Daft MOT advisories..

[RoverFolkUs]

Have come across a compilation that I thought I'd share

Also in a more literal sense, post up some advisories you've seen that are just blatantly stupid, nitpicky or irrelevant!

[Rocket88]

I detect a distinct anti piscatorial bias…..

[Split_Pin]

Way before MOTs were computerised, my first Corsa got an advisory for a 50p dent in the nearside rear door.

[sierraman]

VOSA don’t appreciate a sense of humour these days you can get struck off for such antics now 🤣

[horriblemercedes]

I can't remember the plate, but I once saw "Driver is a scrotum"

 

Really annoyed that I can't remember the plate to check on it

[colino]

Tired of, "Brake lines covered in grease so cannot be inspected" lies or, "Underside fitted with undertrays so cannot fully inspect", or "coil springs/underside/subframe corrosion, although no weakness detected" from my most used MOT station to, "cover our backs".  Newbie tester.

[sierraman]

Not really it’s a fair point as realistically it is very difficult to check a brake line in the time allotted if it’s thick with grease. Undertrays could be hiding all manner of leaks or corrosion to the subframe/bushings perished. The sad fact is you could test a car then it go down the road and the brake like burst where it goes over the fuel tank and have VOSA round potentially removing your livelihood

[artdjones]

Really the thick with grease ones should be a fail, who slathers thick grease on their brake lines without something to hide? As opposed to a light smear. But the tester can only test to the manual.

[sierraman]

2 hours ago, artdjones said:

Really the thick with grease ones should be a fail, who slathers thick grease on their brake lines without something to hide? As opposed to a light smear. But the tester can only test to the manual.

The whole basis of the test is to, if it’s not clear, give the benefit of the doubt to the owner. There’s no measurable matrix you can apply to say what’s a slather or what’s a smear. It’s intended as exactly what it’s worded, I know some can get really offended that it’s messed up the complete green line that shows it’s flown through every test. 

[Dave_Q]

[Dave_Q]

 

[big_al_granvia]

Those are actually genuine, just checked a few

[artdjones]

2 hours ago, sierraman said:

The whole basis of the test is to, if it’s not clear, give the benefit of the doubt to the owner. There’s no measurable matrix you can apply to say what’s a slather or what’s a smear. It’s intended as exactly what it’s worded, I know some can get really offended that it’s messed up the complete green line that shows it’s flown through every test. 

The advisory is given because the tester can't see the surface of the pipe so can't judge its conditions. Maybe it should be a fail on that basis? Grease is  almost transparent when thinly smeared, so wouldn't fail.

It's a shame so many manufacturers run the pipes in inaccessible places, such as over the top of the tank. I suppose it would be unreasonable to suggest that the tank should be dropped to check them. 😊

 

[sierraman]

23 minutes ago, artdjones said:

The advisory is given because the tester can't see the surface of the pipe so can't judge its conditions. Maybe it should be a fail on that basis? Grease is  almost transparent when thinly smeared, so wouldn't fail.

It's a shame so many manufacturers run the pipes in inaccessible places, such as over the top of the tank. I suppose it would be unreasonable to suggest that the tank should be dropped to check them. 😊

 

Grease is clear until you’ve driven it for a week or so and all the road salt and grease has stuck to it. You can’t fail something that you cannot see, you’d have to fail a lot of things on that basis. 

[Dave_Q]

I agree with @artdjones that 99.7% of people greasing a brake pipe are doing it to hide something, but the test is inspect only not de-grease so the advisory is the only thing they can do,

[artdjones]

20 minutes ago, Dave_Q said:

I agree with @artdjones that 99.7% of people greasing a brake pipe are doing it to hide something, but the test is inspect only not de-grease so the advisory is the only thing they can do,

Yes, not the tester's fault at all, but it should be made to be a fail. Then the chancer could go away and  pay for a new pipe to be fitted and a retest. Or just wipe the pipe clean and pay for a retest if he's one of the 0.3% who isn't trying it on.

[GrumpiusMaximus]

I've shamelessly stolen these from the RetroRides thread on the same topic but these are brutal.  On an MX5:

https://forum.retro-rides.org/thread/211374/strange-mot-advisories

[GregZX]

Not funny per se but a glance at an MOT of my Mrs old car is like the War and Peace edition of advisories and for no discernable reason, possibly to try and scare her into additional work. Next MOT at a different garage and none were listed.

The reg is SJ03 UTP if anyone wants a laugh.

[sierraman]

1 hour ago, artdjones said:

Yes, not the tester's fault at all, but it should be made to be a fail. Then the chancer could go away and  pay for a new pipe to be fitted and a retest. Or just wipe the pipe clean and pay for a retest if he's one of the 0.3% who isn't trying it on.

How would you legislate for let’s say a Vectra C, you cannot see the brake pipes as they go over the top of the fuel tank. Drop the tank as part of the inspection?

Also what about people trying to avoid their pipes going rusty in the first place. 

[RoverFolkUs]

[RoverFolkUs]

I don't blame testers for advising brake pipes, now the thing is I always grease the last 1" exposed part on an Aygo/C1/107 if it's not already rotten

Had one advised last week (the car failed on some other work) It let go on the way back from its retest this afternoon! It didn't look particularly bad but it's obviously got to be done now!

[artdjones]

57 minutes ago, sierraman said:

How would you legislate for let’s say a Vectra C, you cannot see the brake pipes as they go over the top of the fuel tank. Drop the tank as part of the inspection?

Also what about people trying to avoid their pipes going rusty in the first place. 

There's a difference between the manufacturer leading the pipes through somewhere they can't be seen, although it's a bit stupid and unnecessary, and someone without an appropriate sense of safety slapping a lump of grease on a pipe so that the tester doesn't notice pits that take away nearly all the margin preventing a rupture.

 

[Fat_Pirate]

https://www.theautopian.com/mot-advisories-strange/

Thomas Hundal, do you walk amongst us? 😀

If you're not already doing it, I recommend putting the Autopian on your daily web trawl, there's some excellent stuff from Torch and Mercedes Streeter in particular.

[horriblemercedes]

That's not ideal. I've seen these over the years get changed after a complaint. That BMW M3 "driver needs a haircut" one is no longer 

[Petrolize]

I sometimes wonder where SH12RYN (feel free to look up) gets it’s mots done, has under 20k on the clock but always a huge list of pointless advisories

• Rear ALL THE REAR WINDOWS ARE TINTED

[Bren]

On 3/13/2023 at 4:37 PM, Dave_Q said:

I agree with @artdjones that 99.7% of people greasing a brake pipe are doing it to hide something, but the test is inspect only not de-grease so the advisory is the only thing they can do,

Many moons ago when I had a mk 2 cav it was advised to grease pipes to prevent corrosion unless they had been replaced with kunifer.

[horriblemercedes]

5 minutes ago, Bren said:

Many moons ago when I had a mk 2 cav it was advised to grease pipes to prevent corrosion unless they had been replaced with kunifer.

It seems to be the general advice of specialists for 986 and 996 Porsches too. I took mine to a new specialist for a service and one of the first things he said when it was on the ramps was, "oh good, you're greasing the pipes. It makes such a difference on these cars. It's always a sign that the owner has been caring for it when you see fresh grease."

 

Previous specialist had advised it too

[EyesWeldedShut]

15 minutes ago, Petrolize said:

I sometimes wonder where SH12RYN (feel free to look up) gets it’s mots done, has under 20k on the clock but always a huge list of pointless advisories

• Rear ALL THE REAR WINDOWS ARE TINTED

Funny thing is that the check mot site includes HGVs now and carries the name of the VTS

[RoverFolkUs]

11 hours ago, Petrolize said:

I sometimes wonder where SH12RYN (feel free to look up) gets it’s mots done, has under 20k on the clock but always a huge list of pointless advisories

• Rear ALL THE REAR WINDOWS ARE TINTED

What the actual 🤣

• ALL THE BRAKE PIPES ARE PLASTIC COATED

• ALL THE BRAKE PIPES ARE PLASTIC COATED

You can say that again! 

So exactly as they left the factory then?

• APPLIED FINGER AND THUMB PRESSURE ON SILLS AND FLOOR AREA

Probably applied finger and thumb pressure to his mate as well while logging that lot off...

[RoverFolkUs]

11 hours ago, EyesWeldedShut said:

Funny thing is that the check mot site includes HGVs now and carries the name of the VTS

Is that for a car or HGV? Still needs the V5 number for a car as far as I can see?