F#@king how much?....

[Dick Cheeseburger]

Yeah, and replacement will cost 3,437.68 plus VAT, because the digital doo dah enhancer needs to be replaced as well with a modified version

and a module that makes it backward compatible, then the front left window motor, sunroof and right driver's seat bolster inflator motor

have to be reentered into the can bus because they share the main link address with the handbrake button, spectacle washer and taillight wiper.

Yep, deffo main dealer stuff.

 

I really like the First World and people who think they need such shit and then go and finance it.

Reason for 10 year old Ford in scrapyard in 1975: Galloping rot. Everywhere.

Reason for 10 year old Ford in scrapyard in 2027: Sidelight failure.

[PiperCub]

Complete madness. They'll be getting rid of handbrake levers and sticking buttons there instead next.

 

Don't be daft, you'll be saying window winders will be electrically powered by some fancy DC motor next. 

[Des]

I sometimes change my headlamp bulbs for fun, takes a couple of mins and I'll usually splash the cash on decent replacements, maybe as much as £1.50 if I've had a good week.

My brother asked me to look at a non working tail lamp on his fucking Peugeot, after I told him where to go a garage quoted £240 to replace the whole assembly, some kind of LED shit, fair play to my bruv he sorted it himself by simply replacing a number plate bulb. I wonder if Mr. Peugeot has skimped on voltage regulation for their LED shit by simply wiring in series with a conventional bulb to get the 4V-ish that an LED likes. 

[0ldCh0d]

My 2010 Octavia VRS has LED daytime running lights fitted as standard, These also act as the sidelights on the facelift VRS, which is alright you would think?

However, when i put the sidelights on, they actually go dim, & as such, it looks like the LED lights are fucked due to how dim they go

 

When the sidelights are not on, they are bright as fuck.....But this is the way it is meant to be apparently.

 

Although.....i don't need to bin a whole headlight if the LED DRL's pack up, as they are fitted into the front bumper, which will probably need to be removed just to change the fucking thing.

 

All Modernz ARE SHIT etc...

[UltraWomble]

 

Stuff bloody HID lights on cars dazzling people, what about those fucking retina burning discotheque lights that the Lycra Clad Twats insist on pointing into the face of oncoming traffic.

[flat4alfa]

I agree with Bren

 

If this happens to you, then buy a Jackie Chan Subaru like this

 

 

So you can do this

 

 

Plod will understand.

[uk_senator]

The front indicator went in my brother HID equipped 500 Abarth a few months back, he`s a driving instructor so it has to be tip-top, so he`s popped into the local motor factors, who gave him gave him a 382 on the way to mine.. I made a start on it at about 4:20 PM, he`s got a lesson a couple of miles away at 5. No problem, we think..

 

I`ve opened the bonnet and quickly realised that you`re supposed to remove the front bumper to take the entire light out to access the bulbs.. Fan-fugging-tastic.. I did end up managing to do it `in situ` by undoing the front bumper top bolts and taking the headlight bolts out, so it could be angled/flexed enough to get the otherwise inaccessible bottom dust cover screws out. That ended up taking over half an hour.. Then, after all that, I`ve found out its not a 382, but some kind of miniature halogen that I`ve not seen before...

 

So, after some frantic Googling (and while he`s phoning his next student to cancel the lesson) I`ve discovered its a £30-from-Fiat halogen bulb, soldered to a bayonet type base.. Like a Jag heater bulb, but 5 times bigger. Apparently they are shared with some Audi`s and BM`s. Absolutely pointless. No brighter than a normal 382 or T20 but 20 times the cost.

 

By now its 5pm, rush hour in London, so he`s sped to the local (7 miles away) Fiat dealer to get the right one before they shut, then battled back through all the traffic. By now its pissing down and the lights rapidly disappearing. I finally finished at 5:45, and he`s lost the £26 lesson + £30-odd on a fricking bulb..

 

The main problem was the screws that hold the cover on the back of the lamp, the top 2, fine, accessible, but the bottom 2 were impossible to get to, thanks to AC pipes etc being in the way.

 

If the dust cover had a flap sticking out the bottom, with a corresponding groove in the lamp body and just 1 or 2 thumb screws at the top, the job would`ve only taken 5 minutes, but no.. The computers didnt think about that kinda shite when they modelled the front end..

 

Is it still law to carry a bulb kit in France? If so, why? Its not like most punters will be able to change something as minor as an indicator these days...

 

Moderns-r-shite etc...

[SiC]

Brand new cars are having sealed LED dipped and mains as standard now. I reckon they'll be unchangeable and "unserviceable". I.e. you send them off to somewhere to be remanufactured ...unless you're good at soldering.

[Felly Magic]

I bet Big Clive on Youtube would be able to make a nice sideline in repairing shitty LED car lights. It does take the piss at how complex it is becoming to change a previously simple blown headlight, the rot started at Ford when they made the headlight change on a sad face Fiesta a job of removing the front grille and headlamp unit

[Longblackcoat]

I bet Big Clive on Youtube would be able to make a nice sideline in repairing shitty LED car lights. It does take the piss at how complex it is becoming to change a previously simple blown headlight, the rot started at Ford when they made the headlight change on a sad face Fiesta a job of removing the front grille and headlamp unit

Except that HID bulbs last waaaaaaaaaaay longer than halogens. So yes, it takes longer to replace, but how often do you need to do it?

 

As for LED headlights - they'll last the age of the car in most cases

[LessThanEqual]

Except that HID bulbs last waaaaaaaaaaay longer than halogens. So yes, it takes longer to replace, but how often do you need to do it?

 

As for LED headlights - they'll last the age of the car in most cases

Apart from the times when they fail. I've seen quite a few moderns with broken LED wank, much to the pleasure of my eyes at night.

[Captain Furious]

My Mk3 Mondeo needs the grille and headlight removing to change a bulb, to be fair though it's a piece of piss and can be achieved without any tools. The headlight bulbs are xenon so they probably cost a kings ransom but it's coming up 13 years old and I've no reason to believe they're not original (ive had it 7 years and I've never replaced them, only discovered the light needs removing because of a sidelight failure)

 

A lot of times it's a case of RTFM...I remember spending ages cursing the inaccessibility of my dads Rover 75 headlight bulbs (in 2005 when it would have been a fairly new car) only to finally resort to the instruction book and find it was a doddle by accessing it via the wheel arch.

[Longblackcoat]

Apart from the times when they fail. I've seen quite a few moderns with broken LED wank, much to the pleasure of my eyes at night.

 

The percentage of cars with LED headlamps is tiny - maybe a few % of new cars, let alone the pre-existing stock - and the percentage that have failed is still tinier. And you've seen "quite a few"?

[UltraWomble]

The percentage of cars with LED headlamps is tiny - maybe a few % of new cars, let alone the pre-existing stock - and the percentage that have failed is still tinier. And you've seen "quite a few"?

To be fair, Ive seen rather a lot of cars with DRL's with one side out or LED's missing in action so I dont think they are infallible,

[jonathan_dyane]

I've seen loads of fucked led drls too; either out or flickering.

[twosmoke300]

I would say every led rear or indicator light I've replaced for not working is due to water ingress as a result of impact damage . Hardly the cars fault !

[SiC]

The percentage of cars with LED headlamps is tiny - maybe a few % of new cars, let alone the pre-existing stock - and the percentage that have failed is still tinier. And you've seen "quite a few"?

DRLs on a lot of cars are LEDs. Dipped and main in the last 2 years are going LED. Even a friend's Mazda cx-something that is a year old now has them.

[LC Torana]

A friend of my mother's paid £54 for a replacement sealed beam headlight in her nearly new 1976 Honda Civic, so eye-watering prices are nothing new.

[rantingYoof]

To be fair tho, a Volvo will munch through ten £9 bulbs in the time it takes a BMW thing to go through one £90 bulb.

 

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[cobblers]

Once these cars start going over the hill a bit, there'll be plenty of places who'll repair your modules for a quarter of the price of a new one and you won't need to recode/decode owt.

 

If a particular module fails often then it'll usually be down to a common fault of some kind - Shitty solder, iffy relay or bad design in some other way.

 

 

For example, the most common ECU I repair, cost is roughly £2500+ vat from the dealer, plus something like £400 to "program it in". We charge £300 to repair it and it'll go and another ten years.

 

That said, a lot of stuff is complete megagarbage like every fuckin adblue system and the only way to make it anything other than a money pit is to just rip it all out and run snide.

 

Urea is horrible stuff, manufacturers of equipment say "Very corrosive to Aluminium, Steel and Copper", then make the pump head blocks containing a labyrinth of tiny metering orifices out of aluminium. 3 years on it's a corroded mess that's totally scrap, if it's even lasted that long before blocking up.

They cost £1200 and are essentially consumable items. Put £1 every day in a jar and you'll have saved up for a new one just as it finally lets go.

[New POD]

Have we not got to the point where I can print a new bulb on my 3 D printer.

[RoadworkUK]

However, when i put the sidelights on, they actually go dim, & as such, it looks like the LED lights are fucked due to how dim they go

 

When the sidelights are not on, they are bright as fuck.....But this is the way it is meant to be apparently.

Um, yeah. The big clue here is in the phrase 'daytime running lights'.

 

Daytime running lights are super bright so they can be seen in daylight. Sidelights are just marker lights to help your car to be seen in low light conditions, hence don't need to be so bright, hence typically a 5w filament bulb rather than the 55/60 of halogen headlights.

 

I lost count of the number of MB customers who complained that their daylight running lights went dim at night, you know, when their Xenon headlamps were on anyway.

[Pillock]

Sidelights are 5W on the Astra, DRLs are 21W so yeah it dims them when you turn onto sidelights. But then you turn past sidelights, since nobody should ever drive around with 5W bulbs for illumination. If it's dark, put your headlights on.

 

I honestly don't know why cars still have them, they're no use to anyone.

 

LEDs are more reliable, PHAKT. Of course there's still the wiring to go wrong, but I've only ever seen a handful of cars with knackered LED lights where as every third car at the minute seems to have a headlamp bulb out.

[Hendry]

My 2010 Octavia VRS has LED daytime running lights fitted as standard, These also act as the sidelights on the facelift VRS, which is alright you would think?

However, when i put the sidelights on, they actually go dim, & as such, it looks like the LED lights are fucked due to how dim they go

 

When the sidelights are not on, they are bright as fuck.....But this is the way it is meant to be apparently.

 

Although.....i don't need to bin a whole headlight if the LED DRL's pack up, as they are fitted into the front bumper, which will probably need to be removed just to change the fucking thing.

 

All Modernz ARE SHIT etc...

My Corsa was exactly like that too, and I'm not convinced about the longevity of them considering from the moment I picked the car up brand new from the dealer the passenger side one wasn't acting as a sidelight when the dipped headlights were switched on, it was going off completely

[Eddie Honda]

I honestly don't know why cars still have them, they're no use to anyone.

 

I'll risk a guess and say there intended use is parking lights where regulations demand so.

[Richard]

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[martc]

Rover is above them on the reliability index!

 

http://www.reliabilityindex.com/manufacturer

 

Out of curiosity I compared the much maligned Chinese built MG TF to the BMW 3 series. BMW index = 205, MG TF = 128; the lower the number the more reliable the car.

 

The much admired Renault Laguna is either 76 (up to '08), or 94 for a more recent one.

[Pillock]

And should never be used on a moving vehicle. Headlights or nothing.

Which is exactly what my driving instructor said, so I presumed it was The Way.

But you still see loads of cars (inevitably there's a 50% chance we're talking a Ford Ka) with them on in fog, or at dusk

[chodweaver]

Sidelights are to make your vehicle more visible in lower light conditions and when you don't need extra illumination to see the road ahead. Headlights are for when it's so dark you cannot see where you are going without them. If I find out who thought up DLR, as I've said elsewhere, ooh, I'd give them such a kicking. Try being a cyclist in traffic at dusk when every vehicle passing you is dazzled by the Evoques coming the other way, you moron.

 

Sorry for the thread hijack. Rant over (for now)

 

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[Eddie Honda]

 

And should never be used on a moving vehicle. Headlights or nothing.

Which is exactly what my driving instructor said, so I presumed it was The Way.

Not a requirement in a built up area.

 

Highway Code rule 113.

http://www.highwaycodeuk.co.uk/general-rules-techniques-and-advice-for-all-drivers-and-riders---lighting-requirements-113-to-116.html

 

I had to look it up as I didn't think it had changed and so it hasn't.

 

May not be a Good Idea, but not something to get a ticket over.