Truck Shite

[Felly Magic]

Crap phonecam shot of Ward's of Robin Hood's Foden wrecker dragging out a stuck Optareshite loaftin that the driver (not me) had got wedged in a ditch. 

[willswitchengage]

Were Ivecoz ever sold in the States? This photo suggests so:

 

[FredTransit]

Were Ivecoz ever sold in the States? This photo suggests so:

 

the Cargo was sold in the US, saw em meself in the mid 90s. On the subject of Cargos, we now have 4, having bought a chassis cab so we can re cab the spec as it wasnt as good as originally though..... The parts one only cost £285 (no body on it) and was only out of T&T last month.

[scruff]

Get some pics up Fred! 

 

I actually saw a Cargo in the wild today and it was not only a non-horsebox but a friggin 3828 tractor unit     all signwritten up, I think "Rileys of Hartswell" and hauling a flat loaded with straw bales on the A61 just outside Chesterfield. 

[Skizzer]

Were Ivecoz ever sold in the States? This photo suggests so:

 

Yup.  Have another US Iveco photo from my Georgia trip last year:

[Split_Pin]

Get some pics up Fred!

 

I actually saw a Cargo in the wild today and it was not only a non-horsebox but a friggin 3828 tractor unit all signwritten up, I think "Rileys of Hartswell" and hauling a flat loaded with straw bales on the A61 just outside Chesterfield.

Holy crumbs a 3828, holy grail of TruckShite IMO. I always thought it slightly incongruous that a little Cargo could have a stonking great Cummins LT10 under the cab!

[jbz2079]

AllCargozurShite!

Rotten cabs, rotten/siezed brakes, shite engines, Lot's of parts are now unobtainium.

Like brake pipes, and wheel cylinders.

 

The Iveco/Ford Cargo was shite when new and has definatly not matured / Manured might be more apt.

Having had to repair and test loads of them for the horsey brigade, where they stand outside for four months unused then are dragged to

the garage for the yearly test.

 

I hate them, woulden't care if I never seen another.

[Split_Pin]

That's more to do with the lack of use is it not? Where I worked we also carried out servicing and repairs to other customers lorries and at the time we looked after about ten or so Cargos, mostly 08 types. 3 it 4 from the local slaughterhouse, a couple or so from the adjacent scaffolding firm and a few odd ones. Apart from the rusty cabs they were a joy to work in. They were simple to grease, everything was accessible and the chassis didn't rust. I still have a soft spot for them

[jbz2079]

I will agree that back in they day they were acceptable, but none of the above were Horseboxes.

Or horsebox living van combinations, where they thought it would be a great idea to fix the cab down then panel it all in.

 

Trying to change fuel filters from under the front wheel arch at the roadside in the rain was a highlight.

Or the Iveco one with the rotten injector pipes and the cab fixed down.

Or those old TK Bedfords, ever done a head gasket on one of those? Through those little flap doors at the back of the cab with the body box fitted

right up to the flaps.

[FredTransit]

try a mobile library! Coach built on a chassis cowl with only an engine hatch to get at stuff. Automotive gynaecology commercial style.

[Grundig]

Were Ivecoz ever sold in the States? This photo suggests so:

 

 

 

the Cargo was sold in the US, saw em meself in the mid 90s. On the subject of Cargos, we now have 4, having bought a chassis cab so we can re cab the spec as it wasnt as good as originally though..... The parts one only cost £285 (no body on it) and was only out of T&T last month.

 

I'm not sure those Ivecos are 'Cargo's' I think they were 'Zeta's'  Z-series or K-100  ??

[jbz2079]

That's the very term Fred, some of those Autobus Mercedes 0811 Minibuses are just the same.

Mercedes quoted £1500 plus parts to replace the turbo on an 0811, Guess who got the job!

 

I've actually seen bits of floor around the engines cut out and bolted back in just for access.

[Split_Pin]

I thought that it was impossible that trucks with tilt cabs could have them bolted down and built around without provision made for engine access within the cab! That's madness, how would you get the rocker cover off for example?

 

And the TK bedfords with the body going up to the doors, deleting the access flaps - also crazy. The Military MK 4x4 type has a removable floor panel for access I believe.

[Split_Pin]

Definetely Iveco Zetas which became TurboZetas when the Company started putting that word in front of everything in the 1980's.

 

Previously badged as Fiats. I had a Bburago model of one until recently.

[jbz2079]

The answer Ian is you jack it up take the front axel off and drop the engine downwards, complete and utter madness, I agree.

But there must be hundreds if not thousands of those Horsebox campers built like that.

[twosmoke300]

I too have had the pleasure * of working on a Ford cargo with a coach built horsebox body on it. Even getting to the brake fluid reservoirs is a mission due to the low skirts etc.

[willswitchengage]

To confuse things further, the DVLA super computer lists this as a Magirus Deutz!

 

[morris_ital_lover]

Iveco took over Magirus-Deutz back in the day and eventually rebadged them and put their engines in them... So I was told by a bloke who used to run a fleet of Magiruses back in the day, he switched to other manufacturers after his first experience of the Ivecos.

[tooSavvy]

...... my first overseas holiday in Spain, Mallorca, late in life - yes, don't ask - had me looking out the transfer coach windows at these FAB M-D tippers, open back loaders, laid up at the back of dusty builders acreage....

 

fab  , I took one look, along the bonnet and rusty stripes (with no rain...!!) and just thought.... why nothing like this hauling $hite out of Brit workings...

 

They looked so gruff... like a dog, that WILL bite yerr hand off.

 

 

 

Gr9

 

 

TS

[FredTransit]

To confuse things further, the DVLA super computer lists this as a Magirus Deutz!

 

bizarrely that looks like a 75F10 with that body on it.

[wuvvum]

The Zetas were originally a Magirus Deutz design, fitted with the brilliant M-D air-cooled diesel.  I think Zastava also produced a version under license - now that would be proper truckshite.

[Vin]

Air cooled Magirus Deutz were very popular in the 70s with UK operators, particularly in eight legger flavour on tipper work. Magirus Deutz, Unic and Fiat came together to form Iveco.

 

I remember as a kid that the 'Britains' cattle truck and council tipper I had were both Magirus...

[Vin]

The Zetas were originally a Magirus Deutz design, fitted with the brilliant M-D air-cooled diesel.  I think Zastava also produced a version under license - now that would be proper truckshite.

 

I always thought Zetas were originally OMs, then badged as Fiats and then Ivecos...

 

This is from one of the brochures I have - badged as a Fiat OM55 . There are also pics in some of the books I have of Fiat OM badged tippers and box vans on L & M plates...

 

 

 

 

Edit; This is a earlier OM example. Pretty sure these were available as RHD in the UK. Further Edit; I am wrong. Looking at my reference book the OM series arrived in the UK in 1973 when Fiat Commercial vehicles was set up. The OM55 was a 5.5 tonner and the OM75 was a 7.5 tonner...

 

[morris_ital_lover]

From what I was told the air cooled engines were incredibly reliable and very easy to fix if something went wrong... The guy who told me that though did make it onto the front cover of a Maggie catalogue though (which I'd love to see again but is unlikely as I've lost contact with him). Seeing as so few have been preserved I presume they all ended up being exported.

[wuvvum]

I always thought Zetas were originally OMs

 

You might be right actually. 

 

I almost bought a 7.5-tonne M-D beavertail a few years back (fell through as the bloke decided he wanted more money), and that was a mid-late '70s beast, so pre-Iveco but maybe not the earliest version of the design.

[Vin]

Apparently, Magirus Deutz had a production line in Winsford, Cheshire in the late sixties. There was a Peter Davies picture in one of the recent issues of C&VC of a pair of brand new D plate 1966 Magirus artics parked up in a layby somewhere near London...

 

Here are the other picture pages from the Fiat brochure I posted above...

 

OM75 (RBE 281M) is of Lincoln Caravan Transport

 

 

[Split_Pin]

There's an on board video on YouTube somewhere of a 619 T being driven by a frenetic Italian chap. Sounds ace.

[Vin]

What's that...the middle east you say...in a Guy Big J...Good luck with that... :?

 

 

[Tetleysmooth]

^^^^^^^^^^^

Bloody hell, look at that Guy in the picture.

 

I used to drive one of those back in the day.

[FredTransit]

still on British H plates. Did somebody back in 73 find it gone?