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Shall I expect : "Needs Saved" entering the Oxford English Dictionary some  time soon ?  Nope. It's still wrong. (Unless there's a special Scottish Grammar / Dictionary, for special Scottish People)

 

I await a banning / warning for imagining a "Special" dictionary for special people. 

 

Either/or is perfectly correct in the way i applied it. It's shorthand for "needs to be saved". perhaps it's more regionally common here as a spoken term than elsewhere, but that doesn't make it wrong.

 

Saving = The act or intention of rescue

Saved = The completion (either finalised or in hope of finalisation) of rescue.

 

Given i'm referring to the hopeful completion of a rescue, The words saving or saved are correct. The construction of "Needs saved" is also correct.

 

What a genuinely bizarre thing to be picked up on, and genuinely bizarre outburst of a reply "Special Scottish grammar, for Special Scottish people".... With all due respect, sir, I'll keep that in mind the next time i'm reading one of your posts and having to rearrange it in my head to give myself a shot of working out what you're referring to, due to general bastardisation of grammar and punctuation.

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Either/or is perfectly correct in the way i applied it. It's shorthand for "needs to be saved". perhaps it's more regionally common here as a spoken term than elsewhere, but that doesn't make it wrong.

 

Saving = The act or intention of rescue

Saved = The completion (either finalised or in hope of finalisation) of rescue.

 

Given i'm referring to the hopeful completion of a rescue, The words saving or saved are correct. The construction of "Needs saved" is also correct.

 

What a genuinely bizarre thing to be picked up on, and genuinely bizarre outburst of a reply "Special Scottish grammar, for Special Scottish people".... With all due respect, sir, I'll keep that in mind the next time i'm reading one of your posts and having to rearrange it in my head to give myself a shot of working out what you're referring to, due to general bastardisation of grammar and punctuation.

No, sorry, "needs to be saved" is standard. "Needs saving" is standard. "Needs saved" is a regional (ie, Scottish) thing which is not only entirely non standard but is an ugly and lazy shortcut. Wouldn't be allowed in any newspaper, magazine or non-fiction book as it its construction distracts entirely from its meaning. If I tried getting that in print I'd get an earful from my boss at the very least.

 

tbh moaning about grammar on the Internet is pretty dull and it doesn't bother me one bit that people have increasingly begun to use this construction over the last few years, nor does it bother me (and why should it bother anyone) that people type the way they speak, including regional variations, but you absolutely cannot claim that this is standard English. Sorry.

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No, sorry, "needs to be saved" is standard. "Needs saving" is standard. "Needs saved" is a regional (ie, Scottish) thing which is not only entirely non standard but is an ugly and lazy shortcut. Wouldn't be allowed in any newspaper, magazine or non-fiction book as it its construction distracts entirely from its meaning. If I tried getting that in print I'd get an earful from my boss at the very least.

 

tbh moaning about grammar on the Internet is pretty dull and it doesn't bother me one bit that people have increasingly begun to use this construction over the last few years, nor does it bother me (and why should it bother anyone) that people type the way they speak, including regional variations, but you absolutely cannot claim that this is standard English. Sorry.

 

I'm not saying it's standard English, i'm saying it's correct in the terms of shorthand and even said perhaps it's just more common regionally as a spoken thing.

 

Language is a pretty fluid thing, constructs do change over the years, this has become a pretty common spoken one here, maybe it seems worse to people who don't hear/see it regularly.

 

If i was writing for a publication, i would probably have put "Needs to be saved", I'm not writing for a publication, it was a post on the internet where it was bizarrely picked up on like i'd just committed an act of treason. And the "Special Scottish people" remark was a piss poor comment.

 

All i'm saying is that if we're going to hold everyone to professional writing standards and all now need to write like we're getting paid for it on forum, with zero regional variations, then that's going to be a barrel of laughs.

 

You're right, it's boring.

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Guildford, Surrey. 800 quids worth of versatile beige.

 

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Nissan-Sunny-1-3Ltr-three-door-hatch-back-Classic/264092085042?hash=item3d7d1d6b32:g:b5MAAOSwXHxcF7hg

 

'Sails through all M.O.T's without any advisories'

 

Except on the 11th July 2016 where it got an advisory for the number plate?

 

'Sails through all M.O.T's without any advisories'

 

Except for April 2015 where it failed on

Reason(s) for failure
  • All position lamps not working (1.1.A.3b)
  • Rear fog lamp not working (1.3.2b)
  • Registration plate lamp not working (1.1.C.1d)
  • Rear registration plate deteriorated (6.3.1d)
  • Windscreen washer provides insufficient washer liquid (8.2.3)?

 

'Sails through all M.O.T's without any advisories'

 

Except in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009 too?

 

And for that, you get an official Cavcraft

 

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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mercedes-benz-W108-3-5-V8-280se-1972-RHD/173695375831?hash=item28710d19d7:g:cU8AAOSwDJNb2a4r

 

And, just like my pork sword in the Spice Girls' hotel bedroom...

 

'will require wielding'

 

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Have we had this Astra yet?  It's a Merit so 60bhp "Hi-Torq" engine and no PAS for added misery.  It does appear to have rear arches though, which is a bonus.

 

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