Aaarrrggghhh FTP!!

[Mr A Lawrence]

Nipped out today.

 

This happened.

 

Then this happened.

 

Then this happened.

[srad34]

Arse biscuits

[SiC]

Andy the tyre man who can't change his tyre.

 

In all seriousness, that looks to be a bit of a gutter. What happens next? Hammer socket onto the duff wheel to get it changed? Then order a replacement key from Jaguar?

[omegod]

They make those sockets from a very rare type of cheese you know !

[beko1987]

That sucks, it shouldn't have been that way!

 

Their the worse kinds of ftp too, you have the part in your hand to fix it... And it breaks!

[richardthestag]

EEzee, u need 2 fone 

 

http://autoshite.com/topic/14243-ideas-welcomed-to-get-these-locking-wheel-nuts-off/?p=1125692

 

sorry about FTP but couldnt resist

[gordonbennet]

TBH thats a shit design of locker, those lug tapers couldn't have been designed to split the socket open better if they tried.

 

Mustardmitt the taper and thread on my lockers are always well lubed, fnarr fnarr and, they only get firmly nipped up not anywhere near as tight as the normal wheelbolts.

[Skizzer]

What is it with JLR and shit wheel bolts? It took half a day's swearing to get the front wheels off my Disco too.

 

I JUST WANT REGULAR BOLTS THAT UNDO WITH A SOCKET. It really shouldn't be that hard, should it?

[omegod]

Tyre fitters putting the lockers on with a windy gun is usually the problem, they should only be nipped up, then again Andy would know that 

[buckbuckbuckie]

I honestly haven't heard of anyone having their wheels nicked...

 

I have heard dozens of stories like this of monumental hassle and ball ache caused by locking wheel nuts though.

[Mr A Lawrence]

To be honest I've not had the wheels off the front in the 2 years I've owned the car so maybe they're stuck on and using the shit wheelbrace has ended them.

 

Where I used to work, if you were seen using an air gun on a locker, on or off it was a sacking offence.

[Bren]

When I was fitting the wheels to the vectra last week I did wonder why anybody uses locking nuts nowadays as wheel theft is'nt as common as it once was.

 

However, knowing the luck I have, if I did'nt refit them no doubt some theiving bastard would leave the car on railway sleepers.

[xtriple]

The wheels on the Bentley sell for over 2 grand a set! Well, I say sell, that's what Flying Spares advertise them for (second hand) and seem to get often enough. But it has a weird locking centre cap with two keys and you remove the first lock and there's another underneath it!  It also has left hand threaded wheel nuts on the lhs so I reckon when/if they get nicked I'll end up with two wheels left on that side as no bugger knows what a  left handed thread is anymore.

[twosmoke300]

I've just put 5 brand spankers wheels and Michelin tyres on my Landy and seriously thinking about locking nuts .

[Pillock]

You're probably more likely to get the wheels nicked for the tyres, they cost more! Set of original alloys for any mainstream car, perhaps £50. Set of new tyres is four times that min.

[cort1977]

Nicking wheels off full size trucks and suvs is still big business* here. Neighbours often wake up to a truck without its 22" alloys and tailgate. Wheel locks don't seem to help either, god knows how they do it.

[DVee8]

Andy these are the locking wheel nuts that came off my S-type.

 

 

A code runs around the lock key:-McGARD 4.664.000 or A66A.000.

[DVee8]

Nipped out today.

 

 

See above for the locking set that came from my Jag.

[Snipes]

They're not Genuine JLR. Must have been swapped over at some point.

[dome]

Andy, I might have a set of my old S-Type in the garage, if you want I can dig them out for you to see if they're any good?

[vaughant]

Andy these are the locking wheel nuts that came off my S-type.

 

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A code runs around the lock key:-McGARD 4.664.000 or A66A.000.

They are, or they certainly look like, ford locking wheel nuts I think (most likely as a lot of bits on the s-type are ford). They're exactly like the ones on my ka that have a little ford brochure with them.

 

I had a guy turn up at my garage once trying to get me to take the lockers off but despite being a nice bloke he slipped up and said he'd taken it to three other places who'd turned the work down plus he wanted no damage to the alloys.

 

I declined and asked another guy I knew if he wanted the work as he was always up for crappy jobs but even he said their a total nightmare.

 

That was an x-type though.

 

The gun is deffo the cause though, I ended up having to cut an alloy off my ML because of this very reason. It actually worked out cheaper to buy a 2nd hand wheel with OK tyre than any other method. Plus I'd wasted a whole day trying various high quality drills etc, hammering on smaller sockets, hammer and chisel, nothing would budge it.

 

After the wheel was removed I had visions of bad threads in the hub, needing re threading,massive Stilson wrench etc yet the stub came off finger tight and new wheel bolts screwed straight back in.

 

Proceeded to remove all other lockers and throw them away.

[Pillock]

Those ones with the wiggly line around are 100% identical to the ones on my old Mondeo. Ford deffo used them, although they won't have been made specifically for Ford by McGuard so I bet they hawked them around every manufacturer.

[NorthernMonkey]

They're also factory fit on Volvos....the dealers normally have a master key set to remove them. If I remember correctly, there's only around a dozen or so patterns.

[garbaldy]

I honestly haven't heard of anyone having their wheels nicked...

 

I have heard dozens of stories like this of monumental hassle and ball ache caused by locking wheel nuts though.

Neither have I but a quick look shows these so I guess it's still a problem.

[Richard]

I bet every one of these cars had locking bolts, like many security features they are a massive inconvenience to the lawful owners but a very minor inconvenience for scrotes.

[Snipes]

Those ones with the wiggly line around are 100% identical to the ones on my old Mondeo. Ford deffo used them, although they won't have been made specifically for Ford by McGuard so I bet they hawked them around every manufacturer.

Ford do use McGuard, as do several manufacturers but not JLR. I'm not counting X-Types which probably do now I think about it.

[messerschmitt owner]

Those ones with the wiggly line around are 100% identical to the ones on my old Mondeo. Ford deffo used them, although they won't have been made specifically for Ford by McGuard so I bet they hawked them around every manufacturer.

exactly the same as the ones on my Merc.

[colino]

The Jaguar nuts are absolutely shocking, just like the vast array of under designed/specified bits they use all over the cars.

 

Best fix (as even the ordinary nuts get water in between the chrome and the nut and are waiting to spite you on a cold and wet, windy night when you have a puncture) is to get them all off and replace them with better manufactured Toyota ones.  I'm pretty sure I was told when I got my first ones that they were off the Lexus, but a friend changed his a few months ago and the bag mentioned just about every Toyota you could think off, including the Aygo.

 

Difference is they are a 21mm head and you'll need to get a different wrench to sit in the boot, good news as you can launch that spindly, pressed metal tube that Jaguar supply with their prestige cars into the skip.

[Mr A Lawrence]

Andy these are the locking wheel nuts that came off my S-type.

 

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A code runs around the lock key:-McGARD 4.664.000 or A66A.000.

Their the wrong type, might be X type.

These are the S type er....type.

 

 

Thanks anyway.

[Mr A Lawrence]

Andy, I might have a set of my old S-Type in the garage, if you want I can dig them out for you to see if they're any good?

That'd be good.