Watch me make a stupid mistake - Peugeot 504 Break L

[TataBobu]

"Like a 5008, older, with more panache"

[Rightnider]

Excellent!

[junkyarddog]

Please tell me its a Diesel!

[meowmeow]

15 minutes ago, junkyarddog said:

Please tell me its a Diesel!

That would be nice, but it’s the base model 1.8 petrol.

Don’t worry it’ll probably be just as loud as a diesel seeing as it has the fixed cooling fan rather than viscous clutch

[Dobloseven]

Wow! Had a T reg Family Estate back in the late eighties early nineties. Positively decadent compared to that. 2 litres, ZF auto, cloth seats, aftermarket electric sunroof and rear wiper.Needed a lot of bodywork even then.Plenty in breakers back in the day. Changed the doors, wings, sills,arches etc. Even welded a rust hole in the roof under the aftermarket vinyl roof. Wonderfully smooth ride. Remember my sister in law getting married. I drove round to her house in it and then went to the church in a Silver Shadow, I was giving her away. The Peugeot had a smoother ride. 

[High Jetter]

2 hours ago, Datsuncog said:

Ooooft.

Wow.

YES!

That's an absolute winnermobile, right there.

Not many 504 estates around these days... fingers crossed indeed, that the logistics all pull together and this arrives safely over with you. Delivery included! Awesome.

All this reminds me, I really should arrange a visit to MrsDC's uncle in Leitrim and see if he fancies thinning out his barn these days...

Did B&C visit there to extract something? Looks a tad familiar.

[Spiny Norman]

I remember my Dad almost being swayed by a 504 back in the day but they were a bit dearer than the Renault 16 he ended up with. It's easy to forget now that Peugeot used to be a quality car, and the 504 in many ways was almost a French Mercedes.

Looking forward to seeing this one get its mojo back. 😛

[Datsuncog]

14 hours ago, High Jetter said:

Did B&C visit there to extract something? Looks a tad familiar.

I've posted the pic before, so maybe just stirring a memory? Quite a lot of shite around that farm, including a Mk2 Fiesta van still being used for general farm duties.

Oh yeah, he's also got this locally built lash-up - but sure no-one would be interested in something like that... 😉

[mk2_craig]

13 minutes ago, Datsuncog said:

no-one would be interested in something like that

Nope. Looking forward to pictures of that mk2 fiesta van though  

[Datsuncog]

On 16/08/2023 at 11:41, mk2_craig said:

Looking forward to pictures of that mk2 fiesta van though  

It's a honey.

Surprisingly rot-free, given that it hasn't exactly been cossetted!

Amazing the stuff still out there on Irish farms - as this thread most wonderfully demonstrates.

Anyway, enough thread-hijacking from me - back to Peugeots...

[bunglebus]

Bloody hell DC, you've been holding back on us! Think you need to acquire one of those vehicles and press it back into daily use

[Twiggy]

What an amazing thread !

[bezzabsa]

*no words*

[meowmeow]

On 15/08/2023 at 19:06, meowmeow said:

Seller says give him 2 weeks and he’ll have the front back together and send me a video of it running...  Fingers crossed?

Ok ok I was a bit off the mark here but...

More to follow

[meowmeow]

Arrived safely on wednesday, after being stuck in the sea for a while because the ferry couldn't dock

Good news is the handbrake still works, which is quite lucky considering everywhere around me is hills

Went to pay the man, got barraged with questions from the fraud squad for about 25mins:

- where did you meet the seller?

- how comes you have the car if you haven't paid for it? - the lady asked me this question 3 times in an increasingly more confused tone.

- why did it take 6 months for the car to be delivered?
"sorry the parts for it had to be taken off 40 other cars and shoved in the boot first, which took a while"

- how did you receive the payment details?

- who's your internet service provider?

- have you had a test drive in the car?
"err... yes?" (does rolling it off the trailer count?)

- where's the log book?
"in the post..."

- where did you buy the car from?
Decided it was best I didn't tell them it was being imported from ROI and squeaked through customs, otherwise the interrogation would've probably lasted a lot longer.

Despite all this, not once was I asked why the account I was paying into was in the guy's sister's name and not his....

Anyway tilt and slide is coming today to somehow get it up the drive and into the garage which it's very likely too long for. Wish me luck I guess...

[Dick Cheeseburger]

On 15/08/2023 at 19:06, meowmeow said:

Ok reveal time, I hope this was worth the wait...

i arrived at the guys house, and could not believe my eyes. My shit photos really don’t do it justice:

Probably 20+ Peugeot 504s, another 10 or so 604s, several 404s and an Irish built RHD 403. Most of the cars are original RHD UK spec. Utter madness.

But what have I (provisionally) bought?

A Peugeot 504 Break L (in true base model fashion)

Nitty-gritty:

Sale is provisional so long as he gets the engine turning (of course it was a bit seized, but apparently was turning last year)

Price includes a front end, replacement boot lid etc...

Delivery is also included, so sorry no stupid escapades (and given the condition I fucking doubt I’d be driving it anywhere, my feet would go through the drivers floor pan)

 

Seller says give him 2 weeks and he’ll have the front back together and send me a video of it running...  Fingers crossed?

Nice! An old uni mate's parents had a derv 504 estate dumped in their garden for years; they're farming types so nothing was thrown away. I genuinely can't remember the last time I saw another in the metal though- they must be almost down to single figures, surely? 

Intrigued to see where you go with this next.

[meowmeow]

5 hours ago, Dick Longbridge said:

Nice! An old uni mate's parents had a derv 504 estate dumped in their garden for years; they're farming types so nothing was thrown away. I genuinely can't remember the last time I saw another in the metal though- they must be almost down to single figures, surely? 

Intrigued to see where you go with this next.

I've been looking for one for a ridiculously long time, seen a few saloons but only 1 other RHD UK market estate. Explains the mad distances involved to get a hold of this one

The idea is to get it all up and running, and cosmetically back to what it looked like in 1985 just before someone drove it into something and took the front end off - want to be able to use it for what it was designed for, so not too pretty.

Everything's staying base-spec excpet maybe a period correct stereo, I'll see what I can find.

[meowmeow]

update if anyone's interested... (also someone please let me know how to change the thread title as I've had this thing for a month now)

sketchy times getting it up the drive - duct tape over the plate was for the tax fairies

everyone in my life who told me it wouldn't fit (including myself) can bugger off haha

 

found a free gift wing-mount aerial, but there's no radio, and no wings for that matter either? Came with the car so I'm keeping it, will re-install at some point in the distant future

 

Assessment time - removed the pond from under the rear seats, the dessicated rat from under the driver's seat (sorry no piccy) and the mouldly sound-deadening.

Needs: OS front floor (especially the bit under the rat, probably corroded by death juices), little bit of the OS rear floor, and parts of the boot floor:

eh, could be a lot worse

 

Floppy gearstick was irritating me, so had a look under the cover plate:

hmm that's not right...

 

pin's somehow sheared off the linkage. Probably unlikely to find a replacement, since seems it's base-model specific for some reason, so...

ended up being welded back together and popped back in the car. Was a right pain trying to get the bolt off the end to slide the pin back into the bushing, breaker bar in one hand and holding the linkage to the kitchen floor with my bare foot (socks give you no grip whatsoever)

 

All back together, featuring spare CV boot from the Golf, because again there's no way I'm ever finding an OEM replacement rubber boot. Please also ignore the large amount of daylight coming through the floor.

 

Ok so natural progression would be to get the clutch working, so master cylinders and servo out:

Wondering where all the brake fluid went?

Straight through the structure of the car of course. Excellent.

To be fair, looks like it's only the top side that's fucked, though not the easiest place to get to for welding.

 

Servo looked fine, so painted it with some weird £5 iron fence paint, just to protect it. Should really be plated but whatever.

May notice the recurring theme here that my workbench is a wheelie bin

 

Next steps, work out how to remove the front seats to get to the floors, and sort the clutch slave cyliner out as it's looking decidedly sad at present.

Need to get some taller axle stands from Machinemart since the ground clearance is so big nothing I have will lift the wheels off the ground, but gotta find a route that doesn't go through ULEZ cameras - every £12.50 I save will go on penetrant

 

 

[Dave_Q]

If you edit the first post in the thread, you can change the title.

[ProgRocker]

Cool 504. In the mid 1980s I was briefly friends with a lad whose dad had one of these. I recall the "Automatique" badge script on the boot. Think it was a metallic beige one and might even had been a 7 or 8 seater .

[hairnet]

uncle shay had a 504 saloon in this colour (bit shinier tho) in leitrim a loooooong time ago

replaced by a marina cix 838 - ive no idea why i remember the reg when liking the 504 more and the 304 estate i dont remember those

fek im old  504 might have been mid 80s but i think it was a late 70s car

[Matty]

Please keep us well up to date with your progress @meowmeow. Love these. Following with interest!

[vulgalour]

This forum, despite the occasional statement to the contrary, definitely is what it always was.

[N Dentressangle]

Not seen a 504 estate for years and they used to be everywhere.

Thought as a kid what a weird shape they were, with that crazy front end and pregnant belly on the back, but I'm guessing they can swallow immense amounts of crap and are mechanically tough as you like.

Wish everyone dealt with ULEZ like this and turned it into an opportunity to buy something fab.

[Matty]

2 hours ago, vulgalour said:

This forum, despite the occasional statement to the contrary, definitely is what it always was.

I casually agreed with that and I've only been a member since 2018 🤣

[Tartan58]

That is truly amazing.

A primary school friend's parents had one of these in metallic green, sitting in the 3rd row of seats was the coolest thing ever as a 7yr old (until they replaced it with a VW camper, traveling in the back of that was sub zero!)



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[Blue 850]

This is probably the most well known 504 in Ireland. Converted from a new 1.8 petrol estate to a hearse and kept in perfect running order after it was retired from "active duty" It stayed with the undertaker until his death and is now owned by a collector in Kerry who uses it sparingly for shows, and was used recently for a funeral of a man who had owned a Peugeot dealership in the 70s

[meowmeow]

Lil update:

Got the driver's seat out of the way,

you can actually work out where the dead rat was from the shape of the rust hole in the floor

Either way with the seat removed it was much easier to get the clutch pedal return spring re-attached - t'was still a right ballache of a job though

 

Ok so clutch slave next...

As mentioned previously it's totally fucked:

Not the best way to spend a Monday evening trying to get it out of the gearbox casing. Absolutely love it when two different metal parts are fitted together in such a way that as they corrode and expand over time they'll never be separated again...

Also very cute that to back it out of the casing fully I have to drop the steering rack 

(Any ideas on how to get this bugger outta here would be much appreciated)

 

Anyway after two hours of getting nowhere, knackered from work and not being able to find my work light, fumbling with the phone torch and a very dusty 60 watt bulb in the garage to light what I was doing, I decided I'd better go inside and do something pointless instead.

So inspired by HMC's Shadow thread, I got some bits of rubbish together and started constructing a front number plate:

Does it look good? No. Is it passable? Maybe??

 

I'd left the clutch slave marinating in penetrant for the rest of the week and was meaning to get back to it this weekend, but then got sidetracked by a short-notice request for kitten delivery

 

Will try and knock it out next weekend, new cylinder is on order but probably pretty far off fitting it at the minute

 

[junkyarddog]

Be very careful with that cylinder,because if you twat it too hard with a hammer it's possible to break the casting it's housed in from the gearbox.

Ask me how I know........🤣

[Bmwdumptruck]

40 minutes ago, junkyarddog said:

Be very careful with that cylinder,because if you twat it too hard with a hammer it's possible to break the casting it's housed in from the gearbox.

Ask me how I know........🤣

Exactly my thoughts. 
Think I’d look at cutting the front and back sections away and getting a saw blade through the middle to cut a slot to relax the pressure its putting on the casting.