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wuvvum Rank: Matra Rancho towing a Tagora

wuvvum

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5 minutes ago, RoverFolkUs said:

Leather has its place, you make a good point about it being a perceived luxury though. 

I find it quite uncomfortable, too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer unless they're heated/cooled. And it can be quite slippery and unsupportive

If (well, when) I have a 75 then I think leather would be a bonus as I don't really like the cloth seats they have

I think the cloth is quite cheap in the 75s (the newer ones at least) as I frequently see the seat upholstery has become baggy on them as it separates from the foam underneath. My 45 had the same issue with the "Alcantara" seat pad.

I like the ZT half leather seats too, I hadn't thought of them 

In fact I'd probably like a ZT over a 75, not sure why exactly as they're virtually the same but the ZT feels like it's not trying as hard to be a Jag as the 75, which they never really were upto!

Mine is a Connie SE and has heated leather seats in the front.  They're OK but the heaters aren't the most powerful and take a few minutes to get going.  The seat heaters in the (cloth-upholstered) 45 I had were much more potent.

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RoverFolkUs Rank: Talbot Matra Rancho

RoverFolkUs

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8 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Mine is a Connie SE and has heated leather seats in the front.  They're OK but the heaters aren't the most powerful and take a few minutes to get going.  The seat heaters in the (cloth-upholstered) 45 I had were much more potent.

That's interesting to hear about the leather seats in the 75

Interesting you say that as my 45 had heated cloth seats as well and I found them very strong too, although none of my other cars have had heated seats so it's hard for me to compare. They were nice in winter for those few mins before the blowers took effect

Unfortunately it had no summer comfort as the AC was inop and needed more than a "regas m8"!

It was a MK2, Club trim level which I am led to believe is halfway along the spectrum, lacking leather and climate control but had almost everything else. 

Yoss Rank: Lancia Gamma

Yoss

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1 minute ago, RoverFolkUs said:

Leather has its place, you make a good point about it being a perceived luxury though. 

I find it quite uncomfortable, too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer unless they're heated/cooled. And it can be quite slippery and unsupportive

I think the cloth is quite cheap in the 75s (the newer ones at least) as I frequently see the seat upholstery has become baggy on them as it separates from the foam underneath. My 45 had the same issue with the "Alcantara" seat pad.

I like the ZT half leather seats too, I hadn't thought of them 

In fact I'd probably like a ZT over a 75, not sure why exactly as they're virtually the same but the ZT feels like it's not trying as hard to be a Jag as the 75, which they never really were upto!

I admit there are different standards of leather just as there are cloth but I don't think any of them can beat a good cloth for comfort or appearance. 

All these examples were available with leather, probably at extra cost. 

Mercedes W123. 

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Volvo 240. I think the 740 had similar. 

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Vauxhall were the Kings of 80s velour. 

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But the overall winner is the Fiat 130 coupe. 

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Tell me you'd rather have leather over these and I won't believe you. 

RoverFolkUs Rank: Talbot Matra Rancho

RoverFolkUs

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2 minutes ago, Yoss said:

I admit there are different standards of leather just as there are cloth but I don't think any of them can beat a good cloth for comfort or appearance. 

All these examples were available with leather, probably at extra cost. 

Mercedes W123. 

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Volvo 240. I think the 740 had similar. 

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Vauxhall were the Kings of 80s velour. 

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But the overall winner is the Fiat 130 coupe. 

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Tell me you'd rather have leather over these and I won't believe you. 

You're not wrong! 

Personally, I would prefer quality cloth over leather, (like velour or Alcantara) but if it had cheap cloth thats prone to either stains or going baggy then I'd rather leather, even if it was cheap 👍

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grogee

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Weighing in on the leather 'mass debate' (see what I did there): I like it but probably only because the brochures told me to when I was little. I do find some cloths a bit static-y. Ford leather has traditionally been shit, it was paper thin on my 1990 Scorpio. It's pretty fragile on my Puma too (Recaros).

The Saab has nice, thick leather, no complaints from me and the heaters are effective. Even the back seat passengers get a bumwarmer.

Interestingly JLR did identify a niche in 'organic' alternatives to leather, figuring that there are probably vegetarians who would object to cow skin. I can't remember what they called the alternative, or even what it looked like. Does anyone know?

Yoss Rank: Lancia Gamma

Yoss

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13 minutes ago, 11001010 said:

https://www.leboncoin.fr/caravaning/2126168092.htm

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That looks wrong. The cab is painted up like some sort of rally support vehicle and is completely mis matched with the back as if the caravan bit was pinched off something else. If it was mine I would be painting the back in some sort of Leyland Special Tuning livery to match the cab. 

vaughant Rank: Lancia Gamma

vaughant

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Da fuck.... 

Somehow have a vague recollection of this being modded in a car magazine? 

Fallen on hard times.

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RoverFolkUs Rank: Talbot Matra Rancho

RoverFolkUs

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4 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

can someone please do a buy on this? before I find myself doing something very stupid with £550 LOL

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125161641186

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BS translator:

"The gearbox is working well for its age" 

Eh, why mention the gearbox in particular?

I think it should say:

"the gearbox is irreparably fucked but it's passed its MOT and old high mileage car m9 so everything is fine" 

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RichardK Rank: Lancia Gamma

RichardK

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11 hours ago, wuvvum said:

That's one way of making an estate version on the cheap!  @RichardK if you ever find yours is short of boot space...

There are loads of those online - very neat solution!

Also now I know which way around the battery goes and an 063 is wrong, I thought so, terminals are the wrong way around!

LPG conversion is interesting.

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