"The Count of Shonky Citro" thanks everyone for your support

[CortinaDave]

Last year I got stopped by the plod in aberdeenshire one eve in my mum's tatty focus I'd borrowed while my shite was off the road.. driving back from the car auctions in inverurie. Completely agree that when driving an older car you are a constant target for plod. When I pass a traffic car I almost always get at least a stern glower.

 

They went over the car with a toothcomb, and demanded my insurance there and then - i was driving on the DOC extension of my policy which i didnt have with me at the time. Plod checked the MID and foiund the insurance for my folks but obviously not me as a named driver, and told me nobody had the DOC extension anymore.. and unless i could prove it, they were lifting the car.

 

Tried ringing my own insurance who were shut so i was stuck - so the plod ordered my car impounded and told me basically I had to walk home. They were quite happy to leave me at the side of the road in the middle of nowhere.

 

Rang my missus to pick me up and had to pay the £300 to get the car out of the pound the next day. Rang the police station and went beserk, but they simply said I'd have to take it up with the fiscal.

 

My insurance refunded the impound fee as they said it should have been listed on the MID that i had DOC cover and lo and behold when the summons arrived i wrote to the fiscal enclosing my insurance cert and it was dropped.

 

Still - ridiculous that they left me waking home and £300 out of pocket until I could get it refunded when i was doing nothing wrong. What was wrong with the old 7 days to produce system??

[Pete-M]

That is a disgraceful way for the plod to behave.

 

I had a similar one about 15 years ago in Wigan. At the time I had an Integrale and was mooching about with my girlfriend on a Saturday night looking for some of my friends who were also mooching around Wigan in similarly daft cars. I'd picked my gf up from the pub as she'd had a few beers and arranged to meet my mates at the train station.

 

When we got there we got out of the car and a Police van arrived seconds later, along with three or four Police cars and a riot van. Two of the cops grabbed my girlfriend, asked her if she'd been drinking - which she obviously had - arrested her on the spot, manhandled her into the back of the van and shot off to Wigan Police Station with sirens going and all the lights flashing.

 

Meanwhile I'm standing at the train station while two or three cops search the Lancia inside and out, Tyres, tax etc all being checked and the most senior cop not allowing me to speak.

 

Eventually I said to him "Not very observant for cops are you?". He proceeded to get very snotty with me and started giving me the riot act. I asked him why Helen had been arrested and he replied "Drink driving". I told him to look more closely at the car and asked him if he'd like to breathalise me as I was the one driving, not Helen. He looked at me like I was something he'd stood in, walked to the car and went the colour of boiled shite when he looked inside and finally realised the Lancia was LHD. I then told him that I wanted an official apology from Greater Manchester Plod first thing in the morning, and any record of Helen's arrest scrubbing from the record.

 

Next morning, Chief Constable of Wigan plod rang and apologized.

 

Unfortunately, every time I went to Wigan in the Integrale after that I was stopped by the Police. On one occasion I asked why I'd been pulled over and the reply was "I was told to stop you, I don't know why" and we had to wait for half an hour for the cop who'd told him to stop me to arrive.

 

I sold the car eventually as it was impossible to drive it in Wigan without being stopped for "routine stop checks". Bloody annoying.

 

Also, Scoots, it's got bugger all to do with driving chod. Cars I see stopped most often in Liverpool tend to be late spec Audis and BMWs as they're the drug dealers weapon of choice in these parts.

[M'coli]

What was wrong with the old 7 days to produce system??

 

I think you may have answered that earlier in your post:

Rang my missus to pick me up and had to pay the £300 to get the car out of the pound the next day.

They couldn't legally screw you for that £300, that's what's wrong with it. That'll be modern police budgets for you.

 

Also

I am left wing in most issues but due to the lack of ability of the police to protect our streets I am very right wing on crime and punishment.

It's a shame that the current government see fit to be not very right wing about this though, although I would imagine that they probably have commisioned a think-tank to evaluate whether the private sector could do it more profitably.

[CortinaDave]

The old story is that catching burglars is hard, whereas motorists are easy pickings, will pay the fines and make the stats look good.

 

You constantly hear plod on the radio talking about their latest crackdown on speeding etc... I've NEVER heard them say they're carrying out a crackdown on burglars.

[Tonka]

4 years ago on the M56 heading for Runcorn I was stopped for no insurance in my 2003 Civic Coupe which I had owned for over a year and transfered my plate onto 6 months before, I was given the I don't care if it's worth £6K by a stroppy WPC who said in 10 days it would be crushed.

 

I pointed out that as it was Boxing day it was impossible for either me or her to contact my insurer to confirm or deny the "allegation" I then proceeded to give her the reg'n of my other Honda which was with the same company which came up as insured along with the old reg'n of the Civic which was showing on the database as insured at this point she started to issue a producer claiming that Cheshire Constabulary update their ANPR daily and IT WAS CORRECT, I replied by giving her the 2 Jago reg. numbers to check along with the comment " why would I insure all the others and not the one I am using?"

 

By now we were late picking up my cousin who we were meeting to take out for lunch as we had buried his Mother 2 weeks before and he needed a bit of company over the holiday, on telling her this she then gave me directions of a short cut to where he lived and sent me on my way!

 

Back home that night I went straight to the local Police Station, was followed in by a T5 which ignored me and the desk sergeant told me ANPR was a waste of time and then ran my reg'n through to be told it was insured as far as South Yorkshire Police were concerned!

[John F]

Driving an older car doesn't necessarily make you more of a target for plod though.

 

I've only been stopped once in the five years I've owned my Calibra, and that was because I'd got the wrong month for my MoT in my head & let it lapse by a few weeks. They didn't even check over the car, it was clearly being looked after.

 

Sorry to hear about your problems with plod though, scooters. There are good 'uns and bad 'uns.

[Father Ted]

I am not one who believes in nepotism and there is nothing worse than a clype

I had to Google this as I thought that was a type of ice cream.

 

Utter bumflaps with regards the Plod. Not much more I can say really.

[Largactil]

Scary stuff, Mr Scooters...

 

Running the peasant Pug around central London, plod has been decidedly disinterested to date - Plenty of other things to keep them busy around here, rather than random notions of "let's pull over an old banger and go over it with a fine toothcomb, coz we're a bit bored".

 

But when I drove it up to Scotland, and was blezing back from a mate's pad around midnight, I became aware of a set of headlights catching me very quickly... I knew right away it was either a boy racer / plod.

 

Having had a chance to put the boot down / drive his Transit Connect Panda car on its door handles, he proceeded to tailgate me all the way through the next village (no doubt 'Asking MID'), and despite being 100% legaI, I was anticipating a tug any second. As it was, I reached my turn off and he rocketed on by - No doubt off to find someone else to give the same treatment to.

 

Would I have had the same treatment in my modern? Probably...

 

Would I be more likely to be on the receiving end of such actions in a rural location, as opposed to a big city? Definitely...

[dollywobbler]

Mustard mitt, I've never been given a tug - old heap or not - apart from once when I was doing 50mph in a 30 zone in a Dyane. I think that tug was more about the speed to be honest! The nice WPC let me off as I told her I was late for work. Mind you, I don't very often see Police cars, let alone get stopped by one.

[Father Ted]

I remember going to work at Blackpool Vic one new years day morning and being followed by a patrol car, so I decided to have some fun (being 100% legal and 100% alcohol free) and took him to Blackpool Vic from Preston via Weeton, Elswick, Staining and Poulton Le Fylde - some lovely national speed limit twisty country lanes.

 

When I arrived at the Vic he pulled over and asked me where the hell I thought I was going.

[gallondrunk]

Some awful stories here. Seems to me some coppers are just both fucking ignorant and tripping hard on their own authority.

 

My own story isn't severe, but shows what lying, rude cocks they can be.

 

My girlfriend and I once got pulled by the Chief Constable, no less, of WM police. My gf was driving, we were pulling left out of a small, fast island, and there was a black new mazda 6 opposite going into the island opposite, not indicating, so we pulled out. All of a sudden it was right up our arse, driver gesturing furiously. He must have steamed around it. We were going to the post office a couple of hundred yard, and he followed us right into the car park. I got out and I saw that it was a copper in uniform. Shit. My girlfriend gets out and he storms up.

"Can I see your driving licence?"

"Whats the problem?"

"You were driving dangerously on that island. I'm running your car through the computer. I could arrest you for driving dangerously" he says to my gf.

I go to say something, he puts his hand right in my face.

"I'm not talking to you sir"

I look at the car and realise there's no-one else in it, just him. I also check the name badge for the first time.

"You do realise.." I start, (I was about to question being able to arrest someone for dangerous driving on the basis of one person's assertion without someone else in the car to vouch for it)

"I'm not speaking to you be quiet," hand in face again.

Anyway, this goes on for a bit.

"I'm going to inspect the vehicle." He declares, and goes around, obviously getting annoyed that the car is perfectly sound.

"This tyre needs changing," pointing to the front right, which is very lightly cracked on the sidewall, but otherwise fine. It passed an MOT two weeks later with it, in fact.

"It's not safe to change a tyre on a steep incline," I point out. And this was a serious incline too.

"I don't care."

Then he hands my girlfriend back her licence and walks away, back in his car, and off. That was 5 years ago and I still get annoyed thinking about it. What a lying, unethical, power tripping little wankstain. He was blatantly off duty, in his own car, and had been held up by us and was determined to demonstrate his authority at all costs.

 

I realise now I should have kicked up a lunatic stink and demanded an apology in writng, but what's the point?

[dollywobbler]

^^^ West Midlands? I've had EXACTLY the same thing happen in Acocks Green. In my case, it was the passenger of the car I'd 'cut up' who leaped out (not in uniform) flashed a badge at me and had a right rant. This after a 'chase' of about two miles! I'd forgotten all about that. Told me I was going to be in a whole heap of trouble and that everyone would be looking out for me. I've a feeling that was also in my green Dyane...

 

Needless to say, never heard anything after. For balance, my dealings with the Police have always been pleasant.

[6ettinold]

I'm a newbie- I'm struck by the support from all the Shitters for Scooters plight.

 

I'd agree with what has been said regarding the press and local telly. Certainly Watchdog and Anne Robionson in particular have an ongoing battle with the arses in Swansea - an email via. their website wouldn't do any harm???

 

 

 

I live on one of Nottingham's leafier council estates. I see drug-dealing in broad daylight, knuckledaggers on monkey bikes / pit bikes and scramblers riding on pavements and on the main ride without helmets. I can take a fair guess at who's cultivating herbs in their houses / flats...I could go on.

 

I can be working on the car on the road ( i have no driveway ). The police will drive by at 10mph, stare me out ( I'm 42, skinny with specs - I'm not some tattoo-ed thug ) and pull up a few 100 yards up the road. I know what they're doing. We all do. This has happened 3 times now in 4 weeks - always when the estate is quiet and the scum are still in their pits. Im now pretty good at clocking unmarked Volvo's and Audi's - but its possible these have done the same on other occasions.

 

Point is - I'm one of the previously mentioned easy targets. Based on what I read her and having read Scooters tale - despite being law abiding and assuming all my 'stuff' is in order, its only a matter of time before I get a tug. Contrary to all the advice given in my youth, I'm gonna keep copies of my docs in the glovebox.

 

 

BTW - We've had various Shite - including a lovely W123 Merc - all parked on the road. The only car to have been damaged was last year and was our only modern -a 6yr old Mondeo. Large key scratch. Didn't bother the rozzers but after a few weeks rang the insurers just to see what the procedure would be IF I was to claim. They needed a crime no so I rang the local bobbies. I got a real ticking off as I hadn't reported it sooner. Had a visit from a PCSO to give me some patronising advice, calling me a 'customer' ( !!! ) and to ask if I had any other issues regarding crime, anti-social behaviour, etc!!?... Did ask him if they were with issued rose-tinted bins......

 

An old colleague had a brother in the Met - his brother used to run Shite as his own wheels. No tax, MoT, etc. His brother said they all did it as it would 'never be a problem' idf they got pulled.

[nigel bickle]

Scoots. Rich mate, I feel your pain. I've had similar a few times -even something a little similar TODAY

 

I' just back from a 400 mile round trip jaunt to Nottingham in our spare old Fiat Coupe. All legal -but 2 weeks ago I swopped the number plates on it -N838 AMT became N13 CKL ( N BICKLE- geddit?). New tax disc, new MOT, new V5c, -details swopped with the Insurer etc.

 

Call me a distrusting bastard (YOU'RE A DISTRUSTING BASTARD!!) but I took a spare photocopy of my Ins doc & a printout of the emailed confirmation of change with me, today.

 

5 am, near Luton -I get flagged down by plod on the M1, & required to sit in the rear of the jam sandwich.

 

You can guess the conversation:-

 

''Its uninsured''.... I point out that his screen is clearly also showing 'Cherished Transfer' - but that wasnt ''good enough''.

Traders Policy -I retorted, with the details. Too early to check he said..

Here's a copy, says I. Cant accept photocopies says he.

There's a copy email conf in the glove box -if your mate (Vigorously inspecting the car) could look. Only that seemed to satisfy them.

 

I was clearly guilty -until proved innocent -they just needed to determine what. Happily, at that point they lost interest, booted me out & sped off with nary a ''sorry, thank you'' etc

 

Me. I kinda expected it -and have no faith in our ''Authorities''. Lets hope the pendulum swings back to Benefit of the Doubt, soon.

 

Got nowt to do with old cars Rich -its society itself. Horrid.

[e287yba]

... Greater Manchester Plod ...

 

Ah, my local farce, sorry force. Who stopped a car flagged up on their ANPR as uninsured in Bolton, seized it and had it crushed with indecent haste before the disbled driver could get to the local sty to show his documents. Several years ago now, mind.

 

The same force who used a little add-on to their ANPR to flag up cars that had unpaid Private Parking Tickets (from 'firms' like NCP, Parking Eye etc) registered against them, and did a ittle 'enforcing' for a cut of the payment. Illegally, of course, and quite unethically. A few years ago, this stunt was.

 

I keep trying to get stopped in the MG while the MIL is in the passenger seat, as she is usually intoxicated... The MG is left hand drive .

 

GMP are utterly inept in a few ways. Anyone want to mention their firearms training??? No, that would be off topic, but it isn't fit for purpose and they are being prosecuted by HSE because of an unlawful killing of a trainee during a session a couple of years ago . Then there was a leaked photograph of 3 of them during firearms training - in the press recently - clambering over a Land Rover with one of them pointing their gun up another officer's jacksee .

 

i was stopped by GMP once; can't complain, I had been driving without lights at midnight on a Saturday. The only issue was the drunken clown in the back of the Mini asking the policeman if his head went to the top of his *hic* helmet . I think the copper felt sorry for me when I said I'd been on the Barbican all night; he didn't breathalyse me, anyway!

 

That was my second interaction with GMP. My first, in 1987, ended up with the copper perjuring himself in front of the local beaks when I was pleading Not Guilty to "aiding and abetting riding without insurance"; his account was utterly implausible - he pulled up behind two people on my moped while he was travelling in the other direction, and the rider of that moped was crashing up and down the kerb on the main road south out of Bury! Verdict? Not Guilty, I thangyoo!!! Regardless, this particularly imaginative copper was found to be talking utter nonsense in court on more than one occasion, which often appeared in the local press with him named .

 

This coloured my view of the police for a lifetime, unfortunately. On an imaginary list of good vs bad interations with them, as an innocent victim of crime, the debits far outweight the credits .

 

I'm therefore not a fan, especially when abuses are going on.

[scooters]

I have had several other anpr stories from others today. The anecdotal evidence seems outrageous and disconcertingly common. I am very tempted to compile them and write to jack straw who in between visits to his barrister has a bee in his bonnet about this sort of thing. Maybe he can lump it in with his criticism of the police

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

I am sorry to hear of this ordeal, Scooters.

 

The police behaved disgracefully and inappropriately but the problem you faced is manifold and far deeper.

Give them Hell; such a serious systemic failure is utterly unacceptable and it is your civil duty to ensure it is recognised and acted upon!!

[maxpower]

we had the same crap from the met police... youngest son arrested for having his mate's oyster card (i'm serious) so they let us know about 1am and we drive to local nick, sit there for 2 hrs before going into custody suite to see sgt no-brain.. while waiting on him finishing flirting with the female solicitor who was representing some other criminal.. mrs maxpower is losing it big time.. i stand back and let the sparks fly

she tells the sgt "you take your time as we have all night to stand here" he starts swearing at her saying he can be a right cunt if he wants and to watch her lip

so she turns and says " fuck you, keep him" (our son) and starts to walk to the door he realises all his behavour is captured on the cctv and recorded

so we get out to the front desk and he wants me to go with him to collect the boy.. so i said " wait a minute, at first you didn't want to talk to me now that you are in the shit i am good enough to be spoken to?.. sod off, so mrs max tells desk sgt to call his gaffer and this copper (mouthy) gets his mobile out and calls him 1st

trying to cover his ass, but he didn't bank on the cctv... so eventually someone else comes and releases our boy and we put a complaint in.. we had a few visits from a female chief constable (his boss) who had seen the cctv and apoligised profusely.. and the sgt was sent on an anger management/retraining course and taken off custody duties rather than us taking him to court.

[SambaS]

Winner, well, kindof

we had the same crap from the met police... youngest son arrested for having his mate's oyster card (i'm serious) so they let us know about 1am and we drive to local nick, sit there for 2 hrs before going into custody suite to see sgt no-brain.. while waiting on him finishing flirting with the female solicitor who was representing some other criminal.. mrs maxpower is losing it big time.. i stand back and let the sparks fly

she tells the sgt "you take your time as we have all night to stand here" he starts swearing at her saying he can be a right cunt if he wants and to watch her lip

so she turns and says " fuck you, keep him" (our son) and starts to walk to the door he realises all his behavour is captured on the cctv and recoreded

so we get out to the front desk and he wants me to go with him to collect the boy.. so i said " wait a minute, at first you didn't want to talk to me now that you are in the shit i am good enough to be spoken to?.. sod off, so mrs max tells desk sgt to call his gaffer and this copper (mouthy) gets his mobile out and calls him 1st

trying to cover his ass, but he didn't bank on the cctv... so eventually someone else comes and releases our boy and we put a complaint in.. we had a few visits from a female chief constable (his boss) who had seen the cctv and apoligised profusely.. and the sgt was sent on an anger management/retraining course and taken off custody duties rather than us taking him to court.

[cort16]

Sounds like they gave the BX a tug because it's old and it was late and when your name came up with the warrant against it they took it upon themselves come knocking.

I think the problem is the police have to deal with mouth breathers all the time and maybe forget there's normal decent people like yourself out there. The shocking bit is they dragged you off. I mean you're hardly likely to flee to Somalia to get out of two minor car tax violations.

 

Anyway scooters you can't give up being a shitter. Think of all the jobs that would be lost in UK's alternator factorys!

[Albert Ross]

Kick up a stink mate. Take the little cocknocker up all the way to the beak. Watch him do Road Safety speeches at Schools.

 

In 1985, I had a Mk2 Cortina, not a bad example, but okd nevertheless. I got stopped and breathalysed, and was clear. They let me go. A week later, just driving along, the same 2 Coppers, same trick, let me go. Well a little while after that, I was parked in an entrance to a group of School buildings, and the same 2 coppers turned up. I was in fact over the limit at this time. I was rightfully arrested, and they left my car there. Well I was living in my Parents' house, and I told them in no uncertain terms, not to ring home.... due to my Parents being hard working people. Well at 03:45 the Parents turned up to get me out of the cell. My Dad asked to see my statement, and read the part about not disturbing them. So he asked to speak to the Chief Constable of Berkshire. He was told "We can't allow you to talk to him Sir, He's off duty, at home, asleep" Well my Dad stretched himself up to his full 6'7" and bellowed " I WAS IN FUCKING BED, ASLEEP, YOU LITTLE CUNT, AND YOU WERE TOLD NOT TO DISTURB ME. NOW GET HIM HERE WITHIN 30 MINUTES OR I WILL PERSONALLY SEE TO IT THAT YOU PICK UP DOGSHIT FOR THE REST OF YOUR POLICE CAREER!!" The Chief Constable arrived promptly, with back up..... offered his sincere apologies, and let us go. The Police NEVER bothered me again in that car. This was Windsor Road in Slough, you know, where Bazza, Gazza, and Dazza do their filming for Road Wars.

 

I miss my old man.

 

On a high note, after having the house burgled a fortnight ago, we still haven't heard anything from the Police. Perhaps we aren't valued customers...

[Craig the Princess]

Kick up a stink mate. Take the little cocknocker up all the way to the beak. Watch him do Road Safety speeches at Schools.

 

This, the Police have a cunt of a job, but acting like total bell-ends that only makes it harder. A punishment for the officers involved (be it shite duties or a repromand) might make them think next time it could wait to a reasonable hour.

 

That said my dealing with the Police have been ok, only ever stopped once after going through the London ring of Steel 4 times in 5 minutes (I was very lost) and they helped me find the road. The two coppers that dealt with my brother's car crash were really helpful to.

[meggersdog]

Scooters that was terrible.You should report the arresting officer.

Although not in the same league this is what happened to me.

A few years ago I was having serious problems with a family of pikeys living across the road.One evening when I returned from walking the dog I came home to all the downstairs windows being smashed.It had already been reported but I phoned the law as soon as I got in.Pc. Philips and a wpc whose name I didn't catch turned up and were all "well if you didn't see anything.what can we do ?".(it was Mrs pikey who did it)Now because it was ongoing and the pikeys were in a housing association house the housing people had installed a camera on the side of my house.When I mentioned the camera the mood changed but when I said the machine is locked (only the camera people can view it) pc Philips got arsey again.The coppers went to see Mr pikey but ofcourse Mrs pikey was nowhere to be seen.

Ten minutes after the coppers left Mrs pikey comes round my house so I'm straight on the phone to the law.She barges into the house grabs the phone while I am still talking to the coppers and slings it on the floor.Mrs pikey was all "nobody will say I did it because they are scared" When I told her it was on camera she punched me in the face.Just as she left pc Philips turns up and instead of getting a statement he proceeds to berate me for leaving the door unlocked.Yeah I suppose instead of boarding up a fucking great hole in the kitchen window I should lock the door first.I was smart enough to note down the copper's number.

The next day I informed the housing association of what happened and the copper's reaction to being called out again.They told me to report him and to inform my local councillor.Within the hour the chief inspector phoned me to apologize and within minutes of that conversation there were five coppers round my house making sure I was ok and the house was secure.Then they took statements of both incidents and also a statement about pc Philips behaviour.

[vulgalour]

Some people get into the police force for the right reasons, they do a good job, we never notice them and never praise them, which is unfair.

 

Some people get into the police force for the wrong reasons, beyond all logic they get into positions of power which they then abuse. We hear a lot about them and they tarnish the underfunded and poorly supported policing network with a bad smell, which is also unfair.

 

I don't like it when the people who are supposed to protect us don't and I really hope you can get a positive resolution from all this, Scooters, it sounds like you've had a really bad time of it. Of all my dealings with the police the only negative was when in the Polo I was told the P plate in my front windscreen was obstructing front vision (which it wasn't) when the officer couldn't find anything else wrong with my modified car. I'm not an easy target, I always keep my documents with me whichever car I'm driving just in case. It's hassle, but it's my charm against the few dicks in the police force.

 

I hope you get a decent resolution to this problem and that you don't abandon shitery because of it.

[Lankytim]

The wife and I got pulled on the M6 in a wedge Rover 214 we'd been given a week before. "There's no insurance showing on this car" said the rozzer. We explained that it had only just been insured and although the copper was adamant that ANPR was always correct he let us on our way with a producer . I guess it depends who you get pulled by. If its a cop with a brain and some common sense you will be OK. If it's OMG PC RULEBOOK who has recently caught his wife in bed with a Talbot Tagora owner (unlikely, I know) then you could be in for a rough ride.

 

Apparently the rozzers are advised to only seize cars if the driver admits to having no insurance, otherwise its a producer, but obviously you get overzealous officers or young ones keen to fill their notebook with arrests and car seizures.

 

Its worth bearing in mind that uninsured drivers are a mega problem in some parts of the country, in some parts of Birmingham 1 in 3 are uninsured.No insurance can often also mean that the car is driven by someone who the police would like to speak to for other reasons, no licence, warrant out for their arrest, skipped bail e.t.c. or that the car is unroadworthy for some reason. They all seem to go together, that why the rozzers are so keen to catch up with uninsured motorists. I can totally understand why the police want to speak to drivers who ping up on the ANPR system, the problem is the odd "bad cop" who either doesn't understand the system and laws correctly, or is just a total knobhead.

[ruffgeezer]

From my experience of the police and Scooter's account it was possibly more this:

 

• [*:ihgn56tn]Their database (incorrectly) shows the bx as having no insurance
  [*:ihgn56tn]Scooter's pal possibly mentions that the car isn't his but he is using it, but can't prove/remember who it was insured with (they usually call the insurer on the roadside)
  [*:ihgn56tn]They go to Scooter's to prove the car is insured and that P has the rights to be driving it (normally after not being able to prove it is insured, they'd just have the car recovered to the impound)
  [*:ihgn56tn]Being eager, possibly inexperienced coppers, they lift Scooter for his (incorrect) outstanding warrant, terrible timing but they will have been told to do it.

 

At the end of the day, the tug was unfortunate, but these days it is necessary as a lot of people don't bother insuring their cars, the buck should stop with the cunt...sorry clerk of the court who failed to lodge the appeal on Scooter's behalf.

 

It is truly the shit end of the stick mate, I feel for you, but don't give up on shite!

[Lufthansa-Terminal]

[SambaS]

While we're on the subject... Last year my Samba was pushed off it's axle stands. They had trouble doing this as I'd made it so solid, also had 4 tyres under as back up. Well my rear quarter had a footprint and a big dent and the floor was damaged. I knew who's flat the person responsible was at too. When I reported the damage to the Police he said a comment about not being arsed to write it up, what was I hoping to achieve and then on finding out it was SORN said he was reporting me for summons for keeping it in a pubic place. (My landlord is okay with it being there.) Well I didn't know whether to laugh, cry or scream, but what can you do when it is the Police. I said well if I don't report the damage will you not report me, I thought that was his game. As soon as I offered the 'bribe' if you like he changed his tune, i think from the despair in my eyes: 'look well I'm (the Police man) not a cunt, I can see now you mention it, that it does look like it's been kicked'. I cant describe how he made me feel that day. I'm always respectful of the job they do

[Burnside]

Don't give up Scooters on old cars just because of these idiots. I can't offer much advice on how to deal with the matter but hope you can get a satisfactory end to it.

There alot of good advice on here an as many people have said already there are good an bad police officers as you know out there.

Unfortantly you have met some of the latter but from my experince of bad police officers i wouldn't bother with taking it up with the police station responsable for this happing.

As they will happly fob you off. I'd say take it to the media etc an then the embarresement caused may hopefully make them think and look into making changes to prevent it happing again. I hope you and your family don't let this matter get you down an that you can get on with things. All the best with it.

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I don't think it's the shite cars that's the problem, Scooters, it could have been any car, even a 60 plate Merc etc, i just think it was bad luck, carting you off to the nick at 3 in the morning is a proper piss take though, I'd send a letter of to these guys myself http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/en/Pages/your_complaint_.aspx.

 

I had to send one to them after my pile up in 2010 when they took 45 minutes to come out to us on the M11, They were pretty quick getting back to me with a apology.