martc Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 4 hours ago, sutty2006 said: That last one looks a tad heavy on the back end 🤣💪 It's full of empty Budvar bottles. sutty2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warch Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 5 hours ago, martc said: LIAZ 151.261 built towards the end of the production run. What an absolute beauty, love a 4x4 lorry. Low Horatio gearbox, martc and Dyslexic Viking 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMinorMk3 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1979, demolition in Sunderland warch, worldofceri, Vantman and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyesWeldedShut Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1 hour ago, martc said: It's full of empty Budvar bottles. Doing a runner from Lidls with the last of the tomatoes and peppers? martc and CreepingJesus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martc Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 IFA S4000 willswitchengage, MiniMinorMk3, Low Horatio gearbox and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 3, 2023 Author Share Posted March 3, 2023 This must be quite a rarity - a very early Renault Premium, now over 25 years old. The same chap also has a Volvo F88 but I think that's just for shows whereas this one still works for a living. I did catch the merest glimpse of something even older though. Looked round to see an old 6x4 tractor unit with upright pipes disappearing into the distance that had come down to the roundabout and turned left away from me - I prayed for it to come back my way but it didn't. I think it was a Scammell Crusader! Rust Collector, worldofceri, Vantman and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigstraight6 Posted March 3, 2023 Share Posted March 3, 2023 36 minutes ago, quicksilver said: This must be quite a rarity - a very early Renault Premium, now over 25 years old. The same chap also has a Volvo F88 but I think that's just for shows whereas this one still works for a living. I did catch the merest glimpse of something even older though. Looked round to see an old 6x4 tractor unit with upright pipes disappearing into the distance that had come down to the roundabout and turned left away from me - I prayed for it to come back my way but it didn't. I think it was a Scammell Crusader! I’ve driven a few of these and was impressed.. CreepingJesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiniMinorMk3 Posted March 4, 2023 Share Posted March 4, 2023 Anything was possible in the 1970s! sutty2006, bigstraight6 and Low Horatio gearbox 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Assistance request from the AS massive, yo; an Ford tractor unit looking resplendent  in unmarked white was observed on the M25\M26 earlier. The last time I recall seeing a newish Ford Lorry- as opposed to an Iveco Ford- was probably 1986. I would have been at Primary School then and I think the operator of that lorry was TNT. Anyhoo; it looked like this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Ford of Turkey makes them and they are very popular over there. A few get sold on the continent and end up with EU numberplates, but most will be Turkish reg. Good spot. Wonder if they will ever make it in RHD? MiniMinorMk3 and Leyland Worldmaster 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldofceri Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 Seen a few recently; think at least one was on Bulgarian plates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 7, 2023 Share Posted March 7, 2023 I think Ford will struggle with the UK market being very competitive between Scania, DAF, MAN, Volvo, Renault, Iveco, Mercedes  and HINO… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 12 hours ago, sutty2006 said: I think Ford will struggle with the UK market being very competitive between Scania, DAF, MAN, Volvo, Renault, Iveco, Mercedes  and HINO… Wow! Didn't realise Hi o were still selling in the UK! I remember seeing a number of their tippers. Then they seemed to suddenly disappear. Mc Kenna Demolition had one. Used to see it regularly around the Tooting\ Mitcham area! 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 3 hours ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: Wow! Didn't realise Hi o were still selling in the UK! I remember seeing a number of their tippers. Then they seemed to suddenly disappear. Mc Kenna Demolition had one. Used to see it regularly around the Tooting\ Mitcham area! 😎 I know I used to see loads, but unsure of their current status on the uk market. They were popular tipper spec, and that’s about all they were good for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5speedracer Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 19 hours ago, willswitchengage said: Ford of Turkey makes them and they are very popular over there. A few get sold on the continent and end up with EU numberplates, but most will be Turkish reg. Good spot. Wonder if they will ever make it in RHD? The F-Max, I don't know if they still do but Moody's in Grimsby could supply them at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 4 hours ago, Leyland Worldmaster said: Wow! Didn't realise Hi o were still selling in the UK! I remember seeing a number of their tippers. Then they seemed to suddenly disappear. Mc Kenna Demolition had one. Used to see it regularly around the Tooting\ Mitcham area! 😎 I think they stopped selling after Euro3 or 4 as Hino couldn't supply a compliant engine anymore. Plus they weren't very luxurious, manual only option, hose down etc. Didn't really fit the bill compared to everything else on the market. I think they're great though. They were imported via some CKD route in Ireland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 8, 2023 Share Posted March 8, 2023 It is now quite common here for Eastern Europeans to steal truck parts and disappear eastwards before the police catch them. So coming to work in the morning and finding the truck like this below is starting to become normal. Free movement between borders has its downsides. CreepingJesus, puddlethumper, Datsuncog and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/7/2023 at 7:24 PM, willswitchengage said: Ford of Turkey makes them and they are very popular over there. A few get sold on the continent and end up with EU numberplates, but most will be Turkish reg. Good spot. Wonder if they will ever make it in RHD? I occasionally see one or two, usually eastern European but I did catch one from a Dutch fleet so they're starting to find some favour in the west. Never seen one but there are a handful of LHD private imports on UK plates, and I've heard rumours Ford UK are considering official RHD imports. They might have to expand the range though as there's only one spec - 500bhp 4x2, which isn't what most British operators want.  On 3/8/2023 at 3:26 PM, willswitchengage said: I think they stopped selling after Euro3 or 4 as Hino couldn't supply a compliant engine anymore. Plus they weren't very luxurious, manual only option, hose down etc. Didn't really fit the bill compared to everything else on the market. I think they're great though. They were imported via some CKD route in Ireland The last UK Hinos were registered in 2014 and imports stopped then as they didn't have a Euro 6 engine. Harris Assemblers who sold them are now importing the Sinotruk from China, a similar basic vehicle that would appeal to the same sort of people, but have only sold a tiny handful so far. Leyland Worldmaster and willswitchengage 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
horriblemercedes Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I saw a Ford F-Max on the M42 last Friday. Plain white, UK plates. Pointed it out to my dad who was in the car with me as he has always had an interest and he was interested to see that there is a Ford HGV in production Leyland Worldmaster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, quicksilver said: I occasionally see one or two, usually eastern European but I did catch one from a Dutch fleet so they're starting to find some favour in the west. Never seen one but there are a handful of LHD private imports on UK plates, and I've heard rumours Ford UK are considering official RHD imports. They might have to expand the range though as there's only one spec - 500bhp 4x2, which isn't what most British operators want.  The last UK Hinos were registered in 2014 and imports stopped then as they didn't have a Euro 6 engine. Harris Assemblers who sold them are now importing the Sinotruk from China, a similar basic vehicle that would appeal to the same sort of people, but have only sold a tiny handful so far. The cab- and Engine designation seem familiar; reverse-engineered\ licence built Volvo? It's predecessor seems to have the 'Wendy house' cab... https://harrisgroup.ie/model/sinotruk-a7-series/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 In 2009, the German truck maker MAN bought a 25% + 1 share stake in Sinotruk (Hong Kong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willswitchengage Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Having done a lot of travelling in Asia a few years ago those Sinotruck things are everywhere, also branded Howo and CNHTC. Never saw any Volvo based though, they looked like an indigenous design: But also looks like it could be an old Volvo cab now I think about it. davocano, CreepingJesus, Dyslexic Viking and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted March 11, 2023 Author Share Posted March 11, 2023 Looks suspiciously like a reworking of the old wendy house Volvo FL cab with an Actros-style grille. There's also a high-roof version (a sort of might-have-been FL Globetrotter) and the A7 range that uses the first-gen FH/FM cabs. Interesting that those in the pic are RHD so they must be export spec. CreepingJesus and willswitchengage 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warch Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I can never really work out where the market is for some vehicles. A 4x4 tractor unit designed specifically for agricultural use sounds ridiculously niche to me, so the market must be quite small. On the other hand, I mean look at it coolest looking thing ever. I think it has extra hitches for 5th wheel and ag trailers as well as a PTO for actual fieldwork.  Behold! Btw farmers overseas do often use trucks for off field haulage in favourable (dry) conditions, it was even done in the UK by some operators. CreepingJesus, puddlethumper, Dyslexic Viking and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dyslexic Viking Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, warch said: I can never really work out where the market is for some vehicles. A 4x4 tractor unit designed specifically for agricultural use sounds ridiculously niche to me, so the market must be quite small. On the other hand, I mean look at it coolest looking thing ever. I think it has extra hitches for 5th wheel and ag trailers as well as a PTO for actual fieldwork.  Behold! Btw farmers overseas do often use trucks for off field haulage in favourable (dry) conditions, it was even done in the UK by some operators. Modern tractors are now so big and heavy that a truck is probably not heavier and with flotation tires and 4x4 or 6x6 or 8x8 they are probably no worse than a tractor.  warch, puddlethumper, CreepingJesus and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warch Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 That’s awesome, I didn’t realise you could run a big baker that quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutty2006 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Those are some impressive bits of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Guru Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, warch said: I can never really work out where the market is for some vehicles. A 4x4 tractor unit designed specifically for agricultural use sounds ridiculously niche to me, so the market must be quite small. On the other hand, I mean look at it coolest looking thing ever. I think it has extra hitches for 5th wheel and ag trailers as well as a PTO for actual fieldwork.  Behold! Btw farmers overseas do often use trucks for off field haulage in favourable (dry) conditions, it was even done in the UK by some operators. I would have thought agricultural haulage ( including forestry) was a huge industry and a 4x4 tractor would be really useful, not to mention places where the road is not tarmac. Watching Outback Truckers I always wonder why no one has a 4x4 tractor as the always seen to get stuck in the dirt roads. sutty2006 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyland Worldmaster Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I think I have this video on veeeeeaiiiitccchhhesss! https://youtu.be/S3TyaqBjpNc warch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warch Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, Metal Guru said: I would have thought agricultural haulage ( including forestry) was a huge industry and a 4x4 tractor would be really useful, not to mention places where the road is not tarmac. Watching Outback Truckers I always wonder why no one has a 4x4 tractor as the always seen to get stuck in the dirt roads. This does have some similarities with forestry trucks which, where I live seem to be 6x4 wagon and drags, often with tyre pressure systems fitted. It’s amazing where they’ll go.  Iirc the big American trucks on Outback Truckers are usually 6x4s with cross locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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