Rover 75 Progress-water pump troubles.

[Stevebrookman]

Picked this up today to give my Sierra a rest. 2.0 diesel auto-Connoisseur SE.

155,000 miles-done very little over the last few years.

Bloke I bought it off had it for 18 years.

6 weeks MOT left.

Drives well- a few niggles to sort out-exhaust vibrating, headlining drooping , needs a good clean and takes a while to start when hot.

Still it only cost £400

 

 

[Soundwave]

Top shiting! Bargain price too.

[grogee]

Never mind that. Which train stations did you go through and what did you have for breakfast? 

(good luck with it though, looks nice) 

[NorthernMonkey]

That is a very tidy looking old thing.

Well bought…definitely well worth it!

[Matty]

400 quid. Literally can't go wrong at that money. Brilliant!

[Mally]

I gave £900 for mine. Same colour ish.

Hope the MOT goes well. Guess drop links and maybe back of sills. Sometimes they sail through.

[SEATMad]

What a bargain! great buy! 

[2flags]

That's great value! Well bought!

[KruJoe]

19 hours ago, grogee said:

Never mind that. Which train stations did you go through and what did you have for breakfast? ...

And most importantly: Poo count.

[Stevebrookman]

Thanks all-sorry for the late relies-but since the update I cant use my old ipad to post or look at photos!!

No poo count or breakfast unfortunately-picked car up at 11am - only 13 miles away- using the old trusty sierra.

Friend down the buses who pointed me towards this has three of them-he thinks the hot starting after leaving it a few mins is a dodgy injector-he had it with one of his years ago-but can buy good used ones for 20 odd quid and it's plug and play so will have a look.

First diesel car I've had and even though  its only 115bhp it wafts along quite well- 5 speed auto.

Will clean leather this week and passenger window needs a bit of silicon spray.

Tyres are Uniroyal and some other good make and seem like new-exhaust still has Klarius stickers on and looks fairly new (I say new but car has done minimal mileage over the last few years).

Will tax it today (£390!!) but with man maths the tax and insurance are 3.5 pints of San Miguel a week (I've cut down my drinking to 5 pins every weds where I would also drink one or two bottles every night-gall bladder issues!!).

Will have a fiddle this week with exhaust rattling and put it in for MOT in a couple of weeks. It's worth a bit more than £400 in parts.

 

 

[bezzabsa]

my combo had hot start issues, turned out to be diesel pump, chuck some water over it wait 30 seconds and if it starts bobs ya granny

[stuboy]

looks nice

[Stevebrookman]

A few jobs done on the old Rover.

Lights were polished up.

Had a diesel leak from the secondary pump- a few drips -looks like original clip had lost tension.

Thermostat seemed to be stuck open -so did the Renault 5 mod.

Surface rust on rear suspension components rubbed down, rustkilled and primed today ready for paint.

Next job -hand brake adjustment -which could be a pain.

MOT runs out in just over three weeks so will book it in next week.

Bowls along at 70ish very, very nicely.

 

[RoverFolkUs]

7 minutes ago, Stevebrookman said:

Next job -hand brake adjustment -which could be a pain.

^ see above for Rover 75 handbrake troubles

 

[Stevebrookman]

Thanks Roverfolk- will give it a go this week!!

[Stevebrookman]

MOT time yesterday-failed-on the bloody handbrake!

Took on @RoverFolkUs advice and looked through the hole at the pivot shoe and it looked new-along with the springs-so didn't take the hub off. Adjusted up the shoes (should have rechecked after a while) and the adjustment at the handbrake . Still a bit of adjustment on the handbrake and rear shoes I think.

Garage is going to do it next Monday -I could have a fiddle but away for 4 days and easier if its with the garage that mot'd it.

MOT guy said its a very good car-no advisories.

Also it seems that Allan the previous owner had all advisories mentioned in the MOT's fixed-I checked with him and he confirmed this. Last years were pitted rear discs-there are new discs on the back and it looks like new handbrake springs etc.

So hopefully should be MOT'd next week. 

[wuvvum]

You've done bloody well there.

[Stevebrookman]

2 hours ago, wuvvum said:

You've done bloody well there.

Looks like!

[Stevebrookman]

Rover going very well at the moment. 

Have done more miles in the last couple of months than it's done in the last 5 years.

Thanks to advice from Wuvvum I plan to give the auto box a partial oil change. it's very smooth-but not sure when it was last changed.

Oil was changed a thousand miles ago-but that was over 5 years ago-so will give that a change.

Underside is now surface rust free-vactanned, shutzed and Buzzweld lanolined. Very, very little corrosion. Also sprayed sills and suspension arms full of wax.

 

[Split_Pin]

Mind and only use Jatco fluid, anything else will kill the box.

[HMC]

How do these compare rustwise, on average? They on the whole seem quite robust old things.

[Split_Pin]

They are made of thick metal and don't rust badly at all.

Places to watch are the jacking points, backs go first and then the fronts and the rear upper suspension arms. They're mild steel and have a spring cup which holds water with predictable results.

However they are now all old cars and some cases of the rear chassis rails corroding are starting but it's usually just surface.

Rear arches can go as well but it takes a long time. Front arches can rot at the bottom trailing edge where it meets the sill.

Also, weirdly, the offside and nearside bonnet leading edge can rust and it usually only does it at one side. 

Being a London car, yours looks solid.

[Stevebrookman]

Was going to order some Jatco fluid-thanks to @wuvvum -but messaged Allan the previous owner to see how he was and to keep him informed of progress (lovely bloke who owned the car for 18 years).

He said that the gearbox oil was changed at least three times - the last time about 5 years ago which is less than 1000 miles-so will leave it for now.

A bit of luck there!

[Split_Pin]

I think its about 7 years 60k miles anyway.

[Stevebrookman]

Out and about today after clocking nearly 1000 miles and the water pump bearings decided to give up the ghost. Got it to 1/2 mile from house before the pulley threw the belt. Got it home in a series of a couple of 100 yards at a time letting it cool down for a while in between. Checked oil and water when i got it under car port-all seemed ok. Steering a bit heavy when trying a 90 degree back and forth into car port.

Access looks very good (not!!!) - so will keep me occupied for a while. Lucky I'm retired.

 

[wuvvum]

Aux belt access is an utter twat on diesel 75s.  You need either a special tool or a modified spanner to get to the tensioner.

[Split_Pin]

Unlucky on the water pump, diesel items are normally very long lasting.

Not something I'd attempt myself so good on you.

(27mm modified spanner or home made bar needed)

[Stevebrookman]

9 hours ago, wuvvum said:

Aux belt access is an utter twat on diesel 75s.  You need either a special tool or a modified spanner to get to the tensioner.

 

9 hours ago, Split_Pin said:

Unlucky on the water pump, diesel items are normally very long lasting.

Not something I'd attempt myself so good on you.

(27mm modified spanner or home made bar needed)

Thanks both.

Belt access is "slightly" better with the top engine mountings removed. Read a few posts on the 75 Forum and "book hours" are 3.5.  Most say its more likely 8. 

I'll get a spanner and modify it for the tensioner.

Can't be worse than changing the camshaft in my old Senator-famous last words!

[Stevebrookman]

Had about three hours on this today.  Front wheel off, then the drivers side engine mountings removed so access is "slightly" better. Also need to move engine up and down to access the bolts.

First three bolts straightforward, but could not access the 4th -must have moved engine up and down dozens of times.

After an hour I measured up and drilled an access hole through the chassis so I could put my star T30 straight through onto the bolt.

Waiting for a new pump to arrive along with a set of the pipe clippy pliers to get the hose off.

 

[Stevebrookman]

Pump out, took a while, tried putting new one back in with thermostat housing attached-would not go. will put thermostat housing on when pump attached. pump resting in there now until i get some blue hylomar. pig of a job.