The grumpy thread

[Tetleysmooth]

Work tonight.

 

I usually start at 17.00, but tonight I start at 19.00 for........CPC training. Oh joy.

 

Still, may be a blessing is disguise, looking at the weather forecast.

High winds apparently, and warning to drivers of high sided vehicles.

I wouldn't fancy a double decker (the trailer, not the chocolate bar), in weather like that.

[Tetleysmooth]

It's BOMB-BAR-DEE-AY because it's a Canadian company with headquarters in Quebec and that's how they pronounce it.

 

Fair do's.

Every day is a school day.

I even know how to pronounce pronunciation now too. Yay.

[Parky]

Something is really boiling my piss at the moment.

Bombardier.

Why do all the trendy media pronounce it as BOMB-BAR-DEE-AY?

The correct way of saying it (to the best of my knowledge) is BOMB-BAR-DEER.

Surely, it's an old army rank, isn't it?

It's interesting you say that as we have this at work all the time. People who work for them pronounce it BOMB-BAR-DEE-AY despite it being obvious to us it should be BOMB-BAR-DEER.

 

I think it's probably because being a Canadian company, they have a lot of French influence within the firm.

 

In many ways it's like growing up with Nestle products. Always pronounced NESSIL when I was growing up, nowadays it is NEST-LAY. Being Swiss the second one is undoubtedly correct but it still feels kind of wrong!

 

EDIT - beaten by Vin, taking too long to type!

[Kiltox]

Bollocks, go and thunderpunch him in the throat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

FTFY

[Tetleysmooth]

Agreed.

 

I always used to call it NESSELS too.

So did all my family.

Must be an East End thing Parky.

[Parky]

I reckon you are right there!

[Tetleysmooth]

Us Brits have our own way of saying different words.

 

I did read that during World War 1, British soldiers used to call Ypres - wipers.

[Louise2cv]

It's snowing a bit here. But... I actually have no milk or bread.

 

I'm going to look like... One of those people.

[Parky]

Us Brits have our own way of saying different words.

 

I did read that during World War 1, British soldiers used to call Ypres - wipers.

That's true - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wipers_Times

[Kiltox]

As long as you don’t buy 72 loaves and sixteen gallons you’ll be fine

[anonymous user]

It's snowing a bit here. But... I actually have no milk or bread.

 

I'm going to look like... One of those people.

But every time it snows I always get an overwhelming desire for blancmange on toast.

[Talbot]

Yo Talbot, you're coming across like the ultimate pub expert.

I know. Hence my apology above/previously.

 

Whilst I don't have first-hand experience of this *exact* system, as a Mechanical and Electrical Design Engineer, I do come into contact with the design of Lead-Acid and Sealed-Lead-Acid battery charging systems used in high-power and long-duration UPSs. We're just beginning to see a few systems specified with AGM batteries (due to their deeper-cycle capacity), and although I've yet to see the charging profile needed for them, the equipment is basically identical to that used for SLA, so cannot be radically different. The suppliers do have a procedure for testing the charging profile of the equipment with nothing more than a decent multimeter, as it is entirely based on voltage profiles.

 

I'm also (as I mentioned above) extremely skeptical when it comes to a dealer/garage saying "ooohhh.. it's very complicated you know..." and then charging a shittonne of cash for the work done.

 

Put those two together, and I start coming over like a know-it-all tosser. And won't just ignore it an move on either.

 

Lesson for me from this; Newish vehicle + Dealer diagnosis + dealer repair = fuckmehowmuchcash? I suspect that has always been true and I'm just somewhat out-of-touch.

[dollywobbler]

 

 

Just an off the cuff remark with no real thought put into it?

 

Easy to lose the tongue in cheek vibe through the written word, but it's Autoshite lore that a few suggestions should be ridiculously over the top.

[5speedracer]

Agreed.

 

I always used to call it NESSELS too.

So did all my family.

Must be an East End thing Parky.

We called it Nessels and I grew up in Lanarkshire!

 

When TV journos talk about a Co being l-eh-veraged, aarghhhh!

It's l-ee-veraged you septic centred twats.

 

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[SiC]

Report him for threatening behaviour, wouldn't advocate anything like the above, should have just told him to fuck off and mind his own business then put weedkiller on his lawn spelling cunt.

The problem is that if I do anything like that, it will cause problems when I come to sell. This explains it better than I can:

 

Remember: That if you are currently selling your property or plan to in the future all disputes with your neighbour that have been formally reported and/or acted upon need to be declared to potential or actual buyers. If you don’t do this, you could be legally challenged or at worst, sued!

 

So it's in my best interests to try and deescalate the situation. Especially as we're looking to upsize in a year or two.

 

Looking back at the video it's not as bad as I remember really. I think it was a mix of the heat of the moment and already being stressed due to other reasons.

[Soap Distant]

Work tonight.

 

I usually start at 17.00, but tonight I start at 19.00 for........CPC training. Oh joy.

 

Still, may be a blessing is disguise, looking at the weather forecast.

High winds apparently, and warning to drivers of high sided vehicles.

I wouldn't fancy a double decker (the trailer, not the chocolate bar), in weather like that.

 

Double deckers are not just trailers, you know.

 

Also fun* in winds.

[Captain Furious]

Does seem a bit salty to charge the diagnostic fee on top of the repair work - but £800 is about what I'd have estimated for a genuine alternator fitted at Ford.  You're probably looking at £400-500 just for the part.

 

Diagnostic Fees are the automotive equivalent of admin charges - ie money for basically fuck all.

[Steve79]

Just had a confrontation with my next door neighbour.

My grandad has gone into a home and given up driving. At the weekend I drove his car back to here, ready for my parents to collect it tomorrow. Anyway I popped outside this evening to give it a quick check over, top up the washer fluid and make sure everything was ok for them. I drove it down to the local Morrisons to use the air pump to top the tyres up. Upon getting there I noticed the rear tyre was completely flat.

I pumped it up, check the others and drove it home. Upon getting home, I got out my code reader to check that it was all clean. At this point my neighbour poked his head out of the window and started talking at me that I'm not supposed to be running a used car business. I politely told him I'm not and that it's my grandads car. He then shouted at me calling me a liar. At this point I started shouting and told him that my grandad is in a home and there is no reason why I can't park where I parked it.

Currently it's parked at the end of our street which is a cul-de-sac. He parks his car on one side and seems to take ownership of the whole end - despite it being a public road. As it has my grandads possentions in, I wanted to keep it at our end of the road. There is absolutely nothing of worth but it all has a lot of sentimental attachment to us and him. Last thing I wanted is to be parked out of sight, someone breaking in and rummaging + breaking through all his stuff.

Anyway at this point he stormed outside and confronted me in my face. I whipped my phone out and started recording. Despite being an old man (late 60s/early 70s), I didn't want him to hit me. Not least I couldn't exactly retaliate to protect myself without it looking like me as the guilty one.

I told him again that it was my grandads car offered him to see inside. He then told me he's going to report me to the tax man/etc.

Bit shaken up but I'm glad I've got it all on video. Fearful of what he may do next. My biggest concern is if he gets our poor little cat involved - he hates cats. I'm considering reporting him to the police but that may only antagonise the situation. Also when we come to move, I believe we'd have to tell the next owners that we have reported him before.

Wouldn't worry about it Si. The amount of arguments i've had with neighbours about my cars parked in street at a property a few years ago was ridiculous.

 

Always the same two people and always the same moan. I was trading at the time and never had more than 3 cars on the go and these guys had a garage each and driveways but always felt the need to not use them.

 

I told them if they kept on complaining that i'd fill the whole fecking street with cars and then really give them something to really moan about!

 

One of them called the police and a copper and hobby bobby (pcso) rock up on my doorstep a few days later. I went to school with the pcso and were family friends. I nicely explained the situation and that as all cars were insured, taxed and mot'd that there was sod all they could and i would be doing about the situation as no laws were being broken!

 

This approach may not be the right one, but then i'm a grumpy twat

[SiC]

Diagnostic Fees are the automotive equivalent of admin charges - ie money for basically fuck all.

Depends on what you mean diagnostics fee. Plugging in a scanner for 5 minutes and hitting go isn't really proper diagnostics - despite what some garages say and do.

 

Proper diagnostics that doesn't involve plugging in and throwing parts at it, is truly worth the money and very likely cheaper in the long run. It's a time consuming, involved and frustrating process to properly diagnose faults. I think this lack of distinction when diagnostics is mentioned, is what really annoys twosmoke and others.

 

A fault code reader is only one tool in the toolbox. Live data, measuring and monitoring signal, understanding how things work, intuition and experience are the others.

[Supernaut]

Once you have moved and the dust has settled, you could always gorilla glue several dildos to his front door in the middle of the night.

 

FTFY

 

 

 

 

My grump? Work.

Even though I posted in the "I love my job thread" a few days ago, I take that back.

 

Basically, I work as a 2nd-line network technician. I'm still on the same pay grade I was on when I worked on service desk in 2013-2014.

Half of the people on service desk are now on the next pay grade up, but I am not. I keep getting obstacles put in my way.

All the while, I'm getting more responsibilities and expectations piled on my shoulders. I'm expected to be running a project to replace wireless access points in various buildings. I've had that expectation ramped up to a building a week. I'm also doing work on the resiliency of the network, and keeping on top of support calls. Meanwhile the people on service desk who escalate calls up to me are getting paid more than me,

 

I'm this close to just handing in my resignation once I'm back from my holiday and looking for contract work. I'd rather be on the dole than doing this. At least the stress level / financial compensation would be more closely matched.

 

Oh yes, I'm also getting hassled to do a training course on IT security. Apparently it's mandatory for all of IT Services staff. You'd think I'd know the basics of IT security, being a fucking network technician! I'm just going to leave it as long as I can and see what manglement say.

[Kiltox]

A dealer level fault code reader costs thousands of pounds to buy and further thousands to update

[Tadhg Tiogar]

 

Something is really boiling my piss at the moment.

Bombardier.

Why do all the trendy media pronounce it as BOMB-BAR-DEE-AY?

The correct way of saying it (to the best of my knowledge) is BOMB-BAR-DEER.

Surely, it's an old army rank, isn't it?

 

It's interesting you say that as we have this at work all the time. People who work for them pronounce it BOMB-BAR-DEE-AY despite it being obvious to us it should be BOMB-BAR-DEER.

 

I think it's probably because being a Canadian company, they have a lot of French influence within the firm.

 

Oui, c'est ça.

 

When I was in school, the word "homage" was pronounced "hommidge". But now, everybody pretends to be French and pronounces it "ommarge". Radio and telly media are notorious for it. 'tis almost as bad as name-dropping.

 

In many ways it's like growing up with Nestle products. Always pronounced NESSIL when I was growing up, nowadays it is NEST-LAY. Being Swiss the second one is undoubtedly correct but it still feels kind of wrong!...

You might remember the telly adverts for Milky Bar, especially the ones broadcast in the 1980s. After the immortal line "The Milky Bars are on me!", the product name is sung and I distinctly remember it being sung as "NESSEL'S Milky Bar".

[Captain Furious]

I think what annoys people, me specifically, is that every job now begins with "Bring it in, we'll get it plugged it into the diagnostic machine, its a £70 charge.."  (Although, looking at this thread, maybe its as much as £150 now)

 

For example..

 

HI there, I need two new tyres, can you give me a quote and some fitting times

Bring it in, we'll get it plugged it into the diagnostic machine, its a £70 charge.

 

Good afternoon, I think my brake pads need replacing

Bring it in, we'll get it plugged it into the diagnostic machine, its a £70 charge.

 

Hi I think my exhaust is blowing could you take a look?

Bring it in, we'll get it plugged it into the diagnostic machine, its a £70 charge.

 

I've sat in mechanics' receptions and heard it on the phone. 

[Parky]

God damn it yes, I remember that! It was bloody Nessils wasn't it!

 

I mispronounce things all the time now, Mrs P (being a Kiwi) has had that influence. For example I say:

 

YOE-GURT instead of yoghurt

 

POLLA-BEER instead of Polar Bear

 

But that's language I suppose, with all the external influences English has it is inevitable that words and pronunciations will adapt and mould themselves to the surroundings. And that's before we get onto the influence of street culture. It's quite hilarious listening to Parky Jr - son of a half Canadian half Kiwi mother and half Irish half geordie father speaking like he has just arrived from a sojourn in downtown Mumbai with a bunch of Barbadians!

 

Sick, innit?

[Datsuncog]

In many ways it's like growing up with Nestle products. Always pronounced NESSIL when I was growing up, nowadays it is NEST-LAY. Being Swiss the second one is undoubtedly correct but it still feels kind of wrong!

 

My understanding was that while the Swiss company was always NEST-LAY after one of the founders, a marketing decision was made when entering the UK market (pre-WW1) that us Brits wouldn't understand the acute accent pronunciation, so the name was anglicised to NESSILS for marketing purposes.

 

It's only in recent years that we're now considered cosmopolitan enough to deal with vowel accents, so ads have reverted to the (proper, original) pronunciation. Probably aided by the accursed Australian rising inflection gaining traction on these shores...

 

Pronunciation

Nestlé is pronounced (French pronunciation: ​[nɛsle]; English: /ˈnɛsleɪ, ˈnɛsəl, ˈnɛsli/, formerly: /ˈnɛsəlz/).

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestl%C3%A9#Pronunciation

 

As an aside, for reasons best known to themselves, Primark marketed themselves on TV ads in Northern Ireland as PREE-MARK, whereas in the rest of the UK it was pitched as PRY-MARK.

 

I've actually witnessed discussions on the correct pronunciation of this cheerily cheap clothing retailer descend into a physical brawl.

 

As a point of fact, the very first Primark-branded store opened in Belfast in 1971, two years before a GB store opened - so I reckon PREE-MARK scores the point based on first use. The company's very first store, in Dublin, was named Penneys (and still is) but a trademark dispute with US retailer JC Penney precluded the name being used outside of the Republic of Ireland. So Primark was the trading name chosen for UK and European expansion.

 

This, more than anything else you may have heard, poses the greatest risk to continued unification between Northern Ireland and rest of the UK. Secretly, every NI resident (from all political persuasions) gazes across the Irish Sea and thinks "how can we ever trust you when you can't even say Primark correctly?"

[Tadhg Tiogar]

God damn it yes, I remember that! It was bloody Nessils wasn't it!

See? I wasn't imagining things. I've got loads of useless information from that era that has fallen down the back of my mental sofa. I even remember the CX advert with Grace Jones in it; didn't understand it then, still don't fully understand it now. The car was grand, though.

 

I mispronounce things all the time now, Mrs P (being a Kiwi) has had that influence. For example I say:

 

YOE-GURT instead of yoghurt

 

POLLA-BEER instead of Polar Bear....

William Shatner also pronounced yoghurt the same way. The New Zealand accent is, well.....let's say that an Aussie friend of mine finds the sound of it funny.

[Tetleysmooth]

Double deckers are not just trailers, you know.

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Also fun* in winds.

 

I don't drive a bus, just referring to what I drive most nights.

I'm sure a double deck bus can be a bit wobbly in the wind as well.

[Tamworthbay]

See? I wasn't imagining things. I've got loads of useless information from that era that has fallen down the back of my mental sofa. I even remember the CX advert with Grace Jones in it; didn't understand it then, still don't fully understand it now. The car was grand, though.William Shatner also pronounced yoghurt the same way. The New Zealand accent is, well.....let's say that an Aussie friend of mine finds the sound of it funny.

An Australian finds someone else’s accent funny? Shit, the Oxford English Dictionary needs to rewrite its entry for Ironic.

[Parky]

Aussies find Kiwi accents hilarious, but trust me (some) Kiwis find Aussies annoying too.

 

I sometimes find the Kiwi accent funny and I am used to it! I find particularly watching Kiwi films with the family, me and Mrs P will crack up at a particular joke and our kids can't understand the words and wonder what's funny

 

I spent 2 years living over there and came back with a proper Kiwi accent. I picked up the local lingo because it made my job easier (customers couldn't understand Estuary English) but it took a few months to throw it off and as mentioned some pronunciations just live on.

 

I am like you in that I remember loads of useless shite that will always stand me in good stead in a pub quiz but won't help much in University Challenge. Unless Paxman needs to know the lyrics to the Insignia After shave ad or which creature decided on the name "Um Bongo"

[Captain Furious]

Sorry I forgot everything on here gets taken stone cold literally...jezuz