The grumpy thread

[RedSparrow]

Unemployed but still has money to spend on several project cars, hair dye and stupid punk revival revival revival clothes. Calls himself a skinhead.

 

Middle class rebellious type detected.

[vulgalour]

Assumptions about lifestyle and financial circumstances detected.

 

[pompei]

That thread reminds me why I hardly ever look at RR any more

[Lankytim]

Mr B is right, that old motor has had it, he may as well be a banger racer!

 

[trigger]

It reminds me of that tidy burgundy Hillman Minx that got the budget gasser treatment.

 

1962 Hillman Super Minx by Trigger's Retro Road Tests!, on Flickr

 

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... ead=103866

[Lankytim]

Crikey, what a spaz!

[Lufthansa-Terminal]

Can someone link the Triumph thread again please? I could so with something to read.

 

 

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... 765&page=1

[TimothyClaypole]

Making a BIG mistake telling the missus that we are invited to my sister's wedding NEXT (2013) June... cue what sort/style/type of dress she should wear talk everyday since.

 

 

 

I've told my sister it's her fault so she can sort her out.

[Louise2cv]

Urgh wedding shopping.

 

I have another three weddings to attend this year (one done already), I hate shopping and I look stupid in dresses. Esp as for 2 weddings I'm going to be extra fat and then for one I will be having to breastfeed every five minutes.

 

I'm happy for the couples involved and I'm honoured to be going to join the celebrations BUT I HATE shopping!

[M'coli]

Congratulations, Louise! I hope it all goes well for you. Is it safe to assume you're not one of these ultra-competative women who turn up at their friends' weddings with the latest designer baby gear etc.? (Some of my friends Faceache pages illustrate this very well!)

[M'coli]

It reminds me of that tidy burgundy Hillman Minx that got the budget gasser treatment.

 

1962 Hillman Super Minx by Trigger's Retro Road Tests!, on Flickr

 

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... ead=103866

Nah. Retrorides, thanks for encouraging people to utterly fuck up perfectly good examples of cars by onanists who think they are far cooler than they actually are.

 

That car's fucked now. What a cunt.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

That Minx is THE textbook example of how to fuck up a classic car with misguided 'mods', that lad should be banned from owning old motors outright. I remember being astonished at folk 'welcoming' such patently shit modifications. His previous one was a cracking FE VX2300 which he made a half-arsed job of fitting a Ford 2.3 V6 (surely one of the worst engines of all time) into on the roadside, never finshed it, left it sitting ofr ages then eBayd it as a non-runner when the tax was up. A complete fanny. I think hes back on there now as 'hellman', though he spat his dummy and fooked off for a while after copping some more abuse (now moderated away I see) about the hillman.

[Louise2cv]

Thanks M'coli, I'm not into all that no, having Megan has turned me into a bit of a hippy though so I *might* get a new (second hand "new") sling, but that'll be it I think.

 

I wasn't really planning to be taking a 1month old to my sisters wedding, but there you are, I'm sure we'll manage!

[Cavcraft]

I'm only up to the picture of where he's started to jack up that Minx and I can't look any further. What a truly cretinous f*ckwitt that lad is for wrecking a cracking old bus like that.

[Lankytim]

Congrats, Louise! I wan't more kids but Mrs Lankytim keeps making excuses. I may have to bin her off, actually.

[messerschmitt owner]

I'm only up to the picture of where he's started to jack up that Minx and I can't look any further. What a truly cretinous f*ckwitt that lad is for wrecking a cracking old bus like that.

be thankful that you can say he's a f*cking vandal on this website - no negative comments allowed on Retro Rides.

 

The car's not my cup of tea stylewise but how can you ruin anything as solid and as tasty as that!

[M'coli]

Here's the Minx when it was looking damned fine:

I'm only up to the picture of where he's started to jack up that Minx and I can't look any further. What a truly cretinous f*ckwitt that lad is for wrecking a cracking old bus like that.

This it the image that really upset me:

and not a piece of rust in them

Seemingly written entirely without irony - these are parts of the rear wheelarches

[Rocket88]

I cannot think of a less suitable car to turn into a gasser, and if you are going to do it, do it properly, not in this half arsed manner. If he turns up with that at a hot rod show, he'll probably be ridiculed endlessly, and rightly so. The man is a complete bell-end.

[Cavcraft]

I call it 'Forum Fever'. This sort of thing is usually seen on one make websites where the scene followers/brain dead/less talented see lots of people with modified motors and fancy a bit of the action themselves.

The trouble is they lack skills, money and imagination so chopping springs, painting things black with rattle cans and shoving shit filled roof racks onto shit filled cars is actually (seemingly) easy to do.

It's NOT just RR, there's websites all over the shop where people follow the scene because they think it makes them cool but to me the whole shebang is crazy BECAUSE it's the internet.

Posting a picture of a 'modified' car on a forum and loads of captive audience members saying 'yeah, cool man' etc is all you're likely to get, not many people say 'what a heap of shit, why did you do that/you shouldn't have cut the springs/that looks crap' etc so the daft ones just sort of encourage themselves to do more stupid things. It's all very well pissing about with their cars but there's an extremely limited audience when it comes to selling them on, all of a sudden those people who told you your car looked ace are the ones who would love to buy it but say all the 'I live an uneven numbers of streets away and that's unlucky so I don't want it' type of crap. That is why stupidly modified cars end up getting binned and as said it's NOT just RR, check out most one make forums and there will always be some bellend trying to offload some hideously modified shit heap.

There's your problem with the internet, it's a captive audience as said and doing stupid things to cars is going to find favour on many websites as opinions are cheap and not even neccessarily true. To me it's like logging onto a Saxo/Corsa/Nova/Fiesta/whatever forum and telling everyone your bird has run off with your best mate's brother and asking what you should do. You just know at least 78% of the replies will be 'If I were you I'd go round there, cut his knackers off with a toothbrush/smash his face in/burn his house down/kidnap his mum/stab everyone in sight' but in reality the melons who say this are the kind of people who hide under the bed if there's a big moth in the bathroom.

Asking for opinions on the internet is usually (but not always) completely and utterly pointless.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Generally I think the ‘no negativity’ is a worthwhile rule because it stops the board filling up with flame wars (VAUXHALLS R SHIT, NO THEY ARENT U WANKA!!!!! etc) but when someone is blatantly fucking up a rare old motor, on an old car enthusiasts forum, its hard not to say something. If someone came on with an old motor and decided to ‘mod’ it by kicking all the panels in, chundering on the seats and ‘rat look’-ing the cylinder bores with a dremel so it smoked like a fucker, it is the duty of anyone who is an ‘enthusiast’ to publicly call them a wanker!

[Pete-M]

The problem he'll have with that old Trump is that when he goes to sell it he won't be able to afford a lamb kebab with the funds it'll generate.

 

"I don't see matt black cars at the scrappers". That'll be because they go straight over the bridge.

[messerschmitt owner]

The problem he'll have with that old Trump is that when he goes to sell it he won't be able to afford a lamb kebab with the funds it'll generate.

 

"I don't see matt black cars at the scrappers". That'll be because they go straight over the bridge.

He'll get £150 over the bridge, in my part of town, that's 40+ kebabs (30 with chips).

 

And the bridge will be where it is going!

[SambaS]

Banger Racing. That's where that'll go.

[Vin]

It's sad to see the Triumph and Minx on one way trips to the fragger...that's fuggin hipsters for you...

[MrDuke]

I deliberately 'ratted' a mid-70s Raleigh twenty. Flame me, bitches.

[Mr Lobster]

That Minx is such a shame. Not neccesarily my cup of tea but it looked a nice enough old thing that had survived pretty well and in good condition for the best part of fifty years. Then some cockwand gets hold of it and lets it 'evolve' into mixed metals five years down the line.

 

(also, I notice a lot of half arsed 'modifiers' talk about 'seeing where this is going' or letting it 'evolve' and it usually this roughly translates as 'I don't know what I'm doing so I'll end up bodging stuff and making a right cock of half of the work I do)

 

I've nothing against modified old cars, a lot look really good when done right, even rat look can look good when done properly but when they are done on a tiny budget by someone lacking in sklliz they end up looking utter shit.

[MrDuke]

(also, I notice a lot of half arsed 'modifiers' talk about 'seeing where this is going' or letting it 'evolve' and it usually this roughly translates as 'I don't know what I'm doing so I'll end up bodging stuff and making a right cock of half of the work I do)

 

I'd not noticed that but thinking about it now, serious modifiers do seem to have very definite ideas in their heads about how the car's going to look - if money circumstances get in the way, they tend to shelve them until they can carry on with the original plan. Probably doesn't make for an impressive forum thread if it takes you 5 years to finish the look, though I've never had definite plans for mine, but then I've never attempted any huge mods either.

[John F]

OK, I'll play devil's advocate and defend the Minx mong.

 

Firstly, it's his car. He's paid for it, so surely it's up to him what he does with it?

 

Secondly, loads of cars get unsympathetically modified every year by Max Power wannabes, banger rallyists, SpastoMaxi owners, etc., so why is this Minx any different? Is it just because it's old? Yes, it looked shiny & solid - but these things don't fetch much money at the best of times, so there's every chance it might have ended up going round the oval anyway. There are a couple on eBay at the moment, admittedly less tidy but both sub-£500.

 

Thirdly, it's being used at the moment which is a better fate than a lot of unpopularly-styled classics will suffer. And there's a fair chance some other RAT ROD SCENE YO mong will take it on after this mong's done his worst to it.

 

OK, now I'm going to stop defending the Minx mong because I think he's a bell-end and don't share his taste in car modifications.

[dollywobbler]

There's certainly a large dose of "your car, your decision" but that doesn't mean we shouldn't criticise. Just as some people think people who polish engine bays have a few screws loose. You could argue that owning a car that you clean rather than drive is bloody pointless, but at least that isn't ruining it for future generations.

 

I struggle to feel comfortable with any serious modifications of a car. Even when you look at really well done, massively customised stuff. How much of it survives? No, it'll slip down the chain, being gradually more and more neglected, until it ends up with someone who can't afford to have all that customised work re-done - frustratingly, off-the-shelf repair panels no longer fit - so it gets run into the ground and baled. I absolutely love it when you see an original 1970s or 1980s custom car at a show these days, still looking like it did when it was built, but that seems a real rarity. Instead, fashions change, so people lose interest, get rid and start 'improving' something else.

[John F]

I see your point, Ian, but personally I find it difficult to generate a 'curator' feeling for a rather dumpy '60s car that, in stock form, I find ever so slightly depressing.