Autoshite's Iconic Engines

[Junkman]

Junkers Jumo 223, a German WWII 24 cylinder two-stroke diesel aircraft engine prototype, from which Napier got the inspiration for the Deltic:

 

 

 

 

[Junkman]

In contrast, my most beautiful engine awards go to

 

The Duesenberg straight 8:

 

The Ferrari Testarossa:

 

The Offenhauser:

 

The Alfa Romeo Twin Cam:

 

which could be had in equally attractive packaging:

 

[twosmoke300]

1981 - 1984 KTM 495. Makes mince out of everything.

A modern 300 would destroy it over a 3 hour enduro

[Taff]

They sound like Aston Martin straight sixes. Is that nothing?

Besides, they do have their loyal follwership. You don't seem to be one, I understand.

 

I could be cruel and suggest a hearing test.

 

I had one in my model T, I followed it everywhere it went. It never once sounded like an AM6 but that's likely down to the exhaust system.

[Formula Autos]

Not really an Autoshite thing, but I nominate the Ford DFV. Won races between '67 and '83, despite the competition from Ferrari, BRM, Matra, Alfa Romeo and others, and was only made irrelevant by the loophole that allowed turbos into F1.

 

The DFX variant was also successful in Indycars too.

 

Plus, have you heard one at full chat? Ideally with Ronnie Peterson or James Hunt operating the loud pedal.

[Junkman]

I could be cruel and suggest a hearing test.

 

I had one in my model T, I followed it everywhere it went. It never once sounded like an AM6 but that's likely down to the exhaust system.

 

You should have installed an AM6 in your model T. It would have sounded the same, though.

[Taff]

 

The Offenhauser:

 

 

 

that's a thing of beauty

[Taff]

You should have installed an AM6 in your model T. It would have sounded the same, though.

 

ha! imagine my delight at popping the bonnet on a £50 Granny donor to discover that!

[Junkman]

A modern 300 would destroy it over a 3 hour enduro

 

You'd be pissing blood after 3 hours on a 495. Thanks God it'll have made mince out of a modern 300 after 3 seconds.

[pshome]

Surpised nobody mentioned the Ford flathead, or did i miss the entry?

Recently had the pleasure to rebuild the small Simca Vedette variant and its simplicity and ease to work on it certainly qualifies it as iconic.

 

[Bren]

Dont laugh -

 

 

Rover SD1 six pot - smooth, quiet, but sporty when thrashed.

 

Fairly economical as well.

 

I know they have issues, but so does the K series, and that found its way on here.

[flat4alfa]

Canley Triumph’s last ever engine, no?

[Junkman]

Surpised nobody mentioned the Ford flathead, or did i miss the entry?

Recently had the pleasure to rebuild the small Simca Vedette variant and its simplicity and ease to work on it certainly qualifies it as iconic.

 

 

Does the Simca unit at least have bearing shells?

The yank versions I worked on still had babbitts, which had to be poured and bedded.

[pshome]

Does the Simca unit at least have bearing shells?

The yank versions I worked on still had babbitts, which had to be poured and bedded.

it has bearing shells, easy to replace. Simca applied a number of improvements to the original Ford design. Whenever you come across a metric screw, you know Simca worked on this part. Plenty threads are metric, fun to work upon as you always pick the wrong spanner. On the other hand, everything on the 57 year old engine came apart easily, no need to use force, nothing jammed.

 

http://altefranzosen.de/archives/175-moteur-reconditionne-Teil-1.html

http://altefranzosen.de/archives/179-moteur-reconditionne-Halbzeit.html

http://altefranzosen.de/archives/184-moteur-reconditionne-fin-heureuse.html

[Taff]

Does the Simca unit at least have bearing shells?

The yank versions I worked on still had babbitts, which had to be poured and bedded.

 

 

it has bearing shells, easy to replace. Simca applied a number of improvements to the original Ford design. Whenever you come across a metric screw, you know Simca worked on this part. Plenty threads are metric, fun to work upon as you always pick the wrong spanner. On the other hand, everything on the 57 year old engine came apart easily, no need to use force, nothing jammed.

 

http://altefranzosen.de/archives/175-moteur-reconditionne-Teil-1.html

http://altefranzosen.de/archives/179-moteur-reconditionne-Halbzeit.html

http://altefranzosen.de/archives/184-moteur-reconditionne-fin-heureuse.html

 

I'm not certain, isn't that the difference between a 21-stud (American)and 24 stud (French) motors?

 

Whats that green truck with the flattie in it?

[pshome]

There are two different Simca flatheads. The small V8-60 ('Aquilon') used in the Vedette / Chambord passenger cars is a 2.3L 84HP, the one you see in my picture (in a 58 Simca chambord) . Read the full story here: http://www.allpar.com/cars/adopted/simca/simca-aquilon.html

 

Simca also built larger 3.9l ('Cargo')  and 4.3l ('Marmon') flatheads used in military trucks, but also to properly power the Ford/Simca Comete where it harldy fits under the hood.

[HMC]

Simply from my own shite owning rather than any other parameter, A further transit 2.5di nomination here. Noisy, Torquey and hard as nails. Also an honourable mention for the smoothness of the xj12 despite often dropping onto several cylinders short most of the time. 

[eddyramrod]

XUD, A series, Kent, Pinto, SBC... really, you've got most eventualities covered there!

[C1am]

7 pages gone and no-one's mentioned the Rover L Series diesel? A bit noisy, but in the near 40,000 miles I covered in my Rover 45 superbly economical, torquey and reliable. Probably Rover's best ever engine.

[xtriple]

I think the Deltic engines are fabulous I'd love to see one in the 'flesh' or better still, running.

 

'A' series motors are proper motoring icons and should be placed on a pedestal and worshipped daily - in fact it should be an Autoshite bylaw!

 

I would also like to make mention of my love of 2 stroke engines, preferably in a bike frame but I'll accept Trabbies, Wartburgs and SAABs efforts as well. They just sound so 'right'. I think that's why I like rotarys as they sound a bit like like a 2 smoke! Oh, and all the KTM love can fuck right off as a Yam 465 is THE King!

 

I'd also like to nominate the Bugatti straight 8 motors, they just look and sound glorious and I have an instant nerdgasm whenever I hear one!

 

I cannot in all good faith nominate or accept others nomination of any diesel as I hate them all! It doesn't help that I am allergic to the stinky bastards and following an old one one makes me chuck quite spectacularly and I cannot go to the fair 'cos they use diesel gennies, the bastards!

[Junkman]

I'm not certain, isn't that the difference between a 21-stud (American)and 24 stud (French) motors?

 

There were American 24 studs as well. Apparently the yanks also switched to bearing shells either in the late 30s, or right after the war.

Not sure how reliable my source is, but it looks like when the water pumps are on the block (instead of the heads) and the water elbows are in the middle, instead of at the front,

they have shells, not poured ones.

[twosmoke300]

It's funny how those old open class two strokes get put on a pedestal as being such an animal . I bet power and torque are way below what a modern 2t develops . It's just that it was produced in such a crude way in a terrible chassis that made it seem so fast

[willswitchengage]

Can I just give a great CHEERZ to everybody who has contributed to this thread? I'm going to spend the rest of my life around e-bikes, Ford 1.6 TDCI Ecoboosts and Turbofan powered aircraft with absolutely no excitement attached at all.

 

General Motors 567/645/710

 

An engine design that has been in production since 1938 and powers thousands of tugs and locomotives the world over. 2-stroke diesel with a CI/cylinder displacement the same as its designation.

 

 

General Motors 71

 

Another engine design in production for over 50 years. 2-stroke, on highway diesel.

 

 

Bristol Hercules

 

Mainly because of this video. Because an Easyjet flight to Magaluf is a very tragic thing.

 

 

Union Specific Big Boy

 

The most famous of when the US railroads were making the world's biggest locomotives to fuel 1940s war production. 6000 horsepowers.

 

[320touring]

it may not be a car, and it may not run on petrolium distillate, but by fuck, does this sound good!

 

 

NKP 765 Makes The Grade: http://youtu.be/1g_fONZSdGc

 

cheers to cms206 for making me aware or such goodernativity

[MarvinsMom]

then may i nominate these-

 

 

 

4472, or if you prefer 60103 the Flying Scotsman, i now have 6 different hornby versions of this after been exposed to railway trains from a very young age, watching my cousins running around by grandparents breakfast table. i got given my first one at 3 or years old.

 

 

and this one too-

20118 an english electric type 1- though all the EE locomotives have cool bodywork, and awsum sounding prime movers. this one is special as she is named after my home town. i saw this one, and another named "Henry Pease" been unveiled in the train station at home way back in 1987.

[Junkman]

Did someone say iconic engines?

 

 

[SOUL]

It seems those thrifty Indian engineers have taken the Peugeot XD3P engine which they made under license for donkey's year and given it a make over.  They've gone to town replacing the mechanical injection with Bosch common rail. It's still retaining the original 2498cc that you'd of found in the Peugeot 604/505, plus original crank and oil systems etc.  

 

So is the XD series one of the longest series in production for a car engine, as the first XD was in the 403 at 1959?

[Lacquer Peel]

What's that fitted to?

[flat4alfa]

7 pages gone and no-one's mentioned the Rover L Series diesel? A bit noisy, but in the near 40,000 miles I covered in my Rover 45 superbly economical, torquey and reliable. Probably Rover's best ever engine.

 

I didn't think it was one of Rovers - wasn't it a Rover development of Perkins Prima?  Has that had a mention as it powered plenty of autoshite material

[RobT]

GM family I and II engines have become a favourite of mine in recent years.  Quiet, economical, simple and robust, and the 2.0 8 valve (20NE or whatever the code is) has a nice gruff sound when you hoof it.  The 1.2 Corsa B lump was so quiet at idle you’d hardly believe it was running.

 

Rover T-series is another.  Lots of torque with reasonable economy, and in the ex-bo11ox 220 it's a perfect match.  A true giffer sleeper mobile.  I’d like to try a T-series powered 800 to see if such a good engine is wasted in a hefty old barge.