90's cars with no particular following

[captain_cal]

First series Saab 9-3? I saw a saloon for the first time in ages yesterday. Any following? Looked ok if a little bland. Good condition .

 

These have a pretty strong following in Europe and in the USA, UKSaabs was a good forum (and continues to be, if a bit quiet) with loads of info when I had both of mine. 9-5s seem to have a slightly bigger following, mainly made up of people who remap them to silly bhp and enjoy mega speed for not much £.

[wuvvum]

Innocenti Mini.  It's based on an Issigonis Mini, but much rarer and in many ways better, so in theory should be worth £££.  But nope.

[wuvvum]

Also Lancia Y10.  My GTie is in many ways a much better car than the equivalent Nova SR or Polo GT, but the values are not even close.

 

Although that's a good thing in some ways as if they were I wouldn't have been able to afford to buy it...

[tul66]

Lancia Y10; truly dreadful car.  First dibs when you come to sell!

[Justin Case]

A lot of it is about nostalgia, and recapturing the cars of  your youth. For example my generation were generally the first where the family had a car, hence the attraction of Morris Minors and A60 Farinas. Later it was your own first car, Mini, Beetle or Spridget that brings back happy memories, or perhaps the TR or big Healey that you aspired to but can only now afford. On to the 80s, and this was the era of the hot hatch, so wonder XR3s, GTIs, 205 GTIs and the like are so sought after, the cooking versions are largely ignored though. Move forward to the 90s and there are hardly any cars that you can remember, MX5s Alfas and Porsches being notable exceptions.

 

The fact is that virtually all cars  of the 90s, even such as the Cavalier and Peugeot 405, while being more than competent, don't evoke any emotion and will soon be as forgotten as the Hillman Avenger.

[John F]

Justin Case, on 08 Jan 2019 - 8:43 PM, said:

The fact is that virtually all cars  of the 90s, even such as the Cavalier and Peugeot 405, while being more than competent, don't evoke any emotion and will soon be as forgotten as the Hillman Avenger.

 

 

Maybe not to you, but I suspect any kid that bought a Corsa or a Saxo as their first car will enjoy their reminiscences and possibly aspire to buy themselves a nice restored VXR or VTS when they're older and have plenty of disposable income.

[Kringle]

In my completely uneducated opinion I reckon next will be the Gran Turismo generation, JDM YO! Fast and Furious lineup, it's already happening with rx7's, skylines and Supra's (Manual).

 

As for the cars of now? The pattern may end what with PCPs and the like.

[Tamworthbay]

 

Maybe not to you, but I suspect any kid that bought a Corsa or a Saxo as their first car will enjoy their reminiscences and possibly aspire to buy themselves a nice restored VXR or VTS when they're older and have plenty of disposable income.

The problem is that as cars have become more complex/ expensive to fix and as they change much more regularly part wise they do not survive the bottom of the value curve as well as older cars did so there will be very few survivors of cars like that for people to be nostalgic about. I see more Escort Mexico’s than I do Nova SRs, in fact I c at remember the last time I saw ANY Nova for that matter.

[Justin Case]

 

Maybe not to you, but I suspect any kid that bought a Corsa or a Saxo as their first car will enjoy their reminiscences and possibly aspire to buy themselves a nice restored VXR or VTS when they're older and have plenty of disposable income.

 Oops, perhaps I should have mentioned those as they do illustrate my point, but only time will tell if todays 35 year olds will grow into todays 45 year olds in another ten years.

[Eddie Honda]

It really could do with a complete respray.

That's a little better. "rectification" sounds like you've been hanging out with two-bucket wrong 'uns!

[Matty]

Oops, perhaps I should have mentioned those as they do illustrate my point, but only time will tell if todays 35 year olds will grow into todays 45 year olds in another ten years.

I'm 37. Keep an eye on me.

[wuvvum]

Lancia Y10; truly dreadful car.  First dibs when you come to sell!

At the moment you're in a queue behind Skattrd and Lanciamatt.  I've no immediate plans to sell though...

[egg]

I was thinking about XK8's today - following the well worn path of every Jaguar - full of problems if you want to take one of the 90's ones on, but if you can see it through the tough 'valueless' period (plenty around under £5k), then you're probably on to a long term winner.

[fatharris]

There's a reason Kia Mentors don't have a following.

 

They're shit. Not even redeemingly so.

[mk2_craig]

Mitsubishi Carisma. Give it another five years and we'll all be wanking ourselves senseless when someone unearths a saloon.

[blguy1975]

SAO Penza ,

I would give my Gran away in a raffle to own one

[mitsisigma01]

Mitsubishi Carisma. Give it another five years and we'll all be wanking ourselves senseless when someone unearths a saloon.

I thought there was a few dubious deposits on my Sigma wagon at the Field of Dreams a few years back !!!

[gricer]

Kia Pride has a micro-following of me. But I have three of them to make up for the largesse of others.

[gricer]

The cars that will never have a following, of course are '90s compact MPVs. Scenic, Picasso, Zafira, anyone? Literally zero appeal.

[JeeExEll]

Granada Mk3 2.0 DOHC.

 

Or 4-cylinder 90s Granadas in general.

 

I had a 1989 2.0 Ghia auto hatch from 1999 till 2003, did nearly 60k miles all over Scotland during my hillwalking days. Twink, but only an 8 valve, like a 60s Lotus Cortina or a 70s Fiat. Fuel injection. Chain driven cams.

Foot to the floor auto powershifts, balancing the car on left foot braking. I woz a driving god.

Good fun at the time. Spacious good handling under-rated cars. Actually better to drive than the Mk2, in the same way that a Sierra is better than a Mk5 Cortina. Nearly all gone now. I think rear-chassis-leg corrosion fucked a lot of them.

Banger racers too. Ahh, such is life.

[Guest Hooli]

I was thinking about XK8's today - following the well worn path of every Jaguar - full of problems if you want to take one of the 90's ones on, but if you can see it through the tough 'valueless' period (plenty around under £5k), then you're probably on to a long term winner.

I think XJRs are at the same point, fingers crossed. XKs will be worth more though as they become the 90s E-type.

[danthecapriman]

Granada Mk3 2.0 DOHC.

Or 4-cylinder 90s Granadas in general.

I had a 1989 2.0 Ghia auto hatch from 1999 till 2003, did nearly 60k miles all over Scotland during my hillwalking days. Twink, but only an 8 valve, like a 60s Lotus Cortina or a 70s Fiat. Fuel injection. Chain driven cams.

Foot to the floor auto powershifts, balancing the car on left foot braking. I woz a driving god.

Good fun at the time. Spacious good handling under-rated cars. Actually better to drive than the Mk2, in the same way that a Sierra is better than a Mk5 Cortina. Nearly all gone now. I think rear-chassis-leg corrosion fucked a lot of them.

Banger racers too. Ahh, such is life.

I very very nearly bought a J reg 2.8 ghia x saloon. It was absolutely stunning inside and out but was at a used car dealers and they wanted a fair bit for it. It would have been about 11/12 years old at the time and I just couldn’t scrape the pennies together.

I often wonder what happened to the old thing, one of the cars I really regret not buying! I’d most likely still have it now if I’d bought it.

Thinking about it, I’ve not seen a mk3 for ages. Even mk1 and 2 Granny’s must be more numerous nowadays as they’ve got a strong following.

[fordperv]

Granada Mk3 2.0 DOHC.

 

Or 4-cylinder 90s Granadas in general.

 

I had a 1989 2.0 Ghia auto hatch from 1999 till 2003, did nearly 60k miles all over Scotland during my hillwalking days. Twink, but only an 8 valve, like a 60s Lotus Cortina or a 70s Fiat. Fuel injection. Chain driven cams.

Foot to the floor auto powershifts, balancing the car on left foot braking. I woz a driving god.

Good fun at the time. Spacious good handling under-rated cars. Actually better to drive than the Mk2, in the same way that a Sierra is better than a Mk5 Cortina. Nearly all gone now. I think rear-chassis-leg corrosion fucked a lot of them.

Banger racers too. Ahh, such is life.

The twincam has bags of torque for it's capacity, other than rust good old hgf killed a lot of them when they were at the low point price wise due to cost of repair, also timing chain failures again down to cost

 

I think you will mostly find twincams now because everyone picked up the granada 24v and raped them of their engine

[SierraMikeHotel]

Mitsubishi Carisma. Give it another five years and we'll all be wanking ourselves senseless when someone unearths a saloon.

I loved my old Volvo S40 and you still see them everywhere, can't think when I last saw a Carisma though!

[Tadhg Tiogar]

Vauxhall Sintra?

 

Ssangyong Rodius?