Divla crash highlighting double tax and other probs

[Matt]

I'm torn whether to keep the last tax disc in my window forever, or remove it now hoping I can wind some curtain twitcher up who doesn't know the new rules. Might waste some of the DVLA's time too, double win.

 

Go one better, put the most recent expired disc in.

 

No more selling a car as taxed and tested for 12 months.

 

Hopefully people use half a brain cell and state the price that they want <i>including</i> the cost of six or twelve months tax otherwise every car you look at buying you will have to ask 'but what does it cost to tax?', look it up then add it to the price the seller wants.

[forddeliveryboy]

Let's make it as difficult (and expensive, unless you've loadsamoney) as possible to remain above the law.

 

Putting on the serious hat for once, it's a well-known technique pioneered in the Home Office/whatever it's called today, to make sure people have to fill out lots of forms and keep abreast of ever-changing legislation, which is supposed to prevent people from becoming hermits.

[Christine]

Dunno if its been mentioned , but i taxed mine on the 29th , over the phone for 6 months, and the voice didn't mention "insurance checked" ... just "MOT checked electronically"...

[Mr_Bo11ox]

they havent been checking insurance for several months now. Keep up at the back!

[Alan_Green]

I'm torn whether to keep the last tax disc in my window forever, or remove it now hoping I can wind some curtain twitcher up who doesn't know the new rules. Might waste some of the DVLA's time too, double win.

So I can take the current tax disk out of my 1982 car and put a 1982 tax disk there instead just for fun.  Cool. Might just do that.  Or better still a "Tax In The Post" sign.  Or a beer mat,

[Jim Bergerac]

Anyone noticed alot of 'vehicle not found pages?

 

tried SWMBO's old corsa - OY52ETV, Y874RCB, the puma, my mate tried a few and nothing

 

Do dead cars not still display a page showing when it was last taxed, so you knew if there was a few years gap it was probably dead? SWMBO's sad that her old car's probably been scrapped now!

 

On the plus side my old ZX is mot'd and taxed until next summer, glad to see it's having some love!

 

If a certificate of destruction was issued against a car then it's removed from the database. That's always been the case. Not all dead cars have CoDs issued against them so should still appear on the database. Assuming none of the almost inevitable DVLA dropped bollocks,

[HillmanImp]

I see that the outage of the DVLA website has resulted in mass protests in Hong Kong of all places. Hopefully the government is taking note and not just thinking 'Sod it, the British people a a bunch of wet lettuces, we can do owt us and they just sit there and take it. Now, how can I reduce some tax for my Mummy and Daddy with overly complicated legislation?'

[DodgyBastard]

I didn't get the v5 for my 340 but have the green slip. Am i right in thinking i could tax it online because now there will be no tax disc sent to the previous owner? If so i'm tempted to pay it monthly when it comes in.

[beko1987]

If a certificate of destruction was issued against a car then it's removed from the database. That's always been the case. Not all dead cars have CoDs issued against them so should still appear on the database. Assuming none of the almost inevitable DVLA dropped bollocks,

 

Aah that would make sense then. My old Puma and 206 certainly would have had COD's issued.

 

 

Farewell OY52 ETV, with your rattly timing chain and other pulleys, your thirst for oil and tendancy to mayo yourself up to shit unless I thrashed it to work and back every day (I worked further away from home than amy at the time) and your leaky bulkhead that filled the footwells with water!

[nigel bickle]

So, if you set up a 12 month direct debit, and the MOT expires in three, will they continue to take payment on a car they now know isnt legal?

And if they stop, and you subsequently get a ticket a few weeks later, will they sutomatically restart (seeing as you've agreed the mandate) or will you need to re- apply?

[Richard]

I think I read that the tax is automatically cancelled as soon as the MOT expires.

[beko1987]

and then they will fine you for something...

[Bren]

Apparently tax discs are being offered on ebay for silly money - ones that expire in 2015 are being advertised for four figures.

 

I paid £96.75 for my last one, which obviously was a fucking bargain.

[beko1987]

ha!

[DodgyBastard]

Tried seeing if I could tax the 340 but it cant seem to find the details, perhaps the green slip I have isn't the current one... I'm just going to paint it silver and stick the same plates on it as my 360...

[forddeliveryboy]

 

^ from http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/11134732/DVLA-pockets-3.3m-from-drivers-in-tax-disc-changes.html

 

http://tamebay.com/2014/08/dvla-double-car-tax-rip-off-for-drivers.html

 

[garycox]

I'm just going to paint it silver and stick the same plates on it as my 360...

 

I don't see how the new DLVA rules would mean that this sort of thing is suddenly going to increase. Was the massive hassle of swapping the tax disc over the only thing stopping people from doing this previously?

[Jim Bell]

I don't see how the new DLVA rules would mean that this sort of thing is suddenly going to increase. Was the massive hassle of swapping the tax disc over the only thing stopping people from doing this previously?

 

The fact that you would need two tax discs to use two cars at the same made it impossible under the old system, and there was a clear visual immediate check that could be made to verify.

[Pillock]

A clear visual check for a piece of coloured paper, that only your nosey old neighbours would ever actually do.

 

Photocopied tax disc would only be noticed if you were holding it and knew all the anti-forgery marks. Behind glass and a plastic holder, no chance.

[Manbearpig]

Has this petition been featured anywhere else on the site? I did do a search, honest;

 

http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/68471

[Junkman]

1. I just set up a DD online to renew the tax for the RBM and opted for the monthly payments.

The website worked very well and should be understandable for everyone with half a brain.

In fact, the website is better designed and works better, than many websites of the IT industry,

which are usually a Java-laden clusterfuck.

 

2. The upcoming sale of the Mitsubishite to Mr Conelrad will be dated 31-10-2014 on the V5C,

despite he will "borrow" the car before that date, to piss off the highwaymen and robber barons

from the tax office, because I'm an anarchist and shit on them.

[drum]

if I want to tax a car for two or three months, am I best to take the DD option?

[Richard]

I would say no, because it means trusting DVLA with your bank details.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I would say yes, defo

[nigel bickle]

Maybe, possibly, probably.

 

Personally im going to give it a few months to let them iron the inevitable wrinkles out, and see kf they then try to exploit the situation.

 

But if alls well next Spring , then yes, guess so

[matto]

We've had a warning at work telling us not to use the direct debit facility for paying VED.  The DVLA have outsourced all the DD stuff to a private company, so if you pay for VED by DD this company have access to your vehicle details, bank account details and home address!  It's a potential fuck up of the highest order, obviously there have been dodgy people working for the DVLA for years but it just adds another layer that could result in a security breach.

 

So if you work in any kind of sensitive field and park your car in a car park visible from the public highway (or might be recognised while driving it) and don't want the local Mr Big's bigger 'helpers' paying you a 3am visit with interesting gifts, don't use the DD facility.

[dollywobbler]

That all sounds a bit tin-foil-hat to me. I'm sure lots of companies outsource DD processing. I'm yet to have any issues at all with any direct debits ever. I'm hoping to use the new option on my new purchase. We shall see...

[Taff]

well, as the Galaxie is a '59 model, not only is it MoT exempt, it's also rent-free.

 

so, is DD the best option for me?

 

p.s. for sale, tax disc for 1959 Galaxie, one careful owner, will sell for what it cost me

[Junkman]

We've had a warning at work telling us not to use the direct debit facility for paying VED.  The DVLA have outsourced all the DD stuff to a private company, so if you pay for VED by DD this company have access to your vehicle details, bank account details and home address!

 

So has the company in Romania my employer outsourced our payroll to. 

Big deal.

 

Besides, have you ever heard of a thing called the NSA? Or MI5? Or CIA? Or Echelon?

Trust me, they have much more confidential information about you than some bank details or home addresses I can look up online anyway.

Actually, to find out your home address, all I have to do is read the street sign of the street you live in, and read the number of your house,

I don't even need the internet for that. I bet your car with your numberplate on it is parked in the driveway, too, if you don't drive around

with it for all to see and being photographed every 30 odd yards.

[FredTransit]

Sod DD I will be going to the PO like I always did.