invacar LightBulbFun's Invacar & general ramble thread, index on page 1, survivors lists on Pages 24/134 & AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12 Restoration from Page 186 onwards, still harping on...

[LightBulbFun]

  On 05/01/2022 at 01:35, warren t claim said:

I'm pretty sure they had a very strict low annual mileage policy?

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no, no such milage policy of the sort, just many did not do many miles (although who knows how many went round the clock!)

@AdgeCutler's Invacar Mk12E did about 41000 miles before coming off the road at 9 years old,  so thats about 4.5K a year

and we even have the service dockets to backup the speedo reading  https://autoshite.com/topic/32723-lightbulbfuns-invacar-general-ramble-thread-index-on-page-1-survivors-lists-on-pages-24134-adgecutlers-invacar-mk12-restoration-from-page-186-onwards-chips-got/page/191/?tab=comments#comment-2262750

 

and I know of at least 1 Model 70 with 94K on the clock!

[LightBulbFun]

  On 22/12/2021 at 19:07, Yoss said:

We demand a night shot outside the chippy! 

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hopefully this short video of me that night on the way to the chippy is an acceptable substitute?  

(I quite like the thumbnail youtube has picked would make for a good photograph in its own right  ) 

[bobdisk]

  On 03/01/2022 at 18:38, DodgyBastard said:

For the oil change I'd recommend parking over a drain to catch all of the oil but be careful not to drop the sump plug in there.

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NOT OVER A DRAIN Something might go wrong and you dont want to dump oil in a public drain. Ther are things about that will catch any spillages. 

[SiC]

  On 05/01/2022 at 07:00, bobdisk said:

NOT OVER A DRAIN Something might go wrong and you dont want to dump oil in a public drain. Ther are things about that will catch any spillages. 

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But the drain would catch any spills for you!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(DodgyBastard was joking btw 🤣🤦)

[dollywobbler]

I think most Invacars were collected for service, with specialists all over the country (Elmsleigh Invacar being one - that's a fair trek from Dez's though - I know because I've done that drive). Chatted to a chap at the NEC and he used to work at one of those specialists. I was curious about the fact they were usually towed to the service centres. He said they just cut the belts off so they'd tow more easily. Just fit a new one during the service, job done. After all, government was footing the bill...

[Angrydicky]

You can’t really get anywhere better to repair it than the factory that made it (in theory) and Thundersley isn’t an expensive trailer ride away.

[Missy Charm]

  On 05/01/2022 at 07:00, bobdisk said:

NOT OVER A DRAIN Something might go wrong and you dont want to dump oil in a public drain. Ther are things about that will catch any spillages. 

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@bobdisk is right.  Pouring oil down London drains is a terrible idea.  The crocodiles that live in the sewers use any oil that ends up down there as belly lubricant, which allows them to slide for distances of several miles with a decent run up.  High speed crocodile transfer between boroughs is a real menace; there have even been reports of gangs of crocodiles carrying out smash and grab raids then sliding off on their oily bellies.  It was in the Metro, it has to be true! 

[bobdisk]

  On 05/01/2022 at 12:00, Missy Charm said:

@bobdisk is right.  Pouring oil down London drains is a terrible idea.  The crocodiles that live in the sewers use any oil that ends up down there as belly lubricant, which allows them to slide for distances of several miles with a decent run up.  High speed crocodile transfer between boroughs is a real menace; there have even been reports of gangs of crocodiles carrying out smash and grab raids then sliding off on their oily bellies.  It was in the Metro, it has to be true! 

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And Fatburgers!🤮

[chaseracer]

  On 05/01/2022 at 12:05, bobdisk said:

And Fatburgers!🤮

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They're the only things that stop the amphibian OC gangs!

[AdgeCutler]

The drawings for the 12e door components were dropped off this morning and hopefully I should have a couple of sets of metalwork to collect in the upcoming days ready to start making a door. Of late my bad guts have  been playing up but the upside of this is early mornings in which to  make some Brian progress before work, the heater blower has been targeted and yesterday was stripped down to find everything inside being in fantastic condition.  The motors bearing felts were pretty dry so were washed out and re lubed. Today saw the commutator cleaned up (brushes are like new) then it was re-painted and re-assembled with only the SMITHS sticker to glue back on,  I tested it and it runs quietly and smoothly, another job ticked off.

[AdgeCutler]

Through the course of this recommissioning  apart from the more complex components I've made drawings for and had made professionally I've also been making numerous basic brackets and fixtures to replace old rotten parts. Here are a couple I've made during tea and dinner breaks while at work, all that remains to be done with these is to stamp the original part numbers back onto them (once I find my letter punch set!):

 

[Out Run]

  On 05/01/2022 at 18:04, AdgeCutler said:

The drawings for the 12e door components were dropped off this morning and hopefully I should have a couple of sets of metalwork to collect in the upcoming days ready to start making a door. Of late my bad guts have  been playing up but the upside of this is early mornings in which to  make some Brian progress before work, the heater blower has been targeted and yesterday was stripped down to find everything inside being in fantastic condition.  The motors bearing felts were pretty dry so were washed out and re lubed. Today saw the commutator cleaned up (brushes are like new) then it was re-painted and re-assembled with only the SMITHS sticker to glue back on,  I tested it and it runs quietly and smoothly, another job ticked off.

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Turbo kit. 😎 

For the 1100cc bike engine?

[warren t claim]

Don't drain oil into a drain, think of the things that hide in drains like mucus turtles and John Noakes during his dementia years. 

[Out Run]

TTT 🙂

[warren t claim]

  On 06/01/2022 at 23:41, Out Run said:

TTT 🙂

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Close, I'm a TIT.

[LightBulbFun]

not much has been going on the REV front, I did get this trolly jack https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EC83X1Y

after some talking with @reb on Le Autoshite Zoom, I decided that to get that Trolly jack which while lighter then most at 9Kg (I think a lot are like 15-30Kg!) is still quite heavy for me, but I figured would be worth a try, as although it will be a lot more weight for me to lug up and down the stairs, it might be worth it in the fact that much less effort will be required to jack up the car, especially if Im doing a Job that requires me to raise and lower the car multiple times!

just waiting for a chance to give it a test! I had my booster Jab on the 5th and that kicked my arse for a couple days, and then the weather has not been very agreeable!

 

otherwise I did find this interesting picture! I sadly cant find anything on it, but its interesting because it looks like it was taken sometime this side of the year 2000!

its also worth noting, that the registration plate looks to start with JHJ54, so its clearly an Invacar Model 70 part of the JHJ514N-JHJ613N block

and I have to wonder is it JHJ548N? the significance of that is apart from REV, JHJ548N is the only other private Invacar Model 70 I know of that may still survive somewhere, but I have never been able to get many details on it and confirm what happened to it  stuart only knows of a 1990's photograph of it in a book somewhere (and had no idea it was a private car until I pulled up its chassis number! it was just used in the book, about AC cars, as an example of an "AC Invacar")

however it was last taxed in 2008 and had a keeper change in 2009, so id like to think its still out there somewhere, but I cant find any details on it, but I do wonder given the modern look of the photo above, is it of JHJ548N from the mid to late 2000's?

but that aside, heres something to test if you have been paying attention to this thread and know your Model 70's! but there is something wrong about the Model 70 in question in the picture! something that does not add up, can anyone spot whats up?  

 

[Out Run]

There are many things wrong with the vehicle in that picture.

Re the jack, if it's too heavy for you, do as suggested and leave it in the car. It's eating no meat, when it isn't in use.

[Weird Car]

  On 10/01/2022 at 12:16, LightBulbFun said:

not much has been going on the REV front, I did get this trolly jack https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00EC83X1Y

after some talking with @reb on Le Autoshite Zoom, I decided that to get that Trolly jack which while lighter then most at 9Kg (I think a lot are like 15-30Kg!) is still quite heavy for me, but I figured would be worth a try, as although it will be a lot more weight for me to lug up and down the stairs, it might be worth it in the fact that much less effort will be required to jack up the car, especially if Im doing a Job that requires me to raise and lower the car multiple times!

just waiting for a chance to give it a test! I had my booster Jab on the 5th and that kicked my arse for a couple days, and then the weather has not been very agreeable!

 

otherwise I did find this interesting picture! I sadly cant find anything on it, but its interesting because it looks like it was taken sometime this side of the year 2000!

its also worth noting, that the registration plate looks to start with JHJ54, so its clearly an Invacar Model 70 part of the JHJ514N-JHJ613N block

and I have to wonder is it JHJ548N? the significance of that is apart from REV, JHJ548N is the only other private Invacar Model 70 I know of that may still survive somewhere, but I have never been able to get many details on it and confirm what happened to it  stuart only knows of a 1990's photograph of it in a book somewhere (and had no idea it was a private car until I pulled up its chassis number! it was just used in the book, about AC cars, as an example of an "AC Invacar")

however it was last taxed in 2008 and had a keeper change in 2009, so id like to think its still out there somewhere, but I cant find any details on it, but I do wonder given the modern look of the photo above, is it of JHJ548N from the mid to late 2000's?

but that aside, heres something to test if you have been paying attention to this thread and know your Model 70's! but there is something wrong about the Model 70 in question in the picture! something that does not add up, can anyone spot whats up?  

 

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Looks like 549N to me

[LightBulbFun]

  On 10/01/2022 at 15:49, Harriytait said:

Looks like 549N to me

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dont think its that, as that Invacar did not make it to 1983 even!

[mitsisigma01]

Caught a glimpse of this on TV the other night .... absolute shit quality but just about visible on still

[DVee8]

Can't  get away from these bloody things, Apparently this belonged to a bloke that worked for my FiL.

[Out Run]

  On 10/01/2022 at 16:49, DVee8 said:

Can't  get away from these bloody things, Apparently this belonged to a bloke that worked for my FiL.

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Belonged! A private example etc.

[DVee8]

  On 10/01/2022 at 16:54, Out Run said:

Belonged! A private example etc.

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Nah prob not, an early Government backed PCP lease car, screw the poor motorist grant.

There is now a facebook conversation going on about them, bloody things 

[Out Run]

  On 10/01/2022 at 16:59, DVee8 said:

Nah prob not, an early Government backed PCP lease car, screw the poor motorist grant.

There is now a facebook conversation going on about them, bloody things 

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Thought as much. Choose your words carefully, mate! You can't own a DHSS one and all that. Lol.

[LightBulbFun]

  On 10/01/2022 at 16:22, mitsisigma01 said:

Caught a glimpse of this on TV the other night .... absolute shit quality but just about visible on still

 

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ah cool an AC Model 64  looks like 767RPJ so a close relative of this Model 64  

which is the oldest AC Invalid vehicle I can find on the DVLA so far

its also not far from this one either, which is interesting because its an AC Model 57, and 57's and 64's did not share blocks

it could be that there are just 2 blocks quite close to each other, but is rather curious

[Weird Car]

Just putting the word out that I'm after a model 70 'join the long line' I know, but just incase anyone's wanting to part with one I've got a budget of about £2000 may go up or down depending, I'm obviously not expecting a minter, just a project to keep me busy throughout the summer. I'm Located in Hampshire but will obviously travel about for the right car.

[Weird Car]

  On 10/01/2022 at 18:52, Harriytait said:

Just putting the word out that I'm after a model 70 'join the long line' I know, but just incase anyone's wanting to part with one I've got a budget of about £2000 may go up or down depending, I'm obviously not expecting a minter, just a project to keep me busy throughout the summer. I'm Located in Hampshire but will obviously travel about for the right car.

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Just as a heads up, this is the kind of condition I'm after.

[LightBulbFun]

speaking of Model 70's

the twist grip I ordered for REV on the 28th, finally arrived LOL, think it just got stuck in that grey period between Christmas and new years

im still not entirely sure if it will or will not fit REV's unusual throttle cable's skinny ferrule arrangement but ill give it a try!

from what I can work out, via google and a set of calliper, there are 3 sizes of throttle cable outer Ferrule size, 5.5Mm which I think is what REV's current bright green throttle cable is, then 6.35Mm aka 0.25 inch, which is what the new twist grip above measures out to be, and 8Mm which is what my other twist grip measures out to be, and REV's original knackered twist grip has 5.5Mm and 8Mm holes

also discovered the Model 70 throttle cable and twist grip I paid £40 is pretty much unusable, as the screws and nuts that hold the twist grip together have throughly rusted solid and the screw heads have turned to cheese otherwise, so I cant get the twist grip apart to fit it to the handle bars, let alone try and see if my new twist grip will fit the cable! I should not be surprised given where it came from, but its still irksome 

 

but speaking of REV, things are being discussed, and I was wondering, can anyone recommend any good options for having Her transported from where she is now in London to Worcester city? (and ideally back again once the work is done!)

I already have a couple people in mind, but I figured id best ask, incase anyone has any recommendations or does know of someone going that way with an empty trailer etc  

@bobdisk I understand you might have something on offer? not sure if London to Worcester is out of your catchment area so to speak!

 

 

[Mrs6C]

  On 12/01/2022 at 12:17, LightBulbFun said:

the screws and nuts that hold the twist grip together have throughly rusted solid and the screw heads have turned to cheese

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Are you staying with the re-routed green cable for now with a new twist grip? If so, when the time comes to want to fit the 'original' set you bought, it may be possible to  get the twist grip apart on the bench, with the aid of a pillar drill. The worst case there is that the 'original' twist grip gets broken in the process, in which case the cable can be extracted from its remains for use with a new twist grip.

[barefoot]

  On 12/01/2022 at 12:17, LightBulbFun said:

... good options for having Her transported from...

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I think you mean 'it'. I blame Walt fucking Disney for shit like this.