ebay 'BARGAINS'

[504GL]

Its a lot of money alright, but those things are quite sought after now. £5k is hopelessly optimistic, i reckon it would get £2000+ on the bay with a decent ad though.

 

Really? Never would have thought they'd be all that sought after. Obviously I'm wrong

[504GL]

Just saw this. you could have this and the Legacy turbo for the price of the MV

 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C210541

 

[Albert Ross]

2000 miles a year. Oil seals weeping through being stood and ripping when the engine started. Splash lubrication in the gearbox and transmission draining back and leaving exposed areas of unpainted metal prone to corrosion through moisture/condensation gathering on these surfaces. (Think BL chod sitting in fields for three years prior to sale) Stale fuel in the tank. Damp bodywork sitting festering in warm garages. Brake disc friction surfaces corroding. Brake friction material sticking into calipers or shoes sticking to the backplates. Tyres going out of shape and cracking through age, dashboards cracking in sunlight due to sitting in one place, interiors fading for the exact same reason, paint fading for exactly the same reason, weather seals perishing for exactly the same reason, grease in wheel bearings hardening off and leaving the bearings prone to going dry and failing..... the list goes on. I'd rather have a car with average or above mileage...... it means it should have been serviced regularly. Sure it may have stonechips and parking dings, but at least it doesn't fall to bits through disuse.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Are you seriously telling us this subaru is 'disadvantaged' over one with 'average mileage', whatever that is (i'll give it the benefit of the doubt and assume that to be 120k). Come off it.

[barrett]

Yeah, that is silly. Why are low mileage classics so highly sought after then?

 

All of this -

. Tyres going out of shape and cracking through age, dashboards cracking in sunlight due to sitting in one place, interiors fading for the exact same reason, paint fading for exactly the same reason, weather seals perishing for exactly the same reason

- is certainly not the case with that car, so what makes you think any of the less visible stuff is? Just because it's not done many miles, doesn't mean it hasn't been looked after properly. TBh I wouldn't be massively surprised if someone paid 5 large for this, it's nowhere near as much of a 'comedy bargain' as most other stuff in this thread.

[stuboy]

bang tidy..

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/260846154487? ... 1423.l2649

[504GL]

Yeah, that is silly. Why are low mileage classics so highly sought after then?

 

All of this -

. Tyres going out of shape and cracking through age, dashboards cracking in sunlight due to sitting in one place, interiors fading for the exact same reason, paint fading for exactly the same reason, weather seals perishing for exactly the same reason

- is certainly not the case with that car, so what makes you think any of the less visible stuff is? Just because it's not done many miles, doesn't mean it hasn't been looked after properly. TBh I wouldn't be massively surprised if someone paid 5 large for this, it's nowhere near as much of a 'comedy bargain' as most other stuff in this thread.

 

Why are low mileage classics so highly sought after then? Well of course there is wear and damage to the interior to be considered I guess and the obvious things like parking dings and so on.

 

I honestly think that mileage is a poor indicator of the condition or "life left" in a car tbh. i knew a girl who had an Octavia which had been a taxi and had 500k miles on it when she got it and when I last chatted to her it had 600k miles on it and was still fine. My 406 was of a similar vintage and had 500k miles less on it and the engine was basically fucked.

 

My understanding was that cars do need to be regularly run to keep everything in tip top shape. Perhaps I've been misled.

[trigger]

My 1984 Escort - 43k Fine, 1988 Escort - 45k Fine, 1975 BMW 1602 - 71k Fine, 1972 Kadett - 71k Fine...

[Albert Ross]

Where I work, I see a lot of cars through 2 busy workshops. I carry out MOT testing on cars that need their first MOT. I see private cars at around 35,000 miles, company operated fleet owned cars at 100,000 miles+++ , and Motability owned cars. The Motability cars are sometimes the scruffiest cars we see, but with the lowest miles. Soem users genuinely only ever go to the local shop 1/2 a mile away, once a week, sometimes a trip to the next town to visit relatives or graveyards, and amass nearly 2,000 miles in the 36 months on lease. I see dislodged CV gaiters, (un-noticed because they do not come in for inspection except for annual servicing every 12 months), I see oil leaks aplenty from crank front and rear seals. (Due to the fact the crank is stationary, gathers condensation on the running surface, and this sticks to the seal. When the car is started, the seal rips a little, allowing oil to seep out.) Again un-noticed due to lack of inspection. Emissions fail regularly too.The MOT also reveals brake imbalance due to the pads sticking in the caliper carriers. Mostly, these cars are the most scratched/dented too. Advice work generally avoided unless they are strongly advised to have it done. (Tyres can only be fitted by Kwik Fit or ATS.)

The heavily used fleet cars are the other end of the scale. Emissions clean, brakes regularly replaced every 20,000 miles, meaning the pad sliders are lubricated, the tyres are replaced at 3mm, suspension and alignment will be regularly checked to prevent the tyre wear... wiper blades too.... nothing is wanted for, except maybe a good wash. Most advice work is carried out.

Privately owned, average mileage cars are the centre of the scale. Pads about worn, but never replaced yet... front tyres on 2.5mm.... rear tyres about 5mm. Wiper blades smear slightly. That kind of thing.Passed with advice. Nothing advised ever gets worked on. It costs beer money.

I would sooner have a higher mileage car, that has been maintained rather than been a damp garage dweller.

[Pete-M]

I would sooner have a higher mileage car, that has been maintained rather than been a damp garage dweller.

 

The cars (mainly Skodas) I deal with often rack up 25,000 miles in six months but they're maintained properly. Because that's a heavy amount of miles they can feel a little baggy in comparison to a new one but they're all maintained meticulously. Only get serviced at around 20k but they will have had tyres, and often brake pads and other consumables before their first dealer service.

 

My Jaguar has done 157k miles, but it has been looked after properly so it doesn't feel like it's done anywhere near that kind of mileage. The rear shocks are a bit tired, but otherwise the thing is spot on because it has been used regularly and maintained properly. I've recently driven an 'immaculate, 60k mile, FSH' XJR that is being advertised for three times the price of mine and it was nowhere near as nice to drive.

 

Problem is, a well maintained and looked after low mileage car is a good buy. A badly maintained low mileage car is a bad idea. How do you tell? With something like my Jag there's a huge whopping great folder full of detailed invoices for parts and work done along with a stamped up service book (with relevant bills) for the first 120k or so. The 60k miler I went to see had the Jaguar service book all nicely stamped but without all the bills.

 

People are always going to choose the car with the lowest number on the clock. Even though at 60k the car is heading for a massive spending spree that the 160k car has already been through... twice.

[ashmicro]

Gotta agree with A-R here. A young lad round here bought a "mint", low mileage 88 Nova a while back. Right enough, it looked brilliant having been garaged since 1995, but:

 

Tyres-fucked

Brakes-seized (leaked too as soon as tried)

Engine-leaking oil at the bottom

Clutch-siezed and needing replaced

Cooling system - full of brown crap, and all the hoses were dozed

 

There was other stuff too, and when the car was dragged home, it leaked like a sieve when he washed it.

 

I have a car that's avaeraged 3600 miles in it's life, but the longest it's ever stood was 3 days IIRC, and it's serviced on the button by time (as that obviously occurs first rather than mileage).

 

Tip top, the MOT tester in June said "Son*, that's like a new car"

 

 

*Nice to called Son at my age!

[Cavcraft]

Bearing in mind my brother is disabled I don't want anyone taking this the wrong way: Do some (not all) Mobility cars get roughly treated because they're 'owned' by the sort of pseudo-disabled, scruffy lard arses who are probably fiddling the social?

[ashmicro]

Bearing in mind that I used to work for the department dealing with Motability here in NI, that much is true. I'd add that the genuinely disabled can be quite hard on cars too: for example my frind Sue has put a fair few marks on her Astra: she has to manouvre her backside from the wheelchait to the car seat, lean out and fold the wheelchair and then drag it across her lap and into the car. Sue is tiny, and can bash the rear bumper putting stuff into the boot too. The strap she has to use to pull the tailgate shut has rubbed a fair bit of the paint off the bumper and tailgate lip, too. Can't be helped.

[504GL]

Bearing in mind my brother is disabled I don't want anyone taking this the wrong way: Do some (not all) Mobility cars get roughly treated because they're 'owned' by the sort of pseudo-disabled, scruffy lard arses who are probably fiddling the social?

 

As well as that I'd imagine that a lot of these cars are going to merely get driven around the local area at very low speed rather than being distances regularly for a commute. To be fair, if you've got genuine issues with getting around by yourself you've probably got better things to do than spend all that time maintaining your car if you're just going to end up getting rid later on.

[Negative Creep]

I dont know if I shoul be saying this as its rather tempting fate, but my 80 miles in 5 years Bluebird has now covered 900 miles without a hitch

[Pete-M]

That bloody Interceptor had only done 16,700 miles when bought. Don't think it had hit 18,000 when sold.

 

Considerably more than £1/mile not including fuel, tax or insurance.

 

I'd have been much happier if the car had been used instead of sitting in a bloody 'motor room' somewhere gathering faults.

[Guest]

Nowt special 1500 Dolomite

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1976-TRIUMPH- ... 0813329249?

good working condition

Classified ad price: £2,950.00

[scooters]

I suspect the wear and tear on mobility cars happens in the same way it does with the wife car. Shirt distance 'rowed urban environment with small kids in the back who needed to be hearded entertained fed etc the last thing on the harassed mothers mind when juggling with a screaming toddler in one arm, car keys In the mouth full trolley swinging around trying to open the door in tje rain and crunch! The trolley scores a scrape a foot long down the car. Or you come back to your car to find someone has left a large amount of red paint now blended into your front bumper. Not to mention the damage that kit like buggies can do to the interior trim when hurled in fury into the boot. My car in contrast has a pampered life...most journeys are over 15 miles and rarely to a carpark and rarely with kinds etc. Although more miles they are mechanically less demanding.

 

A bit like the difference. Between the motorbility aNd the fleet car.

[Alexg]

WOW a Freight Rover Sherpa! These are rare now....

 

 

.... but lets not get carried away huh?

 

Starting bid: £1,800.00

[ashmicro]

 

Fuck. Right. Off.

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

[Pete-M]

Fuck. Right. Off.

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

 

Isn't that the lunatic who's got about 15 of them all 'as new' and flings 'em randomly on ebay every few months?

 

Looks to me like a "Get rich after 20 years" plan that is backfiring regularly. Sorry, but for that money a Bini is a much better idea.

[dollywobbler]

You make it sound like there's only one Mini lunatic. I know several! That's the problem. Quite a few people have actually stashed Minis away thinking they'll become hugely valuable. Not if it's anything post-1970.

[Pete-M]

Loads of nutters did it with MGB LE's as well. How I laughed.

[Guest]

Mini seller also has.........

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=a

£2,950

And

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ogcode=dsp

£2,995

Is that a tart or dummy in the showroom window?

[ashmicro]

Norm, tried to PM you there and the server spat the dummy. I can't be arse to type it all again. 5 years late 60s, Hawker Hunters and English Electric Lightnings.

[Cavcraft]

Damn, beaten to it on the stupidly priced Cavalier and Nova post. Can only imagine that in ten years time we'll still be sat here laughing at the vendor of those cars which will undoubtably be still sat there gently rusting away.

[CreepingJesus]

Have we had this fine specimen of a Bentley yet?

Doesn't look quite right to me somehow. Silly me for being such a cynic, it must be good to be on offer at 13 grand...

[Cavcraft]

Bentley 3 Litre Recreation-al Drugs Special.

[ashmicro]

 

This is the real thing. D- for the O Series powered half-arsed attempt above.

[ProgRocker]

 

Fuck. Right. Off.

 

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

 

Hmmmm the inside of that wheel arch is turning to a worrying shade of orangey brown.