The grumpy thread

[Pete-M]

Just stick it in a classic auction with no reserve, if it goes for £750 odd that's £750 more than you'll get by blowing it up.

 

It's making £915 on the bay of E right now, so there could be hope. Surely you'd rather take that than destroy it?

 

There could indeed be hope, but I get this strange feeling it won't be on the bay of E.

 

Apologies for the ranting. the 604 sitting on the path, unused for a month is just pissing me right off, and when the Prof offered to "out Top Gear anything you've ever seen when it comes to automotive destruction.." I have to admit the temptation got to me more than a tad. I've never owned a car that nobody wanted before! I know that sounds strange, but in the past if I've bought something I didn't get on with it has never ever been a problem to shift it, and that's a fair few hundred cars. On some things I don't mind losing a few quid, but this Pug has swallowed 18 months of my time, significant amounts of cash and it actually drives rather well.

 

I just despise the engine in it. Properly hate the engine! It's got a really weird power delivery. Off the line it goes rather well, it's actually quite nippy away from the lights and it does go alright there's just something about the engine I really dislike. There's nothing below 1000 rpm, then it pulls well to 2000 rpm, then above about 3000 rpm it just sounds harsh and a fair bit louder without much more in the way of poke. It is most likely something to do with it being a 90’ V6 with a flat crank, but it's an engine I really don't get on with. It seems to spend its whole life at 2000 rpm, and I don't really like the sound it makes. Peugeot should have stuck with the V8 instead of lopping cylinders off to create this thing. For me, the engine ruins the car. With a V8 I'd love the thing.

 

Put it this way, since I bought the Subaru the Pug hasn't moved, not an inch. I don't think I've started it for a month, and I've not missed it. I look at the 604 and it makes me grin, but the thought of driving it with that bloody weird engine and I can't be bothered with it. I waited over a year to drive it and then the engine started to irritate me. Now it's annoying me just sitting there. It's a shame, a lot of effort and hard work went into fixing it up and basically rescuing it, it's solid and not too shabby at all, but I don't like driving it. So I advertised it and as I say, not one person has actually bothered coming to see it. It's not expensive, last time I looked it was less than half the price of the next road legal one for sale in the whole of Europe.

 

I'm going to speak to a couple of the auction houses about putting it in a classic sale, but I'm not going to let it go for silly money. I will let the Prof have his way with it if it doesn't fetch something sensible. I'd rather he blows it to bits than give it away, at least that way it'll be memorable for something other than that bloody awful PRV engine.

 

I now understand exactly how lots of unusual old cars ended up in the scrappage scheme as if scrappage was still going I'd at least be able to recoup my expenditure short term. I also understand exactly how this ended up being one of the last 604 STis.....

 

the 604 is too obscure and lacks the brand cache that would make people want to buy it. The fuel consumption and lack of parts would also put off younger or first time classic car fans

 

I suspect your guess has hit the nail on the head. Lack of parts isn't actually an issue. Ok, there are a few oddball bits that may be a little rare, but the majority of bits are 504 bits and they were still made in Argentina very recently. Bits aren't even expensive for it. Ok, it's not exactly fuel-sipper of the year, but it's better on juice than a 2.8i Granada auto, handles better, rides better and is about 1/2 the price of a solid Mk2 Granny.

 

It has to go very soon. I want the space back for the Jag, and I've totally lost patience with the Peugeot.

[Guest]

Take it Martin Buckley didn't get in touch then? I stuck a note under the wiper of his Roller at the Le Mans Classic.

Tried the 604 Registrar bloke too to no avail.

[Pete-M]

Take it Martin Buckley didn't get in touch then? I stuck a note under the wiper of his Roller at the Le Mans Classic.

Tried the 604 Registrar bloke too to no avail.

 

2149 views and 75 watchers on ebay at present. 0 phone calls. 1 message from some dick saying "If it was a diesel, I'd have it".

 

It must be something to do with old Peugeots.....

[Cavcraft]

Let the oval boys take it, Pete. Their money is as good as anyone else's and it's not like you haven't tried to sell it to someone else.

[messerschmitt owner]

can't help but agree - basically, I feel the majority of the people who would want a Pug 604 are on this very forum - and we don't want it, obviously. I have no issues with you scrapping it or it being bangered.

[dollywobbler]

Are you sure you don't want a Mini as swapsies? I'd love it but the cash just isn't there.

[RedSparrow]

I would agree bwith Cavette. As sad as it sounds, if the banger lads are the only ones genuinely inerested in buying, go for it.

Go and watch if you can, and take some photos. It'll at least go out with a bang and unlike with your Professor mates idea you will get a grand or so back.

[willswitchengage]

2149 views and 75 watchers on ebay at present. 0 phone calls. 1 message from some dick saying "If it was a diesel, I'd have it".

 

You would definitely have more responses if you changed font to Arial Black and wrote "I've had 75 watchers !!!" and "I will NOT convert to diesel as it's taing the piss !!"

 

Are the seats like new, with NO tears, and does it have an excellent working engine?

[FredTransit]

 

I'm going to speak to a couple of the auction houses about putting it in a classic sale, but I'm not going to let it go for silly money. I will let the Prof have his way with it if it doesn't fetch a grand or over. I'd rather he blows it to bits than give it away, at least that way it'll be memorable for something other than that bloody awful PRV engine.

 

I don't get it. You won't take less than a grand for it, but are happy to loose the money by blowing it up. Who's being punished here? You or the car?

[Station]

Annoying having a car that won't sell and is attracting time wasters, the only thing you can do is wait, it'd be a sham to see it get bashed into oblivion in a banger race, I hope it sells before that. Someone must want it!!

[Spiny Norman]

I don't see the Ebay ad any more, what did it eventually fetch?

[MrDuke]

£915 apparently, reserve not met

[Pete-M]

Yup. £915. Not enough.

 

I'd be up for a swap on it, but it'd have to be for something daft that doesn't overlap with the Impreza or XJR.

[scaryoldcortina]

I've had a terrible day. This morning I had to get up earlier than usual to drive my daughter to Newcastle because she was going into hospital. Over an hour fighting through traffic and rain. Then another hour back again. I was almost home when she rang to say the surgery had been postponed because she needs another CT scan first, so I did it all again. This of course left me in a wonderful mood for this afternoon.

 

I should have been an easy job - snapped aux belt on a peugeot 206 HDi - but no. I already looked at the car intending to fit a belt at the roadside but when it went it lassooed the tensioner pulley with the flappy bit of the belt and bent the bracket meaning the new belt would run straight off. I tried to remove the tensioner, but you can't get the bolt out because it hits the chassis. So I brought it to the garage, still assuming that once the bolt was out (by undoing the engine mount and lowering the engine to gain some clearance) it would all go well and be back together and sorted by teatime.

 

Well, I R RONG. I've spent all afternoon swearing, losing tools into impossible to reach bits of engine bay and getting covered in the nasty waxy sooty crap you find all over a 100000 mile diesel engine. The alternator is off, so is the PAS pump, the aircon compressor is dangling from its pipes. The tensioner however is still in place, laughing at me. It sits behind the large cast bracket that holds the alternator, PAS and AC. This is bolted (behind the pumps) to the block with 3 bolts and an allen headed screw. The screw is at the bottom of a 15cm deep hole in the bracket and I don't have an allen key long enough.

 

Add this to the extreme lack of room to work in a 206 engine bay and the fact that I've been working out (in terms of time and relative difficulty) that a Mondeo clutch might have worked out easier/cheaper in the long run and you can see why I'm a bit cheesed off.

[Negative Creep]

Mouth is still really hurting, and am on painkillers with a big "WARNING: ADDICTIVE" label on the front which are causing some rather odd emotions and side effects. It's still painful to eat anything and I'm supposed to be washing it with warm salt water, which is hard to do without retching. It might sound stupid, but I feel like I've lost a part of myself that I'm never going to get back, and I will feel it on every single thing I eat for the rest of my life.

 

 

Probably just as well I couldn't get this weekend off work, since if I were missing Shitefest for this I'd be really angry.

[M'coli]

The screw is at the bottom of a 15cm deep hole in the bracket and I don't have an allen key long enough

If you haven't managed this yet, can I suggest cutting the bend off the allen key then using the correct socket & extension bar on the allen key to get it done if there's enough clearance for the socket? Failing that, weld a long bolt onto the remains of the allen key?

[Spiny Norman]

On Channel 5s Police Interceptors programme last night there was a poor bloke who'd had his pristine old 6 series belted up the bum by some dozy cow in a Hyundai Accent. All agreed it looked like a write-off.

 

[autofive]

that made me grin, not grump

[Angrydicky]

I've just been watching that, I did feel sorry for the bloke. It's currently on a SORN though, so fingers crossed it's being (or going to be) repaired.

[retrogeezer]

It's not been scrapped as it shows as sorn, hopefully being repaired. It looked like a bloody good buy for the £3k the bloke said he paid for it!

 

And what a w4nker that bloke in the white van was, how he didn't kill anyone is a miracle.

 

The vehicle details for A39 USR are:

Date of Liability 01 12 2012

Date of First Registration 09 03 1984

Year of Manufacture 1984

Cylinder Capacity (cc) 3430cc

CO2 Emissions Not Available

Fuel Type PETROL

Export Marker N

Vehicle Status SORN Not Due

Vehicle Colour RED

Vehicle Type Approval Not Available

Vehicle Excise Duty rate for vehicle

6 Months Rate £121.00

12 Months Rate £220.00

[cobblers]

I'm sure I've seen that beemer on retro rides in pieces.

 

Edit: Yep!

http://retrorides.proboards.com/index.c ... =1#1552832

 

 

[ashmicro]

Beat me to it Cobblers. I knew I recognised it.

[Louise2cv]

I am a miserable old cow, but what is it with people announcing their "plans to get engaged" (to be married)? Surely you are or you aren't? If you've asked the question and agreed to do it, then you are engaged, no?

 

Apparently people are having pre-engagment photos AND pre engagement rings. What?

 

On the plus size, sorry side, Chris Moyles is leaving radio 1, can only hope and prey they haven't got him lined up for some chat show thing on TV.

[Cavcraft]

Fat arse leaving mainstream radio can only ever be fantastic news.

[Louise2cv]

Please please let Steve Wright be next.

[Richard]

Please please let Steve Wright be next.

 

Get yourself a DAB radio and listen to 6 Music, Radio 2 is too close to Alan Partridge (who is rumoured to be based on R2 stand-in Richard Madeley) for comfort.

[cobblers]

On the plus size, sorry side, Chris Moyles is leaving radio 1, can only hope and prey they haven't got him lined up for some chat show thing on TV.

 

I have just received this email from a place I got a few sets of free "studio audience" tickets from a couple of years back.

 

Hello there!

 

As you have a priority note, we thought that you might be interested to know that tickets are now available for a brand new series recording at Pinewood Studios! As with all of our shows, the tickets are FREE!

 

THE LOVE MACHINE with CHRIS MOYLES & STACEY SOLOMON

 

Chris Moyles and Stacey Solomon host The Love Machine; the hilarious dating show!

 

The show tapes at Pinewood Studios, and booking is now open for the new series, so if you would like to join us for an evening (or afternoon) of fun with Chris & Stacey, then apply now!

 

 

You can't bloody write this shit.

[autofive]

On the plus size, sorry side, Chris Moyles is leaving radio 1, can only hope and prey they haven't got him lined up for some chat show thing on TV.

 

I have just received this email from a place I got a few sets of free "studio audience" tickets from a couple of years back.

 

Hello there!

 

As you have a priority note, we thought that you might be interested to know that tickets are now available for a brand new series recording at Pinewood Studios! As with all of our shows, the tickets are FREE!

 

THE LOVE MACHINE with CHRIS MOYLES & STACEY SOLOMON

 

Chris Moyles and Stacey Solomon host The Love Machine; the hilarious dating show!

 

The show tapes at Pinewood Studios, and booking is now open for the new series, so if you would like to join us for an evening (or afternoon) of fun with Chris & Stacey, then apply now!

 

 

You can't bloody write this shit.

 

a slug and a horse presenting blind date - this is why i dont have a TV

[RedSparrow]

I don't get it. Everyone talks about how much they hate Moyles but he is still inexplicably popular and gets loads of work.

Fat cunt.

[Cavcraft]

It's because he's hyped himself up (see S. Wright esq) and now actually believes he's mega popular. I honestly reckon that he thinks if he shouts louder/talks over others and has a system (radio show) where nobody can shoot him down or answer back, he's pretty much got it all.

 

I am vaguely aware of that box of toss dating show as there was a trailer for it on telly a while back. I asked my teenage daughter who this horse faced bint was and apparently she was on Big Brother which means she'll be another talentless slag.