watch it (think it was on grandstand?) and remember  the 1993 ish clash with cleland and soper etc with hand gestures and bent bodywork.

 

That was the 1992 season finale, the race that really catapulted the BTCC 

 

 

[warren t claim]

I was there watching from the Craner Curves. 

[warren t claim]

Did anyone else play this on their PS1?

I used to favour the rather average Pug 406 but use the PUNCHY cheat code to disable the championship disqualification meaning I could race the entire season without having to win.

[dozeydustman]

I can’t remember if it was 1992 or 1993, my dad was given some tickets to see BTCC at Brands by a family friend who worked there (and still does!). Was the Volvo 850 estate season.

By late 1994 I was working there as well, of the mainstream race series BTCC is one of the best ones.

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3 hours ago, dozeydustman said:

I can’t remember if it was 1992 or 1993, my dad was given some tickets to see BTCC at Brands by a family friend who worked there (and still does!). Was the Volvo 850 estate season.

By late 1994 I was working there as well, of the mainstream race series BTCC is one of the best ones.

Volvo estate was 1994

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7 hours ago, warren t claim said:

Did anyone else play this on their PS1?

I used to favour the rather average Pug 406 but use the PUNCHY cheat code to disable the championship disqualification meaning I could race the entire season without having to win.

Yes, It was one of the best racing games of the time. Not only the BTCC cars but all the other cars you could unlock too.

I was so excited when they brought the 3rd installment, World Touring Cars, out as it had a career mode and tracks like Bathhurst but they had totally changed the way the cars handled to a more arcade type model and it just completely ruined it

[Amishtat]

Was it 1993 or 94 that Top Gear got the showroom version of the cars and let the racing drivers rag them round a track?  I can remember watching it at the time and enjoying it but never found it on YouTube since.

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1 hour ago, Amishtat said:

Was it 1993 or 94 that Top Gear got the showroom version of the cars and let the racing drivers rag them round a track?  I can remember watching it at the time and enjoying it but never found it on YouTube since.

1993

The clip from the OP on this thread is from there

and this is the full version on YT

 

 

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14 hours ago, wesacosa said:

https://www.supertouringpower.com/

I can really recommend this for 90s touring car fans, coming up in a couple of weeks 

Some of the current touring cars guys there too, Tom Ingram is racing a sierra rs 500, and Colin Turkington is in ( I think) a cavalier 😁

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Just now, comfortablynumb said:

Some of the current touring cars guys there too, Tom Ingram is racing a sierra rs 500, and Colin Turkington is in ( I think) a cavalier 😁

yeah there usually are a few.. Jake Hill and Adam Morgan were racing last year too

For me this year the highlights are going to be the 850 Estate doing a demo run and the 93 Xedos racing 

[chaseracer]

1 hour ago, wesacosa said:

1993

The clip from the OP on this thread is from there

and this is the full version on YT

 

 

I wonder if any of the cars have survived?  Good to see the much-missed Will Hoy.

Robb Gravett did the 2CV 24-hour 20-odd years ago.  Many other BTCC drivers have also done the big race, including Mr TOCA himself, Alan Gow.

[wesacosa]

1 hour ago, chaseracer said:

I wonder if any of the cars have survived?  Good to see the much-missed Will Hoy.

Robb Gravett did the 2CV 24-hour 20-odd years ago.  Many other BTCC drivers have also done the big race, including Mr TOCA himself, Alan Gow.

I looked up the Xedos recently, it lasted until 2008

[R Lutz]

17 hours ago, wesacosa said:

That was the 1992 season finale, the race that really catapulted the BTCC 

 

 

Thank-you for posting that. Brilliant.

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Murray walker, what a legend 

RIP , there'll never be another 

[Spiny Norman]

Charlie Cox was pretty good for one liners too. 
"He's gone so far of the circuit he'll need to buy a ticket to get back in" was one of my favourites, describing some hapless driver's excursion into the greenery at Church corner during a Thruxton race. 

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I like Tim Harvey too, he's shown he can walk the walk, now he's able to talk the talk too.

He's not scared of saying what he thinks either, probably caused a bit of consternation with the organisers sometimes 😁

[Metal Guru]

30 minutes ago, comfortablynumb said:

I like Tim Harvey too, he's shown he can walk the walk, now he's able to talk the talk too.

He's not scared of saying what he thinks either, probably caused a bit of consternation with the organisers sometimes 😁

He’s a bit obsessed about tyres. Last week (Thruxton) was great, all on the same tyres, all the time. No endless guff about hard v soft and no artificial racing.

[wesacosa]

49 minutes ago, Spiny Norman said:

Charlie Cox was pretty good for one liners too. 
"He's gone so far of the circuit he'll need to buy a ticket to get back in" was one of my favourites, describing some hapless driver's excursion into the greenery at Church corner during a Thruxton race. 

This series is a good listen . A mixture of interview episodes and look back at specific race weekend episodes 

There's a Charlie Cox interview episode this series too

https://open.spotify.com/show/7hLT1WAWpHnAYA4XcEs4n7?si=KO-OYbBHTUqgcQCF7OZC2g

 

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Tbf @Metal Guru,it does make a hell of a difference between lap times. I've found he goes on about Sutton a bit much sometimes, but his opinion about not being able to run out on a corner and put an overtaking car onto the grass made me laugh, after all, it's what they all  did when he was racing.

If you're trying to take the racing line I think it's a bit daft too, like the tyrebales he hates, and with good reason IME 

[Joey spud]

Back in the nineties i ran a rural garage and the Vauxhall parts rep used to visit weekly to top up my vx service kits ( I also kept a couple of lock sets and upper steering column castings on the shelf  too) and whenever the touring cars were at Brands Hatch we would get given a handful of complimentary entry tickets.

I can remember one year the two Toyota Carina's were running 2nd and 3rd but took each other out right in front of us on the run up to Dingle dell letting the Cavalier of John Cleland claim an easy win.

[Pieman]

13 minutes ago, Joey spud said:

I can remember one year the two Toyota Carina's were running 2nd and 3rd but took each other out right in front of us on the run up to Dingle dell letting the Cavalier of John Cleland claim an easy win.

That was 1992, Will Hoy spearing Andy Rouse and himself off.

Then a year later, Will is in the new Carina E leading team mate Julian Bailey in front of the British Grand Prix crowd at Silverstone when Julian harpoons into the back of him with such force he rolls him over, taking both cars out of the race.  I'm surprised Julian didn't get the sack for that.

"The car upside down is a Toyota!" - (Sir) Murray Walker.

Slightly sadly, the above incident is the only thing that race is remembered for and means that Kieth Odor's victory, his one and only in the BTCC, is largely forgotten.

[Pieman]

9 hours ago, Spiny Norman said:

Charlie Cox was pretty good for one liners too. 
"He's gone so far of the circuit he'll need to buy a ticket to get back in" was one of my favourites, describing some hapless driver's excursion into the greenery at Church corner during a Thruxton race. 

My favourite part of the Cox era is this sequence:
 

Not only the "Terminator with a water pistol" line and "IT'S A GOAL!" but look how hard Thompson gets blasted in the driver's door by Muller and he doesn't even lift off the throttle!

[High Jetter]

31 minutes ago, Joey spud said:

John Cleland

Legend. Much more entertaining then than the current cars.

[Metal Guru]

1 hour ago, High Jetter said:

Legend. Much more entertaining then than the current cars.

It was much better when it was still a contact sport.