bunglebus Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 How about an ambitious roof rack? lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, bunglebus said: How about an ambitious roof rack? Skull duggery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightBulbFun Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 4 hours ago, bunglebus said: How about an ambitious roof rack? pretty sure I can win/kill this one right away! LOL and its worse then it looks because its a *Villiers* machine, 197cc, 8.6Hp, single Jingle 2 stroke, just what you want for moving a triple settee up the welsh hills (which is where the shot was taken!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 2/8/2023 at 11:34 PM, Faker said: Yeah I was just running it back to the storage facility. Yaris 1.3 has a towing capacity of 1050kg, Brian James is 600kg empty. Towed it no problem Just don’t get caught because enforcement will ring you a new bum hole. Lol 😂 Faker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
castros_bro Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 Hercules Post Mofa Kabinenroller bunglebus, RayMK, catsinthewelder and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 I was going to put this in the caravan thread. Might still do it. But this is what happens when no one is taught how to do it correctly. edit: According to the facebook police, the panda wasnt the tow car. But still looks ambitious. Turns out it was towed by an X5 that the towbar fell off. bunglebus and somewhatfoolish 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Just had to abort a job to fit a towbar to a 2022 Rav 4 hybrid. Chap has just bought a swift 530, at 1400kg.. the Rav maximum towing capacity is 800kg.. WTF? Dyslexic Viking, AnnoyingPentium and Lacquer Peel 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 18 minutes ago, Barry Cade said: Just had to abort a job to fit a towbar to a 2022 Rav 4 hybrid. Chap has just bought a swift 530, at 1400kg.. the Rav maximum towing capacity is 800kg.. WTF? Seeing this more and more. I am sure I have read that one of the considerations vehicle manufacturers have to take into account is the weight a vehicle can tow up a 1-in-6 hill (which is bloody steep actually). WIth the direct-drive fixed ratio of motor-to-wheels, they just cannot tow 2+tonnes up such an incline. This is also why vehicles have GTW weights rather than "towing" weights. You can trade weight between the trailer and vehicle within certain limits, as the overall limit is based on how much weight can actually be dragged up an incline. On the flat-and-level, a fiat panda could probably pull 10 tonnes (slowly). Up an incline though? not likely. It's part of the reason that anything with a low-box often has such a high towing capacity. Shove it in low-box 1st, and you have enough gear reduction to be able to pull said weight up a hill. Electric drive just doesn't have this ability. lesapandre and Missy Charm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Guru Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, Talbot said: Seeing this more and more. I am sure I have read that one of the considerations vehicle manufacturers have to take into account is the weight a vehicle can tow up a 1-in-6 hill (which is bloody steep actually). WIth the direct-drive fixed ratio of motor-to-wheels, they just cannot tow 2+tonnes up such an incline. This is also why vehicles have GTW weights rather than "towing" weights. You can trade weight between the trailer and vehicle within certain limits, as the overall limit is based on how much weight can actually be dragged up an incline. On the flat-and-level, a fiat panda could probably pull 10 tonnes (slowly). Up an incline though? not likely. It's part of the reason that anything with a low-box often has such a high towing capacity. Shove it in low-box 1st, and you have enough gear reduction to be able to pull said weight up a hill. Electric drive just doesn't have this ability. Old fashioned 4x4s generally had a rigid chassis so could tow 3.5 tons without distorting the body work which most monocoques can’t. lesapandre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 6 minutes ago, Metal Guru said: Old fashioned 4x4s generally had a rigid chassis so could tow 3.5 tons without distorting the body work which most monocoques can’t. Given that a unibody is generally stiffer than a chassis-type vehicle, I'm not sure that follows. Lacquer Peel, goosey and lesapandre 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Guru Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 1 minute ago, Talbot said: Given that a unibody is generally stiffer than a chassis-type vehicle, I'm not sure that follows. The actual body might be less but the chassis is rigid. I had a Daihatsu Fourtrak, the body was made of thin metal and fibreglass but the chassis was like girders. cort1977 and lesapandre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 4 hours ago, Talbot said: Seeing this more and more. I am sure I have read that one of the considerations vehicle manufacturers have to take into account is the weight a vehicle can tow up a 1-in-6 hill (which is bloody steep actually). WIth the direct-drive fixed ratio of motor-to-wheels, they just cannot tow 2+tonnes up such an incline. This is also why vehicles have GTW weights rather than "towing" weights. You can trade weight between the trailer and vehicle within certain limits, as the overall limit is based on how much weight can actually be dragged up an incline. On the flat-and-level, a fiat panda could probably pull 10 tonnes (slowly). Up an incline though? not likely. It's part of the reason that anything with a low-box often has such a high towing capacity. Shove it in low-box 1st, and you have enough gear reduction to be able to pull said weight up a hill. Electric drive just doesn't have this ability. Just remember this Is a hybrid, but has a 2.5 petrol engine. Other Rav models can tow 1600kg, so no problem with body strength etc. All to do with the hybrid and the vehicles weight.. any caravanners out there, look after what you have... this looks like the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Yet another hidden reason why these things are impractical in the real world I believe that towing can easily more than half their range too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 13 hours ago, Barry Cade said: Just remember this Is a hybrid, but has a 2.5 petrol engine. Other Rav models can tow 1600kg, so no problem with body strength etc. All to do with the hybrid and the vehicles weight.. any caravanners out there, look after what you have... this looks like the future. The wife currently has a 20 plate Rav 4 hybrid. I looked into its towing capacity when we first had it and was shocked. It seams the 2wd versions aren’t type approved for anything over what the manufacturer states. 750+50…. Or something like that? But I think the 4wd version can tow much higher weight. I have seen these cars with tow bars but unless you’re using a small garden trailer, there’s no point even fitting one to a 2wd. Shame really as the new rav4 is a nice steer! Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnoyingPentium Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 14 hours ago, Barry Cade said: Just remember this Is a hybrid, but has a 2.5 petrol engine. Other Rav models can tow 1600kg, so no problem with body strength etc. All to do with the hybrid and the vehicles weight.. any caravanners out there, look after what you have... this looks like the future. That's why my Grampa isn't changing car. There's nothing he's overly keen on in the large family class that's either heavy enough to tow, or cheap enough for him to buy outright. He doesn't want one of these horrid crossover lumps either. Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erebus Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Spotted on Facebook: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunglebus Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 What do we think, tacho fitted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 4 hours ago, bunglebus said: What do we think, tacho fitted? Could be legit. Should be under 3.5t if the Sprinter is empty and might not be hire or reward 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 28 minutes ago, Barry Cade said: Could be legit. Should be under 3.5t if the Sprinter is empty and might not be hire or reward 😄 I’d be more worried about the weather forecast. One good cross wind would see that on its side 🤣 Barry Cade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cade Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 33 minutes ago, sutty2006 said: I’d be more worried about the weather forecast. One good cross wind would see that on its side 🤣 That's what the windsock on the back door is for 😆 sutty2006 and Tickman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 12 hours ago, Erebus said: Spotted on Facebook: Seen many towing caravans over the years. Erebus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 22 hours ago, sheffcortinacentre said: Seen many towing caravans over the years. Early 80'svone in Sheffield the old guy has had for years tows a 10ft 4 berth with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adw1977 Posted October 13 Share Posted October 13 848cc Lacquer Peel and bunglebus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdkrc Posted November 20 Author Share Posted November 20 Dan_ZTT, hennabm and Lacquer Peel 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovylee Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Not sure I'll be towing much with this one 🤣 sdkrc, Lacquer Peel and Matty 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuew Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 sdkrc and Lacquer Peel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
High Jetter Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 2 hours ago, groovylee said: Not sure I'll be towing much with this one 🤣 2 tyred? groovylee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 10 hours ago, groovylee said: Not sure I'll be towing much with this one 🤣 Dunno, is it not rear engined? Imagine the traction with a twin axle caravan on the back as well!!! groovylee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffcortinacentre Posted November 22 Share Posted November 22 Imagine the type of idiot who'd try to tow a twin axle caravan with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
groovylee Posted November 23 Share Posted November 23 21 hours ago, sheffcortinacentre said: Imagine the type of idiot who'd try to tow a twin axle caravan with that. *Unhooks caravan and backs away slowly, whistling* "Not me" 🤣 horriblemercedes, sdkrc, Matty and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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