Roffle Range Rover Roffel - It's All Over Now! Caution: Victim established!

[dave21478]

No, why would I be?

[Rocket88]

Having "AOK"  as part of a reg on an MGF is a giant leap of faith............

[barefoot]

  On 10/10/2016 at 21:08, Junkman said:

Brimmage:

 

OMG FTP oh dearage:

 

One of the funniest things on here for a while.

I hope it all works out OK.

[Junkman]

Right.

 

The water pump was royally fubared:

 

 

Basically, the impeller had fallen off the shaft:

 

 

Note how the new one is exactly the same useless rubbish.

I've never seen such shoddy engineering, but Conelrad assured me the Mini one is even worse, which I would never have deemed possible.

 

This is what was left of the shaft itself and the bearing:

 

 

 

Anyway, everything is back together now and runnage at normal temperature has resumed.

These are a bit shit to bleed, though. Applied method available on request.

[hairnet]

eek

 

going home landie parked under railway bridge with hazards on possible ftp - what come to rescue (possibly) him

 

p38

[Guest Hooli]

Never trust a car named after bodyfiller.

[andy18s]

Not a Britpart I hope........

They're not that well liked in most Landy circles

[Guest Hooli]

  On 11/10/2016 at 17:34, andy18s said:

Not a Britpart I hope........

They're not that well liked in most Landy circles

 

Known as shitpart when I was into LRs & the one time I ordered their stuff I saw why.

[dugong]

My take on this thread:

 

Junkman wanted a good low-mileage 4.6 engine and box for his P6 flotilla.

 

That he gets to use a P38 until the MoT runs out is a bonus.

 

I was really confused when I saw the start of the thread until I realised his game plan. I'd just have the pug parked nearby if I had a long trip planned.

 

The trip to the winter Buxton toy fair'll be fun.

[Dave_Q]

I say old chap, fixing it yourself fairly cheaply and easily isn't really on, these things have a fearsome reputation to uphold.

 

You could at least have got a speshulist to do the water pump for £100ph.

[Eddie Honda]

  On 11/10/2016 at 17:10, Junkman said:

I've never seen such shoddy engineering, but Conelrad assured me the Mini one is even worse, which I would never have deemed possible.

You mean you haven't seen those BMW ones with the plastic impellers?

 

 

At least that one you have there looks like it's made of Bacofoil.

[Eddie Honda]

  On 10/10/2016 at 21:20, Captain Furious said:

Guy in the pub said this would happen

Fat bloke? He reckons your Hillman Imp's a classic car now.

 

[pshome]

1971 Mercedes 280SE.............................fucked
1971 Rover P6 V8..............................not fucked
1979 Mobylette AV89.......................disassembled
1996 Land Rover Range Rover 4.6 HSE..........fucked
1997 Peugeot 405 2.0 Executive Estate..........boring

 

FTFY

[EssDeeWon]

I do like this car alot!!, probably most peoples ideal WBoD but most of us don't have balls the size of Canada, so good on you JM.

 

Please raffle it in the spring. I guarantee the tickets will sell like hot cakes.

[dome]

  On 11/10/2016 at 17:10, Junkman said:

Anyway, everything is back together now

These are a bit shit to bleed, though. Applied method available on request.

Follow internet guides, swear at it a bit when they don't work.

 

Remove various hoses to try and get it to bleed.

 

Park it at a silly angle.

 

Give up, take it out and kick fuck out of it.

 

Worked on the Jag...

[Timewaster]

I had a 405 that I changed the rad on and could I get the air out of the bastard?

I pissed about for hours squeezing hoses, taking pipes of and pouring water up them, snapping off bled screws left right and center. No heat from the heater whatever I did.

Spent so long on it I was late to meet someone, Jumped in it and drove it like I hated it (I did) and hey presto a warm heater in less than a quarter of a mile.

[Junkman]

That's pretty much how I did in the end as well.

[drum]

Today I had the wife's new (to her) golf in getting timing belt and lots of other expensive jobs done. The old water pump had plastic impellers and, when I enquired, so did the new one. Mechanic claimed that plastic was better, as if anything got into the coolant hoses that wasn't supposed to be there, the plastic would break whereas the the metal one would jam and lock the belt up. I don't know how likely that is to happen but he had seen it before, apparently.

[Eddie Honda]

Mechanic fitter is talking out of his hole saying they are better. Better only for the bean-counters.

 

A real mechanic would say metal ones are better and that he used to rebuild them back in the day....

[Captain Furious]

Isn't a metal one better because if it breaks and throws the belt off then you'll know about it immediately, rather than a plastic one breaking silently and the first you knowing about it when the temp needle is bent round the end of the gauge and OMGHGF has arrived

 

Unless it's one that runs off the cam belt I suppose..

[drum]

It is cam belt driven. I was advised to get a metal one when I had the alfa timing belt done, so was surprised with this new advice.

[They_all_do_that_sir]

Metal all the way, plastic is only ever used to save ££££££

 

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[jon928se]

Metal ones are better because they tend to come off slowly and grind away at the block ruining it but making lots of noise sometimes as a warning to turn the engine off , before they stop turning, then heat and OMGHGF plus new block required.

 

Plastic ones are better because they come off hit the block and stop turning instantly with no noise to interrupt your driving, then heat the OMGHGF

 

Fortunately the above doesn't normally happen at the same time as bearing failure where when you ignore the burning rubber smell of the cambelt wearing away on the non turning water pump pulley you get heat and OMGHGF and if lucky also get cams stop turning OMG Bent Valves as the icing on the cake.

 

Must be a good argument for electric water pumps.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

Range Rovers, yes even the P38, were very expensive hence very exclusive machines. The Landed Gentry, Captains of Industry and Top Level Gangsters drove them , hence they were serviced properly for at least the first 5 or 6 years before they made their way down the automotive totem pole to the level of The Autoshitest.

 

God help us all when the ,seemingly, millions of the feckers currently on PCPs etc make that fall from grace, if it's taken 20 years for P38's to struggle through the Fortnums image on a Nettos budget phase to the collapsed in a Council House garden final resting place, what hope for this random selection that I spotted in LHR T5 short term ,this morning?

[chaseracer]

  On 12/10/2016 at 06:58, jon928se said:

Must be a good argument for air-cooling.

 

Allow me to assist... 

[chaseracer]

  On 12/10/2016 at 07:15, NorfolkNWeigh said:

...what hope for this random selection that I spotted in LHR T5 short term ,this morning?

 

[Rocket88]

  On 12/10/2016 at 07:15, NorfolkNWeigh said:

Range Rovers, yes even the P38, were very expensive hence very exclusive machines. The Landed Gentry, Captains of Industry and Top Level Gangsters drove them , hence they were serviced properly for at least the first 5 or 6 years before they made their way down the automotive totem pole to the level of The Autoshitest.

 

God help us all when the ,seemingly, millions of the feckers currently on PCPs etc make that fall from grace, if it's taken 20 years for P38's to struggle through the Fortnums image on a Nettos budget phase to the collapsed in a Council House garden final resting place, what hope for this random selection that I spotted in LHR T5 short term ,this morning?image.jpeg

 

 

How the fuck are you supposed to get a recovery truck in there......................

[barefoot]

Do they wobble and lean over when they go around corners fast?

[Cleon-Fonte]

  On 11/10/2016 at 18:00, dugong said:

My take on this thread:

 

Junkman wanted a good low-mileage 4.6 engine and box for his P6 flotilla.

 

That he gets to use a P38 until the MoT runs out is a bonus.

 

I was really confused when I saw the start of the thread until I realised his game plan

 

My theory is the rationale is far more prosaic: perhaps Junkman, having reacted much the same as any of us would if told we regularly had to go to Leicester, has purchased the P38 to act as nothing more than an expensive and complicated excuse for never actually making it there.

[Junkman]

  On 12/10/2016 at 15:01, barefoot said:

Do they wobble and lean over when they go around corners fast?

 

It's not wobbling, at least not as pronounced as the Classic on oinga oinga springs did.

Lean is very pronounced, though (I bet this will now trigger another avalange of borked suspension pub tales).

In fast left handers, you fear falling out of the window, which would be rougly the equivalent of falling from a tower block.