Six Cylinders Motoring Notes

[Six-cylinder]

How much power does a clock consume? 

This morning I got into the Gamma with everything switched off and there was a loud whirring sound, turned out to be the clock. How long will it take to flatten my battery?

Last Monday I went to take the Gamma to storage and a red light came up in the coolant level gauge so I checked the coolant level and it was a little down but not much. The light was still on so I drove it the 2 miles to the house to investigate. A quick read of the handbook today reveals I was looking at the fuel gauge and its warning light, why red and not yellow.

Anyway if anybody has a spare brain they could donate or failing that a gallon of petrol! 

[LightBulbFun]

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

How much power does a clock consume? 

This morning I got into the Gamma with everything switched off and there was a loud whirring sound, turned out to be the clock. How long will it take to flatten my battery?

funnily enough this subject sort of came up in my thread  a while back, as REV also has a clock fitted , in theory a clock should draw as little power as possible to avoid flattening the battery, I know the one in REV draws about 200 Microamps which is 0.0002A or 0.0024 watts, 2.4 miliwatts so  basically negligible, however at some point in the future I can always try measure it, if your still unsure (I have a fluke 87 Multimeter thats sensitive down to the Microamp range) I will say when your just sat alone in the car the ticking of the clock is surprisingly noticeable!

 

On 26/10/2019 at 19:48, Mrs6C said:

Your clock is made by Kienzle:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kienzle_Uhren

It's the same as this one:
https://www.ebay.ie/itm/JAGUAR-KIENZLE-N-L-XJ-6-12-SERIES-3-2-DASH-TIME-CLOCK-OR-A-CLASSIC-CAR/233376003379?hash=item36564b3533:g:UuIAAOSwcf1drcMW

Kienzle made car clocks for many manufacturers and many years!
https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/december-1968/46/kienzle-car-clocks-0
 

 

On 26/10/2019 at 20:14, LightBulbFun said:

ah very cool, that motor magazine article was a very interesting read  

happy to know what the current draw is! I noticed that it runs continuously in REV even with the ignition off and I was wondering how much current it was drawing, but at 200 Microamps thats sweet FA so it should not be a problem for battery drain  

(so the clock really is from/used in a Jag,.. "2 Door Convertible designed by AC fastest in its class, upgraded with components from Jaguar"  )

 

or to answer this question directly

1 hour ago, Six-cylinder said:

How long will it take to flatten my battery?

it would take about 17 years for the clock in my Car to flatten its battery (assuming a 30Ah battery is fitted, i dont actually know whats in REV! LOL)

 

 

obviously this is all assuming everything is functioning properly...

[hairnet]

LULZ etc

stronger glasses for you - you said dentist - go to the optician instead :P

how big is your handbag for the girly beemer you have there :P

 

[Six-cylinder]

34 minutes ago, hairnet said:

LULZ etc

stronger glasses for you - you said dentist - go to the optician instead

how big is your handbag for the girly beemer you have there

 

Don't understand.

Don't understand.

We have seven BMWs, two at 170 bhp, a 180 bhp, 193 bhp, 210 bhp, 231 bhp and 321 bhp, which one is girly?

[hairnet]

not talking about the better bmws you have

just that one

 

[Six-cylinder]

I am going to British Leyland Day at Milton Keynes Museum on Sunday in the Metro.

It is a closed event but I do have a spare passenger seat if anybody wants to come with me?

 

[hairnet]

48 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

I am going to British Leyland Day at Milton Keynes Museum on Sunday in the Metro.

It is a closed event but I do have a spare passenger seat if anybody wants to come with me?

 

 

here sunday

[Six-cylinder]

10 hours ago, hairnet said:

 

here sunday

Porsche Museum.

I have never been, but would love to have a look round there.

In the mid 1970s when I was an engineering student the 917 was held up as an example of how computers were helping in car design.

I have not been a big fan of Porsches but that latest 911 Turbo has something about it. Straight forward to to drive, easy to live with and with a button to make sure you can launch 0-60 every time in 2.5 secs! 

[hairnet]

Closest I've got to a 917

[hairnet]

7 hours ago, Six-cylinder said:

Say whaaaaa

I would go to unterturkheim but I've been before

[Six-cylinder]

1 minute ago, hairnet said:

I would go to unterturkheim but I've been before

I have not been there either.

[hairnet]

I'd post pics but they're all watermarked cos ohotobucket are arses

[Six-cylinder]

2 minutes ago, hairnet said:

I'd post pics but they're all watermarked cos ohotobucket are arses

yes I lost a load of pictures like that.

[SiC]

7 hours ago, hairnet said:

Closest I've got to a 917

I've got close to such machines back when I managed to go to a Porsche special event at the Dick Lovett dealer in Swindon back in 2010. Unfortunately camera phones weren't very good back then.  

There was also a interview with Walter Röhrl who turned up too, but unfortunately at that point I wasn't aware quite the history of him and Porsche. 

[HMC]

My closest proximity to a 917 came at the Le Mans museum where they have the Le Mans martini racing Vic elford/ gerrard Larousse 71 Lang heck On display. I’ve got a 1:18 example of the same in my book case as well. #saddo

[hairnet]

ive been to le mans twice but never in the museum

my 917 was at barber in alabama - they only let people down there if there was an event on 😛

[Six-cylinder]

Winter is coming. I put away the 2CV and Metro today and SORNed them.

[Six-cylinder]

On 9/30/2020 at 7:32 PM, Six-cylinder said:

Winter is coming. I put away the 2CV and Metro today and SORNed them.

Winter is coming. Today I taxed my Alfa 156 V6 Saloon, 190 bhp though the front wheels in slimy leaves and ice should make it exciting!

[wuvvum]

[LightBulbFun]

44 minutes ago, wuvvum said:

Before winter:

After winter:

dont do winter kidz!

[mitsisigma01]

On 9/30/2020 at 7:32 PM, Six-cylinder said:

Winter is coming. I put away the 2CV and Metro today and SORNed them.

How's the barn at the FoD coming on 🤔

[Six-cylinder]

1 hour ago, mitsisigma01 said:

How's the barn at the FoD coming on 🤔

Slowly, I have to rent indoor space.

[Zelandeth]

A friend for the milk float?

Kewit Electric Car

*Runs for cover*

[Andyrew]

VP Progress, not much sadly but some. 

With the interior stripped out it was time to look at the rot.  As normal theres more than first appeared but in all honesty its a fairly solid dollop. 

After looking at the rear i decided to start with the easy bits up front. 

A poke about and we have

Ns

 

 

 

[Andyrew]

I done the N.S first which was awkward as all 3 parts of the cill had to be repaired from inside as the wing is welded on, on the OS the wing is a hardly attached fibreglass one. Ive not removed it but with a few bolts out it can be pulled away enough to get some better access. 

Not to bad looking from the outside.

Time to cut out the grot. 

It got a tad bigger after this. The drivers footwell is heavily pitted in some areas and whilst its got plenty of life in it, it was easier to trim a bit more and weld to better steel further in.

Right then.

Inner support panel knocked up and welded in. Whist i know the 6s would have been happy with a MOT style patch over the grot ive trimed out as much as can and  Ive done lap joints just to speed things up a bit as Function over form is the plan. Everything cleaned back and weld thru zinc primed if its being enclosed.

After that, the little angle piece is folded up and the plug welded along the bottom seam with the odd tack up top whilst i jigged it about. The floor hole now bigger. 

Floor panel folded up and welded in also the wheel arch bit knocked up and buzzed on. 

With various hammers, a chuck of railway sleeper and a welding glove a new outter sill end was formed and fettled in place. Cleaning some paint back revealed a couple of pinholes in the sill so i cut out the bad area and welded on a wee patch. Theres a cover over the sills so didnt make sense to let in and smooth it off.  Splash sheild mount made abd welded on aswell. It was then Cleaned back and coated with some bonda rust primer. 

 Passenger side received the same treatment. Id done this side first but didnt take any pics. 

Both footwells have been wire wheeled.  Rust converted and bonda primed.  The original seem sealer will coming away so i cleaned it out and will re do it. 

 

Had a day out in the thame area with my good lady yesterday and whilst there i dropped the VP carpets off to @beko1987 for some wet vac love. 

[beko1987]

I have plans, I just need the time to do them now! No harsh pressure washing or drill brushing required, some good old fashioned @vulgalour style love is all that's needed!

Need to hunt the hose and solution tube out for my vax really... 

[Mrs6C]

Wow. That is magnificent. Thanks so much @Andyrew and @beko1987. The VP really is getting the VIP treatment, being pampered in this way at her luxury Spa!

[Andyrew]

One of the planned welding days was scuppered by my sneezing thing and when feeling a bit poop welding is the last thing i want to do. So i do some simple jobs. 

With the seats out i decided to give them a clean to see if theres room for improvement. 

That would be a yes then.

Some mild APC and a detailing brush and we get a much brighter in person seat. 

 

[Six-cylinder]

I have just caught up, fantastic to see the VP's future being secured with such great work.

[beko1987]

10 minutes ago, Six-cylinder said:

I have just caught up, fantastic to see the VP's future being secured with such great work.

That looks like the scene from some grim oop North type film set in the late 90s...