'93 Mondy thread - MOT pass

[LightBulbFun]

15 minutes ago, quicksilver said:

Ford VINs are very logical and the body style can also be determined from the 4th and 10th digits of the VIN (which are always the same as they repeat the same piece of info for some reason). Digits 4 and 10 of ours are F which must mean 4-door saloon, but I don't know what the letter for an estate is. Digit 9 is the model range, which is B for Mondeo.

BTW, the Carbaba limit is 15 lookups in a 24-hour period as determined by my own experimentation. After 15 lookups you can still put in the reg and mileage but it will ask you to fill in the vehicle details manually instead of retrieving them from the database.

ah interesting  looks like the estate is N and the 5 door hatchback is A

[LightBulbFun]

using this info looks like K615GEV-K622GEV are all mondeo's 

im not sure what K623GEV is, comes back with a completely different VIN number and is marked as an estate (is it a really early pre production estate? or just some other ford estate registried along side the early cars? it comes back with no model info on the DVLA tho which is a bit odd for a vehicle this relatively new)

some more for @greengartside to run perhaps?

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24 minutes ago, greengartside said:

Someone’s got access to Ford Etis....? I’ll find out build dates and report back.

EDIT - Results,

K913 BNC - WF0NXXGBBNPB89797 Build Date - 01.06.1993

K914 BNC - WF0NXXGBBNPB89796 Build Date - 01.06.1993

K849 BDB - WF0NXXGBBNPB89794 Build Date - 28.05.1993

K602 AJA - WF0NXXGBBNPB89792 Build Date - 24.05.1993

K856 BND - WF0NXXGBBNPB89791 Build Date - 01.06.1993

Thanks for that, so looks like early estates didn't start until May at the earliest maybe.

[greengartside]

7 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

using this info looks like K615GEV-K622GEV are all mondeo's 

im not sure what K623GEV is, comes back with a completely different VIN number and is marked as an estate (is it a really early pre production estate? or just some other ford estate registried along side the early cars? it comes back with no model info on the DVLA tho which is a bit odd for a vehicle this relatively new)

some more for @greengartside to run perhaps?

Nothing on Etis for K623 GEV. I can’t pull a VIN number because the site that used to do that is now charging for the privilege ???

LBF if you can get a VIN then I can try and run it through?

[LightBulbFun]

9 minutes ago, egg said:

Thanks for that, so looks like early estates didn't start until May at the earliest maybe.

might be worth trying the bottom few from the first "batch" I dug since I started from the picture you posted and then worked backwards from there

so I dont know exactly if lower number=older but might be worth trying K865EGM for example and see if thats a bit older?

8 minutes ago, greengartside said:

Nothing on Etis for K623 GEV. I can’t pull a VIN number because the site that used to do that is now charging for the privilege ???

LBF if you can get a VIN then I can try and run it through?

sure PM in bound

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FYI re early cars

[greengartside]

I’ve pulled the remaining chassis numbers / build dates from the previous post. Looks like start of estates was May 1993.

JBZ 7278 - WF0NXXGBBNPB89749 - Build Date 28.05.1993

AAZ 9292 - WF0NXXGBBNPB89752 - Build Date 28.05.1993

K994 BNB - WF0NXXGBBNPB89761 - Build Date 28.05.1993

K245 JAU - WF0NXXGBBNPB89772 - Build Date 26.05.1993

K448 FNH - WF0NXXGBBNPB89777 - Build Date 28.05.1993

K350 BBA - WF0NXXGBBNPB89781 - Build Date 28.05.1993

K83 BOA - WF0NXXGBBNPB89782 - Build Date 26.05.1993

K428 AOV - WF0NXXGBBNPB89783 - Build Date 26.05.1993

K911 KVC - WF0NXXGBBNPB89784 - Build Date 28.05.1993

K585 JUM - WF0NXXGBBNPB89787 - Build Date 01.06.1993

[stuboy]

stolen from Facebook page 

 

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Thanks @stuboy, nice to see some more pics of Rimini Blue UBJ.

1.8 LX I think, and early car - April 93 registered.

[LightBulbFun]

outa curiosity whats the earliest known UK registered Mondeo?, anything on a J plate or such?

[Eyersey1234]

48 minutes ago, LightBulbFun said:

outa curiosity whats the earliest known UK registered Mondeo?, anything on a J plate or such?

Earliest will be K reg as production started late 1992, J reg was 1st August 1991- 31st July 1992

[LightBulbFun]

2 minutes ago, Eyersey1234 said:

Earliest will be K reg as production started late 1992, J reg was 1st August 1991- 31st July 1992

Yeah I was wondering if there where any pre production/prototype cars or such known  

[HMC]

Curious to see what’s the age gap between the last Sierra and first mondeo In registration ( presumably there was overlap but how far)

I remember in early 1996 my dad had a choice of an 11,000 mile 1993 k Sierra azura (moon dust silver, 1.8, a sort of run out model but still a bit povo spec eg keep fit windows all round) or an early k plate ex Fleet mondeo (1.6 glx) At 120,000 miles- both at the same dealer at 5,995 sticker price. (Broombank used cars in Mansfield- presumably long since gone) 

he chose the former, rightly or wrongly. I recall that was cheap for a mondeo at the time; and probably dear for a Sierra.

[Mr Laurence]

Probably quite a big gap I’d have thought, Ford always seem to keep a fairly large unregistered supply of an outgoing model whenever a new car is introduced, possibly not wanting a repeat of the frosty reception the Mk1 Sierra got when it was introduced.

Most of the last Sierras registered seem to be Cosworths; I found a couple on Ms after a quick google

[Eyersey1234]

Didn't realise there were some M plate Sierras

[greengartside]

9 hours ago, LightBulbFun said:

outa curiosity whats the earliest known UK registered Mondeo?, anything on a J plate or such?

I have it on good authority that STB (Start Training Build) on the Mondeo commenced in October 1992, this ruling out any J-platers.

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Look this 8th April 93 registered 1.6 base. 

Best thing I've seen today, lol.

[Eyersey1234]

34 minutes ago, egg said:

Look this 8th April 93 registered 1.6 base. 

Best thing I've seen today, lol.

Phooarrr

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Sadly, it's going to become a track car. I've asked for the wheel trims, and he will give them to me for free, just need to find out where he is.

[seacow]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1993-FORD-MONDEO-1-8-LX-RED-SALOON-early-k-reg-future-classic-L-K/363117134113?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Dbabdf7a1acd545238fd799f694f094be%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D15%26mehot%3Dnone%26sd%3D363117134113%26itm%3D363117134113%26pmt%3D0%26noa%3D1%26pg%3D2380057&_trksid=p2380057.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3Aac6d005d-01cd-11eb-8864-466790e0ef5d|parentrq%3Ad68487401740aa6a45b1a45cfff68a8e|iid%3A1

This K plate for sale near me.  Also this later one also near by - both look quite pleasing!

https://www.gumtree.com/p/ford/rare-94-mk1-ford-mondeo-ghia-2.0-zetec-years-mot-serviced-new-cambelt-mint-/1385192950

 

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@seacow - thanks, both are a little optimistically priced. The second one was originally up for £3k and no offers, seems he's taken a third off that now!

[neil1971]

10 hours ago, egg said:

Sadly, it's going to become a track car. I've asked for the wheel trims, and he will give them to me for free, just need to find out where he is.

Thought the K92DAW reg looked familiar, that's the one I saw for sale and posted up a few months back, shame such an early one couldn't be saved

Early Mondeo for sale

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30 minutes ago, neil1971 said:

Thought the K92DAW reg looked familiar, that's the one I saw for sale and posted up a few months back, shame such an early one couldn't be saved

Early Mondeo for sale

Thanks for the reminder, your memory is better than mine, yep the one on the trailer. Makes sense now.

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On 28/09/2020 at 21:48, egg said:

Sadly, it's going to become a track car. I've asked for the wheel trims, and he will give them to me for free, just need to find out where he is.

Update. The trims were no good, apart from one, and that probably wasn't worth saving. I got to see the interior pictures, and it was very clean, but this is all being torn out for a track car. Not much of use to me here, as this is an Opal grey interior.

I did 'save' the stereo (with code), which arrived with me this morning, so that will live on next time mine fails!

[bunglebus]

16 minutes ago, egg said:

Am I right in thinking they were designed to have electric front windows, then keep-fit ones were designed for the miserly at a later date?

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2 minutes ago, bunglebus said:

Am I right in thinking they were designed to have electric front windows, then keep-fit ones were designed for the miserly at a later date?

Almost certainly I'd say - it's such a daft position!

[sierraman]

Wouldn’t it be a decent plan to get a spares car to break, I used to do this then you’ve a supply of useful supply of things like spare alternator, starter motor and various bits and bats. Before they’re 11 million quid for one that’s dragged out of a bush. 

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21 hours ago, sierraman said:

Wouldn’t it be a decent plan to get a spares car to break, I used to do this then you’ve a supply of useful supply of things like spare alternator, starter motor and various bits and bats. Before they’re 11 million quid for one that’s dragged out of a bush. 

It would, but space means it's a no go. In fact, I effectively had one when I had that GLX! Never mind...

I do have a recon starter motor somewhere.

[sierraman]

I’m a bit short on space so I just used to go at it over a weekend and strip it down to the shell and block. I’ve now got sheds full of bits for cars I don’t have anymore 🤣

[GrumpiusMaximus]

On 10/10/2020 at 3:00 PM, bunglebus said:

Am I right in thinking they were designed to have electric front windows, then keep-fit ones were designed for the miserly at a later date?

That's the hilarity of the MK2 Focus.  We have an absolute poverty-spec Focus in the household but it has electric front windows (rear ones can't be wound down at all in the three-door) because there is absolutely nowhere for the handle.  Presumably it's cheaper just to fit the electric windows...