The grumpy thread

[Mr Lobster]

BMW driver sounds like a knob but I didn't see the programme so I've no idea of the context, however - 

 

 

 

I will overtake when its safe to do so. All overtaking is not reckless.

 

 

This bit is ok with me. There does seem to be a growing number of roadusers who can't / don't / won't / daren't / think its illegal to overtake. Every week I get stuck behind someone doing 40 on the same bit of wide, straight single carriageway in a NSL area in the countryside despite the clear oncoming road and good visibilty. Why they won't overtake is beyond me. 

[Spiny Norman]

This bit is ok with me. There does seem to be a growing number of roadusers who can't / don't / won't / daren't / think its illegal to overtake. Every week I get stuck behind someone doing 40 on the same bit of wide, straight single carriageway in a NSL area in the countryside despite the clear oncoming road and good visibilty. Why they won't overtake is beyond me. 

 

THIS.

 

It's possibly some new thing kids are being taught when they're learning to drive, that it's maybe 'too aggressive' or 'un-eco' to overtake another car, but it certainly gets some folk's backs up. Some people nowadays seem to regard being overtaken as some kind of slight on their manhood, especially the women, and react like complete dicks when you do.

[bub2006]

My wife doesn't agree with overtaking another vehicle in a single carriage way but will overtake anything doing less than 85 on the bypass. When i was driving I never did more than 75/80 on the clock and generally stuck to limits. But as already been said if I was on a national speed limit road or a 50/40 road and someone was dawdling around 25/30 I would overtake. Closely followed by a bollocking from the wife.

[bub2006]

75/80 on the bypass that should read. Cant edit on phone.

[Mr Livered]

I never heard of not "agreeing" with overtaking before. Of course there are some pretty nervous drivers around so some people might not have the bottle, but some kind of objection in principle? Bizarre.

[chaseracer]

Oh dear.  The line of three dawdlers I overtook on a wide straight road with a gentle squeeze on the 300E's throttle may have had objections to my doing so.

 

Tough.

[HillmanImp]

Whats the rules on suicide lanes? If there is nobody on the overtaking on the middle lane can anyone use it? If I overtake on them I regulary get flashed and beeped at by people on both sides of the road. I thought that the middle made was for whoever wanted to use it hence the dotted lines.

 

Can you only use the middle lane if you are on the 1 lane side if both lanes on the 2 lane side are free?

 

Not sure if I am doing something wrong?

 

I cant remember if I have asked this before on the Stupid Question Amnesty.

[bub2006]

I say not agree with it as if someone is dawdling she just stays behind them,if someone over takes on the opposite side of the road she will explain her displeasure through flashing of lights and obscenities! I just get bollocked.

[Mr Livered]

As I understand it, if there's a dashed line anyone can use it. Most are crawler lanes nowadays, so one direction has a solid line and shouldn't overtake but if there's no solid line and people beep and flash, I would have thought an obscene gesture would be in order.

[Cavcraft]

People who sit behind trucks doing 40mph on single carriage roads when they can safely overtake get in my tits.

Try the A49 and A41 Shropshire/Cheshire and you'll see what I mean. You can get large build ups if traffic because a few bottlers won't overtake. I used to pick them off oneat a time then get past the truck when safe to do so, and this in a 7.5tonner.

[Partridge]

I can't see the problem with over taking when it's a clear, straight road. And if the BMW tailgates, then that's wrong. But personally I can't be arsed to overtake half the time.

 

But what does piss me off is this: near where I live there's a lay by half covered with trees, right in a section where it goes from a 40 limit, to a 60 limit. I know the police lurk in it with a mobile piggy bank saftey camera van at times, so I wait until I'm past the de-restriction sign before dropping a cog and booting it, incase the poilce van is there.

 

Becuase I'm not speeding up towards the sign, quite often people will overtake before hand, and then every other bugger behind will blindly follow suite to get past the slow old duffer in the Citroen/Mercedes/Polo or whatever I'm driving at the time.

I'm useally co-operative when people want to get by (I move over and slow down to make it safer) but not on that strech, when they all rush by "because the person in front overtook as well", I just boot it and accelerate like a wanker. Sod 'em.

[hairnet]

40 in a 60 for example and solid white = obstuction = overtake as long as not dangerous

 

Pisses me off too

 

If theres a roundabout ahead on single cwy then why do it etc just wait

 

Shit slow can be as dangerous as shit fast

[Partridge]

Shit slow can be as dangerous as shit fast

Yes. Mongs doing 40 on the motorway is more likely to cause a smash than somebody doing 100.

[wuvvum]

People who sit behind trucks doing 40mph on single carriage roads when they can safely overtake get in my tits.

Try the A49 and A41 Shropshire/Cheshire and you'll see what I mean. You can get large build ups if traffic because a few bottlers won't overtake. I used to pick them off oneat a time then get past the truck when safe to do so, and this in a 7.5tonner.

 

That's fair enough when it's possible to do that, but I often find that if there's one or two bottlers at the front of the queue, everyone behind will then be trundling along nose to tail (but not overtaking) so it's impossible to overtake one or two at a time even in a car, let alone a truck.  The only option is to wait for a decent clear stretch and pass the whole lot at once - this is something the Rover of Doom used to excel at in its heyday, but not always feasible in a slower car.

[Cavcraft]

Or an Iveco Cargo, hence picking them off one at a time!

[Station]

I come home on the A41 and it's pretty horrible once you're stuck behind a queue. There are only three points you can 'legally' overtake (dual carriageways) from Birmingham to Chester, but I do at the best opportunity. Best road for overtaking is the M53/A5, it's constant A4/3-series overtaking whatever. I used to do it in my Nippa past trucks, etc.!

[saucedoctor]

If you want to overtake stuff and have fun at the same time, get a Yamaha TZR 250 Powerrrrvalve. I had one, and you could overtake whole traffic jams. It was even better after I realised the back tyre was on backwards, and I got it sorted.

[HillmanImp]

That's fair enough when it's possible to do that, but I often find that if there's one or two bottlers at the front of the queue, everyone behind will then be trundling along nose to tail (but not overtaking) so it's impossible to overtake one or two at a time even in a car, let alone a truck.  The only option is to wait for a decent clear stretch and pass the whole lot at once - this is something the Rover of Doom used to excel at in its heyday, but not always feasible in a slower car.

 

The trick I use is to wait for the point where the long line of traffic approaches a village where the speed limit changes. Even in a small car I boot it along the outside and because the line of traffic slows down significantly I normally get the whole line. You are barely speeding by the time you get to the front car. 

[Cavcraft]

The A5/A483 is a bit better than the A41, but still quite twattish at times. It was on that road (at the Oswestry/Shrewsbury roundabout) that I got my greatest ever driving accolade when some turnip cocked botty fondler rang my boss to say he'd been the transport manager of a haulage company for 23 years, and had never seen driving as bad as mine.

I think the fact I offered him a fight and implied his missus was a hefty bovine didn't really help.

[Bobthebeard]

The 'no car' lanes in Newcastle caused me to be slightly grumpy today, but possibly because I don't live there and/or understand how it actually works....

Makes turning left at junctions a real bugger. The 'no car' lanes being full of taxis, pickup trucks, buses, pushbikes, vans, pedestrians and, err, cars. Turning left was rarely an option.

Anyone?

Had me stumped. Was trying to get to St James' Park. Ended up on the A1 twice. Via the bus station....

[Bucketeer]

If you want to overtake stuff and have fun at the same time, get a Yamaha TZR 250 Powerrrrvalve. I had one, and you could overtake whole traffic jams. It was even better after I realised the back tyre was on backwards, and I got it sorted.

 

RD350 Powervulva for me. GR11 for overtaking lines of traffic. GR-6 for avoiding not being able to brake for the upcoming junction, dry-stone wall, and numerous broken bones.

[Bobthebeard]

The trick I use is to wait for the point where the long line of traffic approaches a village where the speed limit changes. Even in a small car I boot it along the outside and because the line of traffic slows down significantly I normally get the whole line. You are barely speeding by the time you get to the front car.

 

The trick you use is sadly not your own idea, hence the outside lane is full of people using the same trick....

We all* think we are getting one up on t'other drivers. Three lanes merging into two? No worries. Will just stay in lane three then push in..... No one else will. Lol.

No offence. I have just been on the M6... Horrible ...Sorry....

[overrun]

The 'no car' lanes in Newcastle caused me to be slightly grumpy today, but possibly because I don't live there and/or understand how it actually works....

Makes turning left at junctions a real bugger. The 'no car' lanes being full of taxis, pickup trucks, buses, pushbikes, vans, pedestrians and, err, cars. Turning left was rarely an option.

Anyone?

Had me stumped. Was trying to get to St James' Park. Ended up on the A1 twice. Via the bus station....

 

The bit of road in front of the bus station (Haymarket) is fucking stupid now. Forced to return the way you came, via the pigeon-shit roundabout.

 

You wanna see the lanes in Sunderland. Not just no cars 7-7. No cars, ever. :/

[Jim Bell]

No car roads.

 

That's the future.

 

I've never had any bother through town, apart from the design of the central motorway. 90 degree bend on a steep gradient that joins straight onto the fast lane of a motorway that's also an exit lane?

That a great idea.

[hairnet]

cough motorcycle cough foreign plate cough problem solved

[oman5]

 some turnip cocked botty fondler

 

 

LMAO!!!!

[dollywobbler]

I never heard of not "agreeing" with overtaking before. Of course there are some pretty nervous drivers around so some people might not have the bottle, but some kind of objection in principle? Bizarre.

 

You wouldn't believe how angry some people get with overtakers. Especially when the car overtaking is a 2CV. Just let me past and get back to dawdling! My aunt always complains "they never get there any quicker." Er, no. They do actually and even if there's a trivial time saving, the overtaking rush is enjoyable and I no longer have to stare at the back of some horrible, slow-moving vehicle. 

 

Also, if I'm driving my community minibus (max speed 50mph on single carriageway, often slower so I don't rock the bus) and someone overtakes, I can tell how quickly they are doing so by the length of time it takes the tuts to get from the back of the bus to the front...

[HillmanImp]

I was overtaking a 205 on the Otley rd in the Daf once. Had a good run on the 205 and got out onto the other side of the road to get past it. I should have known better after riding a CBR125 to York every day for a year but as soon as i was out of the slipstream i lost all momentum.

 

Determined not to give up my mate and me did that wierd rocking back and forwards thing that you do in old cars in a futile (and probably misguided) attempt to make them go faster.

 

Thankfully the girl in the 205 found this hilarious and kindly slowed down to let us pass and we roared (rattled) into the sunset.

[Albert Ross]

Overtaking? Use a Frog Face Scorpio Cosworth. Makes the local pikeys bloody angry that their L200 or Transit won't catch it....

 

Heavy Traffic? Use a brush painted W115 Merc with no wheeltrims. It makes it look like you don't give a fuck about it. It doesn't lie.

[vulgalour]

Nobody likes being overtaken by a beige Princess driven by a man wearing a hat and suit.  Nobody.