invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[calebaaront]

[Remspoor]

Now more images.

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from this website. https://ryesown.co.uk/parking-in-rye/

I do not remember this TV programme.

https://braybrookproductions.com/foxtrot-one-one/

The above images are not embedded on this forum.

Somewhere in this site https://pindelski.org/Photography/

But only a search engine can find it.

[calebaaront]

1 minute ago, Remspoor said:

Now more images.

Crazy what driving at walking speed can do

[RayMK]

There's nothing wrong  with offering advice gained from one's knowledge and real life experiences.  Lbf is not ignoring it, he is just quite rightly taking it as advice and has a different point of view.  True, it's a minority view but I'd defend his right to stick with it, probably something which is more likely, given the almost bullying  'tone'  of some of the advice.  I am sure that no one wants Dez to get hurt by the path he currently favours and I sincerely hope that there is not a gang of 'told you so' merchants waiting to extract vengeance following every hiccup which will occur as Dez's experience is expanded.  

I have owned and used a class 2  Invacare for over 20 years and driven thousands of miles in flimsy old cars with three and four wheels.  A model 70 is (to me) an interesting vehicle.  I also like some older Vauxhalls and would never advise someone not to ride a motorcycle or pushbike despite the risks.  A Micra though... it would bore me to death.   

Let's lighten up a bit for lightbulb fun.  That's my advice.  If you don't follow this I'll sulk, refuse to follow your threads, get cross, withdraw any offers I've made then flounce with flags waving 🤣👨‍🦼.

[LightBulbFun]

13 minutes ago, RayMK said:

I sincerely hope that there is not a gang of 'told you so' merchants waiting to extract vengeance following every hiccup which will occur as Dez's experience is expanded.  

unfortunately this has already proven to be the case when I briefly had REV at home during late 2021, and she unbeknownst to me came back with a few issues

https://autoshite.com/topic/32723-lightbulbfuns-invacar-general-ramble-thread-index-on-page-1-survivors-lists-on-pages-24134-adgecutlers-invacar-mk12-restoration-from-page-186-onwards-still-harping-on/page/229/

so although I would expect better from the forum, I am fully expecting them to commence once more, when I get REV back and when I have to deal with any issues crop up

 

I have noticed that there are certain band of people who only show up in this thread when something goes wrong or the going gets difficult for me, that dont otherwise contribute anything to this thread (and then often are the same people who complain its 400 pages long!)

[Snake Charmer]

42 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

 

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Looking at the tyre marks on the road, l think that was pushed into the post by a lorry.

[Yoss]

Just now, Snake Charmer said:

Looking at the tyre marks on the road, l think that was pushed into the post by a lorry.

Yes, the only way it drove there itself was if the driver had managed to get it completely sideways. 

[Snake Charmer]

2 minutes ago, Yoss said:

Yes, the only way it drove there itself was if the driver had managed to get it completely sideways. 

I had not considered that! 🤣 Nicely spotted. 👍

[High Jetter]

50 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

 

It doesn't look like he's enjoying the parade! Chelmsford reg?

[ETCHY]

Tbh there's more chance of Cindy Crawford giving me a blow job than there is of LBF not doing the Invacar thing & taking advice & getting a 4 wheeled " sensible" motor.

So imo all those who've offered advice should just leave it at that & appreciate that it's his life. If it's a disaster so be it you've said your piece but it is his life to do with as he pleases.

Just be careful LBF & best of luck. Oh & BTW write that fucking book on Invacar's,  I'd buy a copy !

[LightBulbFun]

50 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

https://braybrookproductions.com/foxtrot-one-one/

The above images are not embedded on this forum.

 

oooh thanks for that one! I had been wondering about that one for a few years now

https://autoshite.com/topic/32723-lightbulbfuns-invacar-general-ramble-thread-index-on-page-1-survivors-lists-on-pages-24134-adgecutlers-invacar-mk12-restoration-from-page-186-onwards-still-harping-on/page/193/#comment-2272116

looks like I was on the money with it being NPB840D in disguise  

53 minutes ago, Remspoor said:

Somewhere in this site https://pindelski.org/Photography/

But only a search engine can find it.

interesting thing to note about this one and other Invacar Model 70's of the early Retroreflective plate period is how they use Hills number plates rather then the usual Tippers plates Invacar normally used, I wonder why that is? perhaps Tippers could not initially supply all the number plates they required or such?

[LightBulbFun]

im enjoying and I appreciate all the sleuthing going on to track down the location of the gaggle of Model 70's in east London, I was thinking its a prime location to visit in REV   

[red5]

13 minutes ago, Snake Charmer said:

Looking at the tyre marks on the road, l think that was pushed into the post by a lorry.

Meh, how narrow a track had this lorry got then? Wheelbarrow?

[Mr Pastry]

4 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

im enjoying and I appreciate all the sleuthing going on to track down the location of the gaggle of Model 70's in east London, I was thinking its a prime location to visit in REV   

Knowing the location so closely, an old edition of Kelly's Directory would pin it down and give you the name of the firm. 

[lesapandre]

2 hours ago, Remspoor said:

Now more images.

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from this website. https://ryesown.co.uk/parking-in-rye/

I do not remember this TV programme.

https://braybrookproductions.com/foxtrot-one-one/

The above images are not embedded on this forum.

Somewhere in this site https://pindelski.org/Photography/

But only a search engine can find it.

Lovely Rye - home to Henry James and E F Benson's 'Mapp and Lucia' as the fictional town 'Tilling':

Somewhere down ya Wormwood Scrubs - London.

[Yoss]

2 hours ago, BorniteIdentity said:

 

How many of these apply to you?

OBVIOUSLY it goes without saying: nobody on a forum dedicated to running and enjoying shit old cars is saying "don't run a shit old car".  But I'm guessing your first car wasn't 50 years old, you're not disabled, you don't live in a high rise and everything else.

Encouragement is one thing.  There is - however - a line where it crosses into incitement to do something dangerous.  I know what side of the line I'd rather be on when the history books are written.

 

 

I mean your right, these things were only 25 years old at the time but a 25 year old car then was completely different to now. It is widely regarded on this forum that late 90s is peak car and everything since is just tinkering at the edges but this stuff was all 1960s technology with almost no rust prevention. 

My first car was a £65 Triumph 1500 TC, the RWD one. I knew nothing about cars, I literally bought it because I liked all the wood inside. Had it two weeks and there was a big bang and a wobble going round a roundabout. One of the axle mounts had snapped due to rust. I carried on driving it until the MOT ran out a couple of weeks later. The next one, a 1300 FWD wasn't much better but I slowly learnt how to fix them and more importantly how to spot a good one in the first place. 

And of course I bought a Routemaster two years before I could even drive a car. 

I think the point I'm slowly getting to is that you are all pointing out the reasons why it's a bad idea and you're right there are many reasons but I'm looking back at my youth and thinking would I have done that? Of course I would.

If you can't tell me you didn't do some irrational, stupid and probably dangerous things in your youth you must have had very dull life. 

[reb]

When I was Dez's age me and a friend went halfs on a very clean £500 1.4 16v mk2 Clio, took the interior out, drilled holes in the airbox, then drove it around the local countryside at mach 3.

We lived.

Somehow.

[Christine]

I drove my 125cc  go kart on the road ,  and had a head on crash  around a blind bend .. with a  Copper on a Police motorcycle ! I wasn't hurt  at all but he fell off and  ripped the knees and elbows out of his uniform... and he wasn't at all pleased 

 

 

[loserone]

29 minutes ago, reb said:

Somehow

Five star Euro NCAP rating m8

[reb]

4 minutes ago, loserone said:

Five star Euro NCAP rating m8

Never crashed it. We are obviously driving gods.

It did go a little bit on fire once though.

[red5]

I'm all for it.  Crack on Dez, it'll be disastrous and brilliant, probably at the same time. 

 

However, there is no way that they were ever safe in any meaningful way, especially 70's onwards. Construction and use regs are not safety/crash regs. 

 

Drive it, but do not try and pretend it's anything other then a air-cooled flat twin tricycle with a weather proof ish shell that is likely to maim you with shrapnel / shards when it gets into a  Orange-bagged RTC. 

💪

[Christine]

They'll deny it , but a lot of spectators at a motor race meet ,only go hoping to see someone crash  and die ..snapping away with their i phone ... 

Funnily enough some of the best motor  racing i've ever  watcĥed is 750 motor club  stuff with Reliant  850 engines..  3 or 4 different  leaders  every lap

[500tops]

Go for it Dez! Live your dream while you can, as long as you can... 👍

 

[BorniteIdentity]

3 hours ago, Yoss said:

If you can't tell me you didn't do some irrational, stupid and probably dangerous things in your youth you must have had very dull life. 

I still am now, dude.  I will never ever grow up, never mind grow old.  But it's one of those 'check your privilege' things isn't it? At 24, I owned a house - a capable body - a garage.  I had simple access to a friendly mechanic and my daily car was a Toyota. I had a MK2 Capri for shits and giggles (30 years old at the time) and would never have relied on it for anything other than fun in country lanes.

Genuinely, my concern is honest.  It's not about stopping fun, just a semblance of realism.

[treehugger]

55 minutes ago, Christine said:

They'll deny it , but a lot of spectators at a motor race meet ,only go hoping to see someone crash  and die ..snapping away with their i phone ... 

Funnily enough some of the best motor  racing i've ever  watcĥed is 750 motor club  stuff with Reliant  850 engines..  3 or 4 different  leaders  every lap

Doubt it. I saw it happen. Took hours to get out of the venue, everybody was very subdued. Grim. 

[reb]

1 minute ago, treehugger said:

Doubt it. I saw it happen. Took hours to get out of the venue, everybody was very subdued. Grim. 

I remember about 20 years ago being at Skegness raceway and one of the drivers was badly injured enough to need the air ambulance. Even as a small child I could tell the atmosphere had changed considerably.

[reb]

Do racetracks still have cigarette style warnings that say "MOTORSPORT IS DANGEROUS" posted around the pits?

[red5]

Yep.

[warren t claim]

19 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

I still am now, dude.  I will never ever grow up, never mind grow old.  But it's one of those 'check your privilege' things isn't it? At 24, I owned a house - a capable body - a garage.  I had simple access to a friendly mechanic and my daily car was a Toyota. I had a MK2 Capri for shits and giggles (30 years old at the time) and would never have relied on it for anything other than fun in country lanes.

Genuinely, my concern is genuine.  It's not about stopping fun, just a semblance of realism.

A 24 year old W.T.C? 1994 was a shit year for me. I'd had my heart broken for the first and last time. I got a six month ban from driving for getting too many points meaning that I had to change my job. I still owned my own house outright though. 

[Yoss]

53 minutes ago, BorniteIdentity said:

I still am now, dude.  I will never ever grow up, never mind grow old.  But it's one of those 'check your privilege' things isn't it? At 24, I owned a house - a capable body - a garage.  I had simple access to a friendly mechanic and my daily car was a Toyota. I had a MK2 Capri for shits and giggles (30 years old at the time) and would never have relied on it for anything other than fun in country lanes.

Genuinely, my concern is genuine.  It's not about stopping fun, just a semblance of realism.

Unlike you I've never had a sensible daily driver. My mum often said why don't you get a sensible car in the early days when I still lived at home. It hasn't happened yet. 

I don't doubt your concern is genuine and Dez has acknowledged it won't be easy but he has to try. We shall have to agree to disagree and I shall leave it there because we're just going round in circles again.