chaseracer Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I was not looking for legal advise here.And no one has offered any. None of us are lawyers. BV72 went ex perambulato some time back and Martybabes seems to be keeping a professional distance, quite sensibly IMHO. No; the genuine and heartfelt advice has been that you should consult a lawyer. Everyone wants you to get justice here, and this is the best way to achieve that. Now the facts... ...are not in dispute, and have been known since page 1. See above. Please. Cavcraft, Banger Kenny and scruff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plasticvandan Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I would imagine the "damage" to the recovery truck will cost a lot,and therefore the RAC (presumably being landed for the bill) will be wanting to recover their costs from the op.last time I checked the RAC werent short of a few quid,so have all the legal resources they need to do this.shitting on your own doorstep while people give you advice (right or wrong,at least listen) isnt a good thing to do,if you didn't want replies why post in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martybabes Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 And no one has offered any. None of us are lawyers. BV72 went ex perambulato some time back and Martybabes seems to be keeping a professional distance, quite sensibly IMHO. Martybabes made his comments some while back on this thread:http://autoshite.com/topic/18447-need-some-legal-advice/I have nothing more to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Martybabes made his comments some while back... Good point, well made - and worth repeating... The issues are nowhere near as clear-cut as others herein may have hinted at. These are just some I have spotted:Your Service Level Agreement with the RAC (and what you are entitled to expect of them [express and implied]);Your legal relationship (via the RAC) with C&S (ie who do you sue?);Your actual loss (to be quantified and justified in your particulars of claim);Any consequential losses (and the forseeability therof); andWhether, and to what extent, you owed a duty of care to C&S. Have a look in the yellow (beige?) pages or http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/for-the-public/using-a-solicitor/find-a-solicitor/ to find a civil litigation lawyer. You may have to pay more than you will recover in costs (provided you win) but you need to balance your losses against the costs of (and the bounty for) winning. Banger Kenny and saucedoctor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Well the van was stolen last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigel bickle Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Oh, Fred! Rains/ pours interface.... Wher was it, in your yard? I've kept out of this as I didn't have anything useful to add, but feel sincere commiserations are well in order here. Whatever the issues, you didn't need that! I hope it was still insured? Is it drive able? Been round the pikey sites? Are plod being any help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oman5 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Aw shit, that's bad news on top of everything else. Hope you get it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Oh great. Certainly ain't looking good. Stupid as it sounds though could it be something to do with the recovery firm? Sounds far fetched but you never know oldcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 The van still had no front hub/wheel. It had only one of the two on one side and that was held on with only two wheel nuts. NOT driven away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket88 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Oh great. Certainly ain't looking good. Stupid as it sounds though could it be something to do with the recovery firm? Sounds far fetched but you never know Ahem..............the cynic in me is saying "how very convenient for them"............................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keymaster Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 That sounds dodgy as fuck, sorry Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drum Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Where was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbaldy Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Maybe the original recovery driver didn't like the way he was being called all over the internet and just wanted to prove to himself that he could load it properly,Maybe he lost his job over it and seeks revenge. Either way it is not the easiest of things to hide now is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 What a nightmare for you, but as has been said sounds iffy to me.Hope you get it all sorted out, bet is hassle you could do without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bub2006 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Mmmm sounds dodgy. Issues with recovery firm,Luton not being able to be driven is stolen. Needs a flatbed to shift it. Suspicion is high here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 As I said, it wasnt driven away. Theres a lot of our life in that van. For one the ashes of the dog that died 18 months ago. Gary took em to work with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danblez Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Where was it? Any CCTV? I imagine the police are actively persuing this as we speak!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Police are looking through cctv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Oh and the loss adjuster says C&S claim the van was overloaded. Was that why they loaded it up then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 The RAC are refusing to accept liability. I will have to go to court over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trigger Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 What was in the back of the van when it got loaded up and do you have photographic proof if it was empty? That would help you a long way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Tidybeard Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 an inventory and proofs of delivery may help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 What was in the back came out of a SWB. Dont have pics but the leading fire officer saw in the back of the van and agreed it wasnt overloaded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lankytim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 How would they know it was overloaded? Did they take it to a weighbridge? Now it's vanished would this now be an insurance claim for theft? As has been said, this could make things easier for the recovery firm..... very fishy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Its all for shit now. Your evidence is gone so your case is gone. At best this is a theft claim for your insurance company now and they will attempt to settle with the yards insurance since it was in their care at the time. Since at the time of theft it was provably broken down, dead bearing, torn chassis, snapped axle pins etc etc, and you now have no way to prove it wasnt a complete rotter, its value will be minimal. IF the recovery firm have disappeared it, thats it gone. They may be dim, but they wont be stupid enough to let it turn up somewhere. It will be on its way to China by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FredTransit Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 Yeah thanks. I don't think I will see her again, but I don't think I needed you to spell it out like that. My dogs ashes were in the van. Take the piss if you like. Blame me. It cant get any worse. Take that how you like. And fook off. I really am grieving about this. Its the pinnacle of three shit weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggers Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Really sorry to hear about the ashes, that's a hard one. Vans can be replaced, sentimental stuff can't. Banger Kenny and mat_the_cat 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21478 Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 If you think thats taking the piss, you need thicker skin - it was a statement of facts. I think thats three times now you have told me to fuck off for taking the time to give you advice..... Thats exactly what I am going to do. stephen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheggers Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Leave it now Dave. Fred's clearly upset, and all we can possibly do is advise on stuff that should have been done weeks ago. It is clearly a problem, but it ain't ours to solve... PS: When viewed on an iPad on Tapatalk, your Avatar looks like he's just shit a watermelon (there's a green circle to show you're online in just the right place) mat_the_cat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cavcraft Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I don't honestly think there's much that can be added to this thread now. I, and I expect all of Autoshite, hope you get your van back, Fred, or at least whatever justice you deserve. Cheggers, The Moog, Banger Kenny and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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