The grumpy thread

[Felly Magic]

Cav, that has never been the case I don't think. If the insurance company decide it's a total loss, it immediately becomes their property when the settlement happens. It wont be repairable anyway. The B pillar will be bent, the sill is well bent, and odds on so will the floor, and quite possibly the roof.

[simmo]

  Cavette said:

Don't you automatically get to keep the car if it's the other driver's fault?

 

Not sure but it sounds like if its an A or B cat they insist on it being destroyed

 

 

Felly thanx for the advise, do you make a habit of getting battered? I have prescribed myself a course of strong Belguim lager

[simmo]

  Felly Magic said:

Cav, that has never been the case I don't think. If the insurance company decide it's a total loss, it immediately becomes their property when the settlement happens. It wont be repairable anyway. The B pillar will be bent, the sill is well bent, and odds on so will the floor, and quite possibly the roof.

 

Damage wise the photo doesn't really do it justice the roof has gone and the passenger seat is leaning towards the driver's side so probably the floor as well, it drives OK though, apart from the excessive wind noise.

[myglaren]

My Accord was cat C and I got to keep it. Rear ended by a Megan that was launched into me by a Rover 100 that completely fell to bits all over the road.

[Felly Magic]

As a former PCV driver, accidents come part & parcel of the job, because too many knobends on the road cannot see something that is nigh on 9ft wide, almost 15ft high and 40 ft long, and lit up like a Christmas tree. And being deadly serious, booze is something you should be avoiding. One prang that happened to me was in Leeds City centre at a bus stop, when I was hit square on up the back by another bus. I was off work 3 weeks as the force of the impact threw me out of my seat.

[fiatdaft]

Mind get felly to sort out your whiplash claim.

[Craig the Princess]

Cunt of a day (though not as bad as some on here), involving roadworks, Christmas decorations, a major (accidental but self-inflicted) fuck up at work which will take ages to sort out.

 

And it's too cold to even think about work on the Metro.

 

Can someone wake me up in January?

[simmo]

  fiatdaft said:

Mind get felly to sort out your whiplash claim.

 

I have had people all day telling me to make an injury claim; I don't think I will though.

[warren t claim]

  Felly Magic said:

As a former PCV driver, accidents come part & parcel of the job, because too many knobends on the road cannot see something that is nigh on 9ft wide, almost 15ft high and 40 ft long, and lit up like a Christmas tree. And being deadly serious, booze is something you should be avoiding. One prang that happened to me was in Leeds City centre at a bus stop, when I was hit square on up the back by another bus. I was off work 3 weeks as the force of the impact threw me out of my seat.

Oddly enough I've never had anyone run into me in 500,000 miles of truck driving.

[Felly Magic]

  simmo said:

Damage wise the photo doesn't really do it justice the roof has gone and the passenger seat is leaning towards the driver's side so probably the floor as well, it drives OK though, apart from the excessive wind noise.

 

That's an A or B then. Total loss, salvage only. Shame, as it looked tidy. All because some nugget wasn't paying attention.

 

Right for all the sarcastic people here, ONE) The OP has openly admitted they have a sore neck, and by the sounds hit his head on the B pillar which would account for the 'woosiness' they encountered. (minor concussion) and TWO) If it does not ease within a couple of days, they MUST seek medical advice. The spine isn't designed for sideways impacts at all. Side impacts have been proven to do more damage to the body in low speed accidents, and also there is less of the car structure wise to absorb the impact, than say for instance, a rear end shunt, plus the centre structure (passenger cell) is designed to be as rigid as possible in the floor/sill/roof, so the kinetic energy of the impact is passed on to the occupants, and not the car's structure in a side impact. Also there is nothing in place to stop the naturally occurring sideways movement of the neck upon impact, thus increasing the chance of injury. This is why most modern cars now come with curtain airbags, to try and prevent such an injury happening.

Looking at the photo, thankfully this seems to be a fairly low speed shunt, but it can still be enough to do permanent damage. If the car had been a left hooker, it is very possible that the OP would now be spending quite some time in a hospital bed, simply because he would have become part of the crumple zone.

 

As it happened at a roundabout too, the other party has about an 80% chance of being charged with driving without due care, which carries a minimum 3 points and a fine.

 

 

And re Mr Claim's saying he's never been arse ended whilst in a truck, well most of the miles a trucker does nowadays is on the motorway, whereas, bus driving is more in an urban/town/city centre environment, where traffic is much more dense, and the risk of accident increases, plus bus cabs aren't legally required to be fitted with seatbelts. And I may point out that one person was actually killed last year on a 40 mph road when they ploughed straight into a bus at a bus stop. This was in broad daylight on a Friday morning. The force of impact was so bad, it shattered the gearbox casing on the bus, and bent the chassis, and re that incident involving me, it was the second such incident involving the other driver, who was sacked thankfully. I've lost count of how many times I've also witnessed town & city centre accidents, including 2 fatal. Those 2 will stay with me forever.

 

My tip for everyone, is at least do a first aid course at some point in your life. You never know when you may need it.

[Cavcraft]

Oh aye, so is it just a miracle I spent eight years doing countless thousands of miles driving (mostly) 7.5 tonners round rural and A-roads, village/town/city centres and never had a crash, as did (most of) my colleagues at the same place?

[Cavcraft]

Traded going to the football Boxing Day with going out with the breadknife on New Years Eve. I fucking detest drinking in pubs/clubs on NYE, they're always full of dickheads/amateur drinkers and you end up paying over the odds for a shit drink in a shit pub.

[simmo]

  Felly Magic said:

  simmo said:

My tip for everyone, is at least do a first aid course at some point in your life. You never know when you may need it.

 

I started a new job three months ago and on the induction they only teach 'self-aid' which I hadn't even heard of. I am a team leader so I thought first aid would be a must.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I thought everyone over the age of about 14 knew how to 'self-aid'.

[simmo]

  Mr_Bo11ox said:

I thought everyone over the age of about 14 knew how to 'self-aid'.

[warren t claim]

Oh, I'm not some driving god either, I could barely drive a greasy stick up a dead dogs arse but for some reason I don't seem to attract non fault accidents.

 

HGV drivers are regularly involved in low speed rear collisions whenever we reverse onto loading bays, we have to nudge the dock so a fork lift can gain access to our cargo. Also the 5th wheel and kingpin coming together and then pulling forward to check it's engaged and you haven't overshot the pin is also capable of giving you a jolt.

 

All of these situations subject the driver to more force than 90% of the accidents that result in a whiplash claim.

 

I'm surprised banger racers don't spend their lives in the orthopaedic surgeons waiting room.

[OwdChina]

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That's because a lot of padding goes into the headrest area,,,,even though the headrest is missing a lot of pipe insulation material, plywood,pillows, gaffer tape etc etc is put in to combat whiplash. chassis that are too rigid are cut in the right places so that it crumples and absorbs the shock rather than jolt the spine into next week, year etc. Fords dont need any of the latter.

[Lankytim]

Eh??

[ashmicro]

  Cavette said:

Traded going to the football Boxing Day with going out with the breadknife on New Years Eve. I fucking detest drinking in pubs/clubs on NYE, they're always full of dickheads/amateur drinkers and you end up paying over the odds for a shit drink in a shit pub.

 

 

I was working NYE in 1999->2000 on quadruple time, watching a server in case the OMG MILLENNIUM BUG hit. As we know, nothing happened, and I was in the Europa Hotel before 1am for a MASSIVE private function piss up on the firm's coin. Sigh. Those were the days!

 

With you on the pub thing, Billy. The furthest we'll be is Kate's brother's house, which is walking distance home. No wankers and no waiting for 4 hours for a taxi.

[OwdChina]

  Lankytim said:

Eh??

See Mr Claim's post

[scaryoldcortina]

  ashmicro said:

I was working NYE in 1999->2000 on quadruple time, watching a server in case the OMG MILLENNIUM BUG hit. As we know, nothing happened, and I was in the Europa Hotel before 1am for a MASSIVE private function piss up on the firm's coin. Sigh. Those were the days!

 

What do you have planned for 03.14:07 on 19/01/2038?

[Guest]

I'm working on New Year's Eve.

 

I plan to spend New Year's Day looking for a new job.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

I think working on NYE, even better during the change of the year, is brilliant. Gives you a chance to escape the mayhem.

[Guest]

  Luxobarges_Are_Us said:

I think working on NYE, even better during the change of the year, is brilliant. Gives you a chance to escape the mayhem.

 

Except work will be shit, and full of people going off to have a good time. And I'm getting no extra for working it.

 

Also, the manager's a tight fisted arsehole.

[Pete-M]

Working NYE isn't that unusual. I think I've had roughly 3/10 NYEs off during my working life. I'm on standby this year.

 

Don't see the problem with it. Part of life. NYE isn't special anyway, and drunk people make me want to kill them.

[maxpower]

i used to look forward to NYE and having a piss up and probably getting on peoples nerves

but i gave up the demon booze almost 11yrs ago... and now when some drunk comes up to me gargling some jibberish i can't make a word of, i see how i used to look to the people that i used to gargle at

now it's just another day to me... and on new years day i get to watch all the drunks from the night before in a&e on sky news.... top quality tv

[M'coli]

  scaryoldcortina said:

  ashmicro said:

I was working NYE in 1999->2000 on quadruple time, watching a server in case the OMG MILLENNIUM BUG hit. As we know, nothing happened, and I was in the Europa Hotel before 1am for a MASSIVE private function piss up on the firm's coin. Sigh. Those were the days!

 

What do you have planned for 03.14:07 on 19/01/2038?

He'll be retired by then, won't he?

[Negative Creep]

Been invited to party in Torquay on NYE but I'm working until 10 on the Saturday and starting at 9 on Sunday. So that will be a night sitting around on my own then

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

  scaryoldcortina said:

  ashmicro said:

I was working NYE in 1999->2000 on quadruple time, watching a server in case the OMG MILLENNIUM BUG hit. As we know, nothing happened, and I was in the Europa Hotel before 1am for a MASSIVE private function piss up on the firm's coin. Sigh. Those were the days!

 

What do you have planned for 03.14:07 on 19/01/2038?

 

Gonna party like it's 1970.

[mk1_4dr]

I got sent home from work last night.

 

After the accident last Friday I'v not really stopped. If I haven't been trying to find someone to move the car back home (something which still hasn't happened, Im not paying 85quid for 4miles recovery), Ive been on the phone to the insurance company or solicitor trying to work out what happens now and whlle Im on the phone I pace.

Basically, when I got to work last night, It was the first time I'd sat for any extended period since the smash and boy did my back, shoulders, neck and knees all made sure I knew about it after an hour.

Ive been to the Dr's today and he's given me a 2week sick note so it looks like Ive got the pleasure of sitting alone in the flat this Christmas and New Year.

Also, the assessor rang after inspecting escRot. £1500 is his first offer. Not enough was my answer.

To be fair the guy sounds genuinely interested in the car however, he said he's struggling to find any for sale to get a grasp on the value.

 

Not a good week.

 

In other news, the hire car is actually pretty decent, even if I did have to google what it looked like so I could find it when it was delivered.