Loosing the will to sell a car.

[Pillock]

Set fire to their solicitor as a warning.

[Parky]

I have read this thread and can only add "do not sell this car to these people"

 

But if you go ahead, get the receipt signed properly and even better, get an independent witness (fellow shiter, or Breadvan!) to sign it too. Makes it much harder for people to throw their toys at a later date when there is another party to disagree with them

[John F]

Make them do a spelling test. If they fail, don't sell them the car.

 

And set fire to them.

[mercrocker]

Just tell them your wife says they can't have it....

[bub2006]

^^^I like that idea

[scruff]

When I showed them the bills I had spent and told them when I worked full time I didn't hesitate on spending £500 a year on servicing repairs and MOT advisories to keep her in A1 condition.

 

I was met with it better not cost us that as we don't have money 

 

Says it all. TBH she (unfortunately) sounds like the majority of irrational, bunny boiling, non-car-understanding, blame claim seeking skintflints that habitate "the other side of Brighton". You just know that car is gonna be run into the ground and you'll be the one they ring when it goes wrong. Give them back their £100 and they can use it towards their Littlewoods bill or whatever. Argh I hate people. 

 

I'm back in Worthing for Christmas and if I had the urge for an A4 I'd bite your arm off as it looks like a cracker, here's hoping the shiter who is interested can do a deal with you.

[Parky]

Anyone on for a guess on the weekly payment terms they are going to insist upon?

 

I will go for ten pounds a week, interest free, which ends after three weeks when they withhold payment when it runs out of petrol.....

[Cavcraft]

I was met with it better not cost us that as we don't have money and tried to explain its just the general cost of car ownership and if you want to keep a car in good order you have to spend money.

 

 

 

 

That's why I usually suggest that if someone has X amount to spend on a car, not to spend all of it on the purchase. That way if something does go wrong or needs money spending on it, you are covered. If you have no spare cash after the purchase you're going to be knackered if something as simple as a puncture occurs. Got £1,000? Buy a car for £750. Got £500? Buy a car for £350, etc.

 

Anyhow, let's see how this pans out, sometimes you can be surprised and they'll turn out to be great buyers and you won't hear from them again. Oh, if I smell trouble with buyers I let them go on and on about all the 'faults' they've found and have a decent test drive. Once they've bought it, I simply write a receipt  saying something like 'Sold as described after test drive and faults found by buyer, no warranty offered or implied.' Occasionally people take umbrage to this, then I just remind them it was they who said the car had extra 'faults' not me, though as we all know these 'problems' are just invented ones to try and chip the price down.

[Lacquer Peel]

I remember someone jarring me up asking if my mum's £300 SAAB 9000 had full service history. I don't know what relevance an oil change in 1998 is now we're well in to the 21st century, recent service history is what counts.

 

These people are probably bred from the Money Saving Expert forums, ill advised expectations, guided by people who have a lot more money to spend on cars.

 

My car buying budget is always low and I don't go in expecting the moon on a stick, but can appreciate people being reasonably thorough to make sure they're not buying a dog.

[Bren]

When wifes galant was put on mongtree I got a text from some scruffy twat asking if there was petrol in it - no other questions about the car.

 

We can laugh, but I think this is a reflection on society as there is a definite underclass that is getting bigger.

 

Sadly most of these people have yet to realise they are the underclass.

[Felly Magic]

It does seem that we are virtually all in agreement that these will be utter mongtards, that will go bat shit crazy on you if a numberplate light blows. For the sake of your sanity, give em the cash back

[hairnet]

Have you fooked them off yet

 

The other chap will have bought summat else

[PiperCub]

When wifes galant was put on mongtree I got a text from some scruffy twat asking if there was petrol in it - no other questions about the car.

 

We can laugh, but I think this is a reflection on society as there is a definite underclass that is getting bigger.

 

Sadly most of these people have yet to realise they are the underclass.

 

Ah, I had this a couple of years back when selling my 1200 Bandit "Is there any fuel in it?" I simply replied "Seriously?" Heard no more, thankfully.

 

Maybe it should be responded to  - no, I drained every last drop out - don't forget to bring a jerrycan if you want a test drive.

 

I can't recall who said it but they were spot on  - Life's too short to waste dealing with wankers -

[Vince70]

I actually got asked by the buyers wife if it had a full tank of petrol as she needed to know if the tank would leak or was rusty and the only way of telling would be if I filled it up so I better go and brim it up with 50 quids worth of Shells finest for her.

So you wasn't far out Bren lol.

 

I'm really hoping that when the couple pop back that they try and knock me on the price.

 

My young nephew loves cars so I could always keep the old Audi and give it to him the only problem is he's 3 years of age so once he starts learning to drive the car will about 34/5years old.

 

But today my brother and his wife popped over with the kids and we got our old matchbox cars out and my little nephew seemed to like the bashed up Green Mk1 golf out of all the 100s of cars to play with so I would say he's going to be into the VAG scene and he doesn't seem to mind Amazon green lol

 

But by that time it will carry some full on VAG scene tax and being a youngster the car will end up with about 25 pineapples strapped to an ill fitting roof rack and the suspension will collapse under the weight lol.

[drum]

You sound like an honest seller Vince, who expects some honesty from the buyer. This is a good thing and I hope they don't let you down.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Sounds horrendous this, suppose you've got to go with it now but my moneys on more grief, probably on Christmas day. At the first sign of any trouble tell em to FOAD and give em their deposit back (after getting your neighbours staffy to piss on it).

[xtriple]

I know this is going slightly 'off topic' but I've already said my piece about these buyers.

 

Back when I was a trader I used to 'kill' loads of deals with people like these. They are always a nightmare and ten times worse after the deal is done. Just kill it now. Tell them it's got a huge oil leak/gearbox stolen/HGF or something.

 

Unamusingly enough, it's always for cheap cars that you get problems with the buyers: as said before, they expect perfection and a full tank for fuck all. Man I've got shitloads of amusing stories to tell... just I'm a boring sod and no one wants to read them (sob!).

 

When I first moved into this grotty little shithole of a flat I was soooooo skint it was untrue, the Merc was gone and I needed cheap wheels with TandT and a decent chance of lasting a few months until I could get back on my feet (ha ha figuratively and literally!) and everything I looked at for sub a grand down here was a pile of shit.. and not in a good way! Finally, a mate of mine asked me if I knew anyone that would buy his Scenic as he was sick of the fucking mongs who came to look at it!

 

I didn't even know he was selling it, and he never thought I'd be interested as I was into different stuff, but life changes.... He'd had the car for 8 years, and worked for Renault as a mechanic and it had a full service history and because he's a fussy bugger, it was 'over-serviced' he just changed the cambelt again and put new discs and pads on it as they were a few miles old.

 

X132 XPF (I think!) and it was a mega high spec thing and EVERYTHING worked, even the air-con was ice cold and the twin electric roofs were fine. It had a couple of love bites on the bumpers but that was it and he wanted £500 for it including nearly a years tax and loads of mot! I snatched his fooking hand off sight unseen.

 

It was great and cost me nothing in the six months I ran it and when it was time to move it on, no one would buy it, it even had a new MOT then. The dealer where I bought my Mazda gave me the tax back and £325 for it after the deal was initially done ( and discounts sorted so this wasn't a sweetener). I put it up on Facebook and offered it for £300 to anyone needing a good, cheap car, no one bit and the trader sold it on to another trader who used it himself for ages.

 

So, these people you are dealing with, want to join the VAG group on the cheap, they are not after a decent cheap car, they want something to impress the neighbours on the cheap. They can't afford to run it and they will be on your case until the lights finally go out or we organise a day trip for shiters to their house and set up camp on their lawn.

 

Of course, we could all be wrong....

[EssDeeWon]

I actually got asked by the buyers wife if it had a full tank of petrol as she needed to know if the tank would leak or was rusty and the only way of telling would be if I filled it up so I better go and brim it up with 50 quids worth of Shells finest for her.

 

 

It gets better..... So it sounds like they are trying to wrangle a free tank of pez then?

 

Did she also suggest taxing it for them, thus proving it does have a valid MOT? Especially as one of the MOT certs was out of date order, which does smell very fishy indeed and often suggests a dodgy car with a shady past. This bird knows her shit.

[Rusty_Rocket]

I may be doing this couple a massive disservice.. but I suspect a fuel leak only when the tank is full is not going to be a problem to someone who can't afford a £500 car 

 

Also, how bad will we feel when they turn up on Tuesday, with the correct money, in a nice envelope, straight from the cashier at the local Natwest branch?!

[junkyarddog]

Plastic fuel tank on an Audi,

so doubtful it would be leaking.

 

You could fill it with water just to make sure

[Taff]

I don't smell burning...

[UltraWomble]

I had a Maestro once with 12 months test, cost me £200

That had a leaky tank when full - so I never put more than a tenners worth in at a time. 
Jeez, this was 10 years ago and it was a cheap shitter to run me to work and back - I never expect perfection in a car costing less than 10 grand

[garethj]

When I sold my Skoda (VAG) Octavia the buyer seemed honest, he arrived in a Rickman Ranger so clearly had the right mindset.  He could only get £400 out of the cashpoint so left me £300 as deposit on the £600 asking price.  Seemed fair to me, and to be honest you either get a feeling someone is alright or your spidey sense is tingling and warning you off.

 

He arrived 2 days later with the rest of the cash, we shook hands and everything was peachy.

 

If you really carry on with your buyers (if only there was someone who advised against it) I doubt your story will be as happy.

 

One thing's certain, we're all going to be following this thread with interest.  Can you do some kind of webcam link when they come over?  If you can rig it up as a kind of group skype call we can all shout advice through at the right time.

[Vince70]

Well I popped over to my parents earlier on as I needed to give my father the keys and service books And he has the deposit etc just incase he gets mucked about over the sale as I will be at work when the guy pops over on Tuesday.

 

And my father was saying now if they muck him about he wants the car even though I got him his BMW the other week but then again he's been an Autoshiter before it was fashionable especially as he loved a good BL product in its day.

 

So I suggested keeping the car between us and leaving it in my garage as a backup vehicle and if it needs any servicing or repairs etc we just split the price down the middle for future repairs etc and it's not as if the car owes me anything really as it's been a fantastic car for the last 4 years.

 

He's really looking forward to being a part owner of an old A4 now so I can see him not letting them have it anyway so it's wait and see.

 

The thing is I've never really had this problem with all the previous sales in the past (and there's been a few) so I'm just wondering if this is a new breed of car buyer or I'm just unlucky.

 

The thing is I like to think all people are the same as ourselves and you do get a gut feeling when buying a vehicle but more to do with the person rather than the car and I'm sure I don't come across as dodgy (maybe a bit common lol).

 

But it's like the other week when I popped up to Peterborough to get the BMW.

I didn't even look at the car when the guy wanted to show me as I just knew he was straight as a die and just a normal bloke who was an ex diesel fitter so you just knew he had looked after it and you get that gut feeling about people.

 

He wanted to point this and that out on the car but I was more interested in just having a chat over a cup of tea and most of my car buying/selling has been the same in the past.

 

When selling this one the women must of thought I was just some dishonest low life and it was just not the car she was questioning but also my morals.

[philibusmo]

Did you have a silver A4 TDI?

[chaseracer]

The 205 was 'advertised' on the side of the A5 with a piece of cardboard in the back window.  

 

Expectations duly calibrated, I followed Domestic Management's orders ("I've seen a 205!  Go and have a look!  Here's some money!") and, after a swift test-drive and clocking the factory-fresh boot floor, gave the man the full asking.

 

Gentlemen, the shiter's way... 

[hairnet]

I may be doing this couple a massive disservice.. but I suspect a fuel leak only when the tank is full is not going to be a problem to someone who can't afford a £500 car 

 

Also, how bad will we feel when they turn up on Tuesday, with the correct money, in a nice envelope, straight from the cashier at the local Natwest branch?!

2nd paragraph will not happen

[Vince70]

Did you have a silver A4 TDI?

I wouldn't own a diesel unless it's an XUD lump as that is the shiters diesel lump of choice especially in non turbo form.

[garethj]

Hang on, this might be getting worse!  You're going to let them come over on Tuesday, spending another £20 in fuel, and then give them the deposit back?

 

This will end up in a huge shouting match between the bloke's wife and anyone who will listen.  Take the deposit over to them.

[Vince70]

Hang on, this might be getting worse! You're going to let them come over on Tuesday, spending another £20 in fuel, and then give them the deposit back?

 

This will end up in a huge shouting match between the bloke's wife and anyone who will listen. Take the deposit over to them.

He can have the car that's not the problem but if she starts asking for another test drive or money off etc or I want another look at this and that again first then it's going to be here's your money back.