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[Guest Hooli]

I wonder if he drew a correlation between the two?

 

Aye he knew, he was the one that told me why he scrapped them. But said it was worth it to look cool*

 

 

 

 

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[theorganist]

Aye he knew, he was the one that told me why he scrapped them. But said it was worth it to look cool*

 

 

 

 

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I am saying nothing!

[Exiled_Tat_Gatherer]

Marketing...... same as the barn finds and other shitty tags..... it'll be looked at - with someone, not necessarily yoof, searching on slammed. He/She just saw a cool looking ride at a show... wants one. Now that will also show up in their listing. What's the problem?

 

If old young giffer JoyBoy doesn't think it's worth saving, not a show queen in the making or whatever - let Rich and his 'crew' learn something about cars, save a rotten shitter (or give up and push on a cheap project we all love) and actually find out they ride better a certain way... They'll be the ones saving the chod of tomorrow won't they? Or will it be company car only driving Rodney and his Business suited pals (refer back to not worth the investment argument).

 

In all honesty - has every car you've driven had suspension you actually liked? I gurantee there are those of us here who prefer stiffer or softer suspension on vehicles..... it's a generic piece of metal - it cannot be 'right' for everyone.... and not even the best they could do - budgets etc... always come into play too.. 

 

 

Chill pill time folks..... It's been the same since the dawn of the wheel.

[dave j]

I was at a classic car show recently and was chatting to a youth with a slammed ratty Triumph Herald. It was so low it must have drove horrible but he had done so much work himself to it it was refreshing to see a young lad enjoying his classic. That said I recently sold a mk3 Golf to a young lad who wanted a car older Than him(!) And he has ruined it!

[andy18s]

Aye he knew, he was the one that told me why he scrapped them. But said it was worth it to look cool

I used to know a lad who was so keen on the low look he would remove the rear shocks on his mk1/2 Escort and weld in scaffold tube to lock the axle in place

Front end just had the springs hacked to allow some steering.....

[Guest Hooli]

 

 

 

In all honesty - has every car you've driven had suspension you actually liked? I gurantee there are those of us here who prefer stiffer or softer suspension on vehicles..... it's a generic piece of metal - it cannot be 'right' for everyone.... and not even the best they could do - budgets etc... always come into play too.. 

 

 

 

 

True. I've lowered cars in the past, but only to improve the handling/ride (my mk2 Sierra wallowed like a boat as standard, it was much nicer with 35mm progressive drop springs) . I've never seen the point of modifying a car to be worse at being a car, it's like buying a house & taking the windows out because it looks cool*

[Pillock]

In a similar vein, and going back to the complaint made by the Joloke in the original post, I have been looking for a horse trailer, preferably a shite old Rice horse trailer, to use as, surprisingly, a horse trailer. Why then, do most of the ones I see on fleabay are listed as being for conversion* to ‘catering trailers’ with silly starting prices to match... ??

 

Squirrel2

Don't get me fucking started.

 

I went to a food festival at the weekend. It was a massive one, granted and took over most of the centre of Lichfield.

 

But doing one lap of the stalls I reckon I saw approx 1.25 million horseboxes each of which was painted some retro colour, with wanky script writing and hawking some overpriced fad food or drink out of the side.

 

Prosecco from a horsebox.

Churros from a horsebox.

Crepes from a horsebox.

Gluten free sourdough fucking shitty artisan sandwiches. From a horsebox.

 

At one point I got moaned at for walking on one of the ramps, they'd flopped it down and it was really busy so I stepped on the ramp to go around someone and got a "hey get off there". Hang on, they were built for horses to walk on! Oh wait it's because you've covered yours in artificial fucking grass.

[mercrocker]

Yeah, that fucking peeves me too.  Anything bought for its original purpose now has to be paid for with twat tax because of this crowd.   

 

Additional annoyance factor cos Mrs R. didn't pursue a lucrative home business doing her cakes and cookies on a short-order last-minute basis for local caterers as it took more than a bit of Jif to satisfy the health police.   Rightly so, I am not saying otherwise but how come it's ok to flog them out of something where a horse has shat?   

[robinmasters]

If someone makes a few extra quid because they've reeled in the 'cool kids' by adding a few words to their listing title, best of luck to them.

 

If someone's stupid enough to deflate the hydrolastic system and drive around on the bump stops, that's a whole different kettle of fish, but those people will always find some way of removing themselves from the gene pool, and there's not much the rest of us can do about it. There's also not much we can do to prevent the same people from buying stuff (be it cars, houses, watches, whatever), that doesn't sit their purpose, then 'modifying' it to render it worthless, unsafe, or both.

[Pillock]

Not convinced a Morris 1100 is going to kill nuns and kittens if it's on the bump stops, worst case scenario the car cracks in weird places and it gets crushed.

 

You've also gotta think... Would you rather some yoof got his first taste of classic cars and drove this every day slammed, or some old boy buys it, sticks it in his shed and does nothing with it until the day he carks it and his family call the scrapman?

[louiepj]

Reminds me that a mate experimented with different fluids in his metro suspension in our yoof.....

I think he settled on either LHM or that early vw pas oil in it for lower yet rock hard suspension that lasted for the few months he thrashed it for.

Though I'm sure the best way to have these sit lower is to machine the knuckles/cups to lower the hydrolastic suspension mounting points, so not a five minute job.

[Uncle Jimmy]

ALL adverts fuck me off.

[lisbon_road]

They upset me too - a bit.  And yes, I know all that stuff about 'better that kids involved in classic cars', and I know it is right. 

 

But I know that in a few years, all this stuff will be gone.  My children just aren't interested, and the quite large numbers of cars, buses and all that stuff.  It is all going to go.

 

That's just how it is.  We have to enjoy it in our own way now and try and chill, 'cos there's nothing we can do about any of it.

 

Mind, 32K miles in one of those, it is probably rotten.  And when they went....wow........

[Timewaster]

I remember seeing a matt black maxi at a show once that looked like it had been lowered,asked him and he just said all the gas had escaped

# Bob The Bodger....

 

Have you slammed it?

 

# Bob the Bodger....

 

No. It's Fucked!

[Timewaster]

Meh.

 

I'm quietly confident every 'cozzeh' driver would like to tell me (correctly) that it's MY car that looks shit.

 

Cosworth driver here.

 

Your Sierra looks sh......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....exshual!

[richardmorris]

It’s their car if they buy it, and can do what they like. I wouldn’t but hey ho, it’s a free country.

The x1/9 club is full of modified cars, and I am intent on keeping mine original ( just because there are so few left). On the other hand the 2cv is a mish mash of added shinyness, electronic ignition, larger tyres, etc ( all declared to the insurer).

My merc is actually pretty original too, bar the DAB radio, which may or may not be favourable depending on the future sale.

 

To be honest I don’t care - I’m likely to keep all of them until they fall apart.

[BorniteIdentity]

Cosworth driver here.

 

Your Sierra looks sh......

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

....exshual!

You are bang wrong.

 

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[SiC]

That Morris looks fucked. Bad photos but check out that rot around the arches. Knowing what I know about ado16s now, if that's gone, the rest is a whole lot worse. You can drive these on bump stops but it would be incredibly and unusably low. When I deflated mine, I couldn't get a jack in that side.

[SiC]

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If that was an ADO16, that fluid would be the hydrolastic fluid and not intensionally slammed.

[Pillock]

 

 

But I know that in a few years, all this stuff will be gone. My children just aren't interested, and the quite large numbers of cars, buses and all that stuff. It is all going to go.

 

Nail, head.

 

Kids these days don't fawn over stuff they've never seen before. We want to save 70s cars, or 60s, or 80s because we grew up seeing them and we've got a soft spot. If I was to show my lad that 1100 he'd not give a hoot, but show him a Focus RS or Skyline or something else from his era and he'd get much more excited.

 

At some point, you'll have more luck seeing a Ford Escort in a museum than on the road because all the people who remember them new will be dead so who wants to save them if not a mad old curator?

 

In a similar way, clearing out my mum's house... Loads of figurines, Wedgewood etc. "oooh save all that, it'll be worth a fortune in years to come". Like hell will it, it's right at the top of the curve now. Target market is declining year on year, and their kids are all clearing their houses out too. Soon there'll be more Wedgewood and Morris 1100s than people who want them.

[bezzabsa]

MOT exempt????? thought that was 1959 or older, or have I missed the plot??

[lisbon_road]

Anything 40 years old is MOT exempt now, unless modified.  All changed a bit now.  So (s)he's right about that - though they can be still submitted for an MOT and the jumble in the description about that one being tested but having a list of faults, well, you just go and see that with your eyes right open. 

[beko1987]

320_touring found out how good a lowered car is at driving through a rocky mud bath at shitefest_15

[mat_the_cat]

it's like buying a house & taking the windows out because it looks cool*

 

Oops.

 

[Guest Hooli]

Useless* fact I found out for various reasons where I used to live. As you've not joined that brickwork into the wall it still counts as a window as far as 'right to light' rules go.

[pandamonium]

I've both lowered and left cars standard. I see the point of both.

What I don't see the point of is getting annoyed at others for their choices.
Yes, slamming a car is often a silly idea, God knows I've cursed myself afterwards enough, but it's the owner's choice and their problem to deal with or try to sell on...

Live and let live I always say.

[somewhatfoolish]

Everybody with half a brain knows that a car that had its suspension removed is going to be destroyed in no time at all.

The shocks from the undulations of the road have to go somewhere and if there is no suspension, they go directly into the structure, which isn't designed to deal with them.

Hence reverting to standard doesn't fix anything. The car is fucked.

I don't know what the legal aspect in the UK is, but in most EU countries major modifications to the suspension system invalidate the vehicle type approval, unless the modifications were made with type approved components. In the UK they at the very least invalidate the historic status of a car registered as historic.

I would not want to get hit by a car with owner modified suspension, since his heap might be illegal to operate on HM's highway and the insurance might be void.

Apart from that, the shocks transmitted to the driver and passengers of a suspensionless car have severe implications on their health.

I'm not inconsiderably miffed that I then have to pay for their premature pensions.

I have been told by several serial Dolomite lickers that fitting stiff polybushes on the front suspension can hammer the body so badly that the wings distort and ruin the shutline of the bonnet, although being a BL product the shutline fidelity probably wasn't much cop to begin with.

[Noel Tidybeard]

i wonder if adding a pint of 20w50 would miraculously* restore reverse gear?