Minimad5 Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Urgh i hear you say 'remoulds !!!' Just how bad are remoulds, and has anyone had the aforementioned Winter Tact, brand of TUV approved tyres ? I ask, as my local tyre fitter offered me them for £15 a corner, which to me is a bargain.Although if they are shit, then i will give them a miss and spend quite some more, on decent rubber.
MarvinsMom Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 i didn't know that you could still get remould tyres, i thought they had been banned/outlawed?!?!! £15 is nice an cheap, but i would not be wanting them on my car. personally. i had one de-laminate on me once on the motorway, a proper brown trouser moment that i wouldn't like to repeat. plus as the tyre came to bits the flailing bits or crap made abit of a mess of the wing to add insult to injury? how much are proper tyres compared to remoulds?
Minimad5 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 Rrp is £40, but he will do them for £30, which is an okay brand Goodridge.
spike60 Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Many years back when I lived on the back of the Pennines and we seemed to have winters I used to buy shit winter remoulds for the winter beater, £11 a corner even then. No real problems, they lasted about 4k miles but winter grip decreases as the shoulders of the blocks wore, and they weren't half soft rubber. Wouldn't want a fast motorway run with them.
MarvinsMom Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 for me personally, that's a no brainer, as proper tyres aren't outrageously dear, i'd buy the proper ones just to give me the piece of mind that one or more tyres aren't plotting to come to bits underneath me. i know that even new tyres can fail, but there would be some more comfort for me,
Minimad5 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 I wouldn't normally consider them, but since they were TUV approved, i thought they must have been at least 'okay'. I'll try find some online reviews for the Goodridge ones Urko 1
Pillock Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 TUV is pretty stringent though isn't it? And aren't remoulds made the same way as real tyres - make a carcass out of fabric and rubber, and then cast a tread into the outside. Would be genuinely interesting to know the differences and failure rates. I know the Autoshite way is to fit a 1972 Goodyear Crossply you find in the canal, but there is a £60 difference between remould and new - which for me would be the difference between remould and not bothering with winter tyres. Conrad D. Conelrad, HH-R and CGSB 3
fordperv Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I've just had a quick Google and the reviews are decent ones, the only downside I've read is they take alot of balance weights, tyre technology has come a long way, think of it this way most of the one life live it brigade are using remoulds (insa turbo), I wouldnt be using the winter remoulds in the better weather though
mat_the_cat Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I bought a set of Kingpin remoulds for one of the Discoveries in 2010. They're around half worn after 20k miles, but have started to perish badly enough for me not to want to use them on the road again. That said, I had full confidence in them on the road, including a 2000 mile round trip through France at motorway speeds. No idea how this relates to the ones above, but at least they're not necessarily a death trap! brickwall 1
Inspector Morose Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Don't forget that buses and coaches (and lorries for that matter) use remoulds as a matter of course. Tyre cycle goes something like new on steer axle, recut, remould on drive axle, recut again then scrap. If they were tuv approved I'd have no qualms about fitting them. IIRC there used to be a German remould that was pretty highly speed rated and approved for sporty fast stuff too. Can't remember the name but I used them on all my stuff for a few years and never had a problem with them (damn cheap too)
MarvinsMom Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 i thought that a remoulded tyre was exactly that. you take a used carcass and mould new rubber in over the top of it? having had one come to bits on me, that certainly looked like that when it happened to me. it was as if the outer rubber tread on the tyre had been peeled off leaving the inner carcass on the wheel. i realise £60 is a goody amount of money but what price do you put on your own safety? saucedoctor 1
Lacquer Peel Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I've used Kingpin tyres in the past with good results, they aren't of the same standard as the awful remoulds you got pre-2000s. groovylee and brickwall 2
skattrd Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Winter tact are also sold by mytyres, and European made iirc. I've got some on the boring, no complaints from me.They do have the biggest tyre weights I've ever seen fitted, but meh, they do the job.
Minimad5 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 Thats where tyre bloke got them... Well actually his customer, who ironically wrote off the car en-route to get them fitted God knows what car he had, but thankfully the same size as Volvooh (205 65 15) Might give them a try, and bin them if they are shit.
brickwall Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I have Kingpin too and I'm very happy with them. groovylee 1
NorfolkNWeigh Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I've run Colways on Discos for years and never had any problems. Don't know about putting them on a proper car that might do more tham 70 though. M'coli and groovylee 2
Lankytim Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 I've found remoulds to be good, but they perish to fook pretty fast. They are made in exactly the same way as new tyres, but they use a reclaimed carcass with the old rubber shaved off and new rubber moulded on.
mat_the_cat Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 ...and with them aimed at people who can't afford/justify a new tyre, they're not going to mould on premium, long lasting rubber.
HillmanImp Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 My only experience of remoulds is the tyre completely shredding at 40mph on the way back from Bromley pageant in 94. Never (knowingly) used them again.
The Moog Posted December 27, 2014 Posted December 27, 2014 Wintertracts fitted to civic a couple weeks ago. Seem fine, no kittens killed. Grip well enough and do ok in mud. Haven't had them out in omgsnokaos yet. Miles better than budget mismatched shit that was on there before. Car isn't a keeper so wasn't going to spend megabucks on tyres
Minimad5 Posted December 27, 2014 Author Posted December 27, 2014 Thanks guys for all the replies.Have found them on My Tyre website, and emailed them for more information, as not sure Garry or his son have ever heard of them before.
Parky Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Slightly off topic but whilst suffering from a bit of insomnia the other night I watched an episode of "How it's made" on Discovery which showed how remoulds are made. When done properly they do look to be as good as a new tyre. Still not sure I'd put them on a Veyron but I think for winter replacements or new boots for a second town runabout I think they'd be perfectly acceptable. UltraWomble 1
Inspector Morose Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 It's all about the preparation of the donor carcass. Get that wrong and you get tread rings scattered around the motorways of Britain.
PiperCub Posted December 28, 2014 Posted December 28, 2014 Don't have a massive issue with remoulds from reputable sources, had good experiences with Colway (now defunct?) for instance. But they did wear quicker and some less know brands (Kwik-Fit's ones) perished real fast. But as most appreciate, you get what you pay for. I think the quality of a remould depends as much on the base tyre as it does on the process, I recall reading that some premium brand tyre carcasses were not suitable for remoulding (Pirelli springs to mind). Just looked at WinterTact's for the 406, only £30 each plus fitting per corner. If I were keeping this car for a couple of winters I'd pick up another set of steels (usually cheap as everyone wants alloys these days) and get a set as for the money it's seems a good deal to me.
forddeliveryboy Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 These are still available through tyreleader and mytyres, about £31 for a 195/65/15. Supposedly built around only Mich/Conti carcasses, they beat any budget range hands down. I've used them for the last 5 years and they're good. Managed to bag a set of Vredesteins for barely any more last October, though - as yet unused. Living where we do it's foolhardy not to have a set of winter tyres at hand. Watching second-homers make rapid retreats when it starts to snow is only second to seeing them get stuck in their 4x4s when the snow catches them out. Lacquer Peel 1
gordonbennet Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 Not so long ago at least some of the pool track cars at Bruntingthorpe ran on Colway remoulds. Many many years ago my boss issued me with a brand new DAF 2500 tractor unit, was a bloody good little motor too, what it lost in headline power it made up for in superb handling and the most precise steering to date. He pissed me straight off by removing the drive axle tyres, storing them for steer axle use (all same tyre pattern in those days), and fitted a set of Kenprest remoulds to the arse end, talk about spit yer dummy out...however talk about egg on face and humble pie, that set of Kenprests is to date the best tyre i've ever had on a lorry drive axle by miles, you could not unstick the bastards wet or dry, and trust me i used to drive like and even bigger twat then.
HH-R Posted February 15, 2016 Posted February 15, 2016 My brother used to always put remoulds on his Civic and never had any problems, don't know of the brand though. Budget brand new tyres tend to be made of concrete or something so last for a billion miles but have poor adhesion I've found. Wouldn't buy remoulds myself - but the shite I drive always has tyre sizes that make buying mid range new a no brainer.
xtriple Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 Back in the day I always had remoulds on my cheap cars. I preferred them to budget new ones. They never seemed to last long but gripped well. Colways.
skattrd Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 No complaints about winter tact remoulds from me ... except, not recommended for drag racing.
The Moog Posted February 16, 2016 Posted February 16, 2016 Civic has full set of these on and are really good. On a hill next to us is the rubbish tip so the road is covered in a grime slime stuff. Civic doesn't slip at all.
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